The Work 4-16

[Memnon]

Well ****...

Initially, I thought Jack or NKosi would be the starter back in February, then as Spring camp took place it seemed like Shirreffs or Rosier were the leaders.

I never believed in Rosier, I knew he simply didn't have the arm talent to be a starting QB at Miami & I still stand by that.

Then, all of the sudden Shirreffs became "the guy", so I honestly tried to convince myself that he could end up the QB, but the talk of him being just a game manager legit worried me, because I don't trust that can be enough to win tough road games if by chance you happen to get down by a score or two in the 1st half.

Now, it appears as though that a lot of what we were hearing coming from Spring could've just been misdirection.

One thing for certain is, Ima just trust my instincts on this one lol. Idk who the starter will be come September, but I know it better be someone who isn't afraid to make a big time throw down the field in crunch time, cause a simple checkdown artist isn't gonna win us the Coastal.

This new info of Shirreffs being propped up to keep the fans from imploding truly changes everything. I'm feeling vindicated right about now because I said it was going to be Jack all the way.

I know Chise, I know... Your sarcasm doesn't fall on deaf ears my friend.

Your point about Shirreffs is both correct & smart, I don't disagree with it, I just don't believe that we're guaranteed a 10 win season with him at the helm, nor do I necessarily believe that he gives us the best chance to win in a Win now season.

You're the Living Legend & you'll probably be proven right come Fall, I'm just saying I don't think it's impossible for Jack or Kosi to be the starter.

 

[CaliforniaCanes]

If our QB situation is as bad as yall are making it sound, than shouldn't we take a second QB in 2018?

We can easily stick with the 3 Wr we currently have and still have a deadly receiving corp.

Seems like we would be otherwise putting a lot of faith in Sitkowski (who is yet to have a productive year) and Perry.

 

[Brooklyndee]

why was Jack running with the 3rd team?

Because it's spring. Depth chart in the beginning of spring has nothing to do with production or thought on where they eventually play. Right has told yall that last year. Line up is based off of off season factors (academics,Matt drills,weight room,film study etc.) It's nothing but a feeling out process. Only different if we already had a set sterter.

Thats how the depth chart is usually set up in the first few practices. Spring is almost over and allison was still 3rd team. If dude is looking that good why wouldnt richt give him reps with a better unit to see what he can do?

Im not saying dee is right or wrong, but to be fair - Allison was only third til the first scrimmage, and got hurt during it.

I can see where off season effort solidifies your spot through the first scrimmage. Jack never got a chance to rebound after that.


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Come on, man. Mark fcking Rick ain't keeping a QB depth chart based on mat drills or to keep the fans from imploding.

The fans part was humor on my end chose. He has only addressed reporters stating evan is so far ahead once & he didn't support the statement at all. Far as the first couple weeks he's told yall last year he does that based upon off season conditions etc. Everyone does that in the first two weeks or so of practice. The number assigned to them had nothing to do with reps at all. It's been distributed among all contenders to give them a shot with each group to see who shines. You of all people should understand context when someone is a smart ***. Only reality to that statement is evan being the starter will cause the fan base to implode & he knows that. Evan is Frank Costa all over again. Malik is Kirby Freeman 2.0. No offense to them but if either is our starter it's gonna be a tough year & tells our fan base none of our qb is the answer.

 

[Dwinstitles]

[video=youtube;M3tCogsBHKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3tCogsBHKY[/video]

I'm just gonna post this because I hadn't seen Perry's junior highlights in a minute

did u binge this all night? long *** hilight vid

 

[Brooklyndee]

So Brooklyndee does Jack look like a difference maker? It's clear Evan and Malik don't in your opinion.

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In time yes. He has every God given tool. It's just a matter of adapting to the speed

 

[Brooklyndee]

@Brooklyndee is as legit as it gets.

My take on the QBs is that Perry will have a great shot to win the job. Nobody is running away with it. Shirreffs is inconsistent and doesn't drive the ball, Rosier doesn't have it and Jack (while the best passer by far) still doesn't process as fast as we need him to IMO. If Perry is the real deal, he will have an opportunity to be the guy.

The good news is we have a strong team, so none of the QBs will have to do too much.

Very good assessment my brother. You see I wasn't even trying to debate this one. I didn't even bother to correct them when it was said over & OVER that evan has so much experience because he ran our practice squad... lol. By the way guys, JACK ran our practice squad last year... justsayin.

The debate was over your statement that Jack Allison was head and shoulders above the rest and his snaps were being limited merely because of a pre spring depth chart. As if his play on the field would have no bearing on what the coaches would do in term of reps with the 1s in QB battle. It had nothing to do with Evan Shirreffs.

I'm sorry you feel that way but not once did that come out of my mouth. Actually I told yall his snaps weren't limited. The spot they each ran flopped every few days but snaps among those three has pretty evenly been distributed. All of yall kept pushing the third team thing & I said in reality that's now how spring is ran. I said the job is either jack or nkosi & I explained why I FELT that way... anotherwords it's an opinion that you all took issue with. Only fact I issued is jack has looked better than evan. Evan hasn't looked good... If it didn't come across that way my bad. Now I'm done with this. Dmoney just told yall & now it's a different issue so clearly I'm lost here.

No. Peter was telling everyone that. He felt so strongly about how far behind Allison was that he stated in an interview that Allison getting hurt in the scrimmage didn't mean all that much. Ariz said that he wasn't getting the same number of reps with the 1s as Rosier and Shirreffs. Your argument would be with him. Everyone is simply giving you what he gave us and WQAM.

Nah. I don't feel the need to argue about anything with Pete or otherwise. I didn't listen to any of the other stuff but what is being said I know wasn't true. Reps have been pretty even between those 3. Only ones singled out is vinny & cade. But as i said yall feel free to believe what yall want.

 

[Brooklyndee]

If our QB situation is as bad as yall are making it sound, than shouldn't we take a second QB in 2018?

We can easily stick with the 3 Wr we currently have and still have a deadly receiving corp.

Seems like we would be otherwise putting a lot of faith in Sitkowski (who is yet to have a productive year) and Perry.

I just said two days ago in another thread we were counting on casey thompson to pick us. He surprised us with texas. With that said i doubt we take another qb besides him. Our qb situation isnt that bad. We're just inexperienced. Adding another recruit to the position just muddles the reps moving forward.

 

[The Franchise]

Well ****...

Initially, I thought Jack or NKosi would be the starter back in February, then as Spring camp took place it seemed like Shirreffs or Rosier were the leaders.

I never believed in Rosier, I knew he simply didn't have the arm talent to be a starting QB at Miami & I still stand by that.

Then, all of the sudden Shirreffs became "the guy", so I honestly tried to convince myself that he could end up the QB, but the talk of him being just a game manager legit worried me, because I don't trust that can be enough to win tough road games if by chance you happen to get down by a score or two in the 1st half.

Now, it appears as though that a lot of what we were hearing coming from Spring could've just been misdirection.

One thing for certain is, Ima just trust my instincts on this one lol. Idk who the starter will be come September, but I know it better be someone who isn't afraid to make a big time throw down the field in crunch time, cause a simple checkdown artist isn't gonna win us the Coastal.

This new info of Shirreffs being propped up to keep the fans from imploding truly changes everything. I'm feeling vindicated right about now because I said it was going to be Jack all the way.

I know Chise, I know... Your sarcasm doesn't fall on deaf ears my friend.

Your point about Shirreffs is both correct & smart, I don't disagree with it, I just don't believe that we're guaranteed a 10 win season with him at the helm, nor do I necessarily believe that he gives us the best chance to win in a Win now season.

You're the Living Legend & you'll probably be proven right come Fall, I'm just saying I don't think it's impossible for Jack or Kosi to be the starter.

I'll say it again, friend. None of the QBs guarantees us anything. Fly in the ointment with Perry is that there's no way he's going to be comfortable running Rick's offense in a month of fall practice unless he's a total savant. I'd hate to see us rush him and set him back.

****, it used to be standard even in the NFL to sit 1st round QBs for a year or two and let them get comfortable before starting them. And they had unlimited practice time. Steve McNair sat for two years. The reason behind it was that they didn't want to rush a young QB because you could do unfixable long term damage to his confidence by throwing him out there before he was ready.

We'll see what happens. I actually hope you're right because that will mean that Perry is super smart and a savant. He's clearly a better talent than the guys we have. All I know is that the theory that Rick is giving Evan the most reps to keep the fans from imploding is clown ****. He's getting the reps because Rick thinks he's the best option right now. Of course, that can change in the blink of an eye. We shall see.

 

[gcane44]

[video=youtube;M3tCogsBHKY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3tCogsBHKY[/video]

I'm just gonna post this because I hadn't seen Perry's junior highlights in a minute

did u binge this all night? long *** hilight vid

That's what lunch is for, my man

 

[Suarez]

So Brooklyndee does Jack look like a difference maker? It's clear Evan and Malik don't in your opinion.

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In time yes. He has every God given tool. It's just a matter of adapting to the speed

The ability to adapt to the speed is also a God given tool... and at QB, possibly the most important.

 

[gcane44]

So Brooklyndee does Jack look like a difference maker? It's clear Evan and Malik don't in your opinion.

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In time yes. He has every God given tool. It's just a matter of adapting to the speed

My concern with Jack is that he has arm talent, but doesn't have a natural feel for the QB position. Do you think he's better in that regard than I'm giving him credit for or do you think that may play into his needing to "adapt to the speed"?

 

[umhurricane2511]

If our QB situation is as bad as yall are making it sound, than shouldn't we take a second QB in 2018?

We can easily stick with the 3 Wr we currently have and still have a deadly receiving corp.

Seems like we would be otherwise putting a lot of faith in Sitkowski (who is yet to have a productive year) and Perry.

I just said two days ago in another thread we were counting on casey thompson to pick us. He surprised us with texas. With that said i doubt we take another qb besides him. Our qb situation isnt that bad. We're just inexperienced. Adding another recruit to the position just muddles the reps moving forward.

This is pretty interesting. I had pretty much written him off.

Must be those locker rooms lol


In all seriousness though, didn't Richt have Art as his top QB for 2018?

 

[cooks002]

If we play baga in 2018 holy **** our roster will be stacked!!!

My projected starting lineup:

Qb:
Nkosi sr. or sitkowski jr.

Rb:
lorenzo lingard jr.

te:
Brevin jordan jr.

wr:

Boundary:
Mark Pope jr. brian hightower jr.

slot:
Jeff thomas sr. /Mike Harley sr.

Oline:
Lt: Kai leon herbert sr.
Lg: Cleveland Reed Jr.
C: Corey Gaynor Sr./ Delone Scaife Jr.
Rg:Corey Gaynor Sr./ Delone Scaife Jr.
Rt: Big vaughn? Sr./ Zhalonte Hillery sr.

D Line:

De:
Greg Rousseau jr.
Andrew Chatfield? Jr.

Dt:
Jamarcus chatman Jr./ Nesta silvera jr.
Jon ford sr.

Lb:

Olb:
Amari Gainer? jr./Jamien sherwood jr.
Bradley Jennings sr./ Deandre Wilder Sr.

Cb:
Boundary:
Al Blades Jr. Jr.
Tyson Campbell? Jr./ Dj Ivey
Nickel:
Trajan Bandy sr.

S:
SS:
Gurvan Hall Jr.
FS:
Josh Jobe Jr.

That would be a stacked class full of upperclassmen! The front 7 worries me a little but Diaz and Kool know what they r doing! Mama is gonna get wrecked!!!!!

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[Memnon]

Well ****...

Initially, I thought Jack or NKosi would be the starter back in February, then as Spring camp took place it seemed like Shirreffs or Rosier were the leaders.

I never believed in Rosier, I knew he simply didn't have the arm talent to be a starting QB at Miami & I still stand by that.

Then, all of the sudden Shirreffs became "the guy", so I honestly tried to convince myself that he could end up the QB, but the talk of him being just a game manager legit worried me, because I don't trust that can be enough to win tough road games if by chance you happen to get down by a score or two in the 1st half.

Now, it appears as though that a lot of what we were hearing coming from Spring could've just been misdirection.

One thing for certain is, Ima just trust my instincts on this one lol. Idk who the starter will be come September, but I know it better be someone who isn't afraid to make a big time throw down the field in crunch time, cause a simple checkdown artist isn't gonna win us the Coastal.

This new info of Shirreffs being propped up to keep the fans from imploding truly changes everything. I'm feeling vindicated right about now because I said it was going to be Jack all the way.

I know Chise, I know... Your sarcasm doesn't fall on deaf ears my friend.

Your point about Shirreffs is both correct & smart, I don't disagree with it, I just don't believe that we're guaranteed a 10 win season with him at the helm, nor do I necessarily believe that he gives us the best chance to win in a Win now season.

You're the Living Legend & you'll probably be proven right come Fall, I'm just saying I don't think it's impossible for Jack or Kosi to be the starter.

I'll say it again, friend. None of the QBs guarantees us anything. Fly in the ointment with Perry is that there's no way he's going to be comfortable running Rick's offense in a month of fall practice unless he's a total savant. I'd hate to see us rush him and set him back.

****, it used to be standard even in the NFL to sit 1st round QBs for a year or two and let them get comfortable before starting them. And they had unlimited practice time. Steve McNair sat for two years. The reason behind it was that they didn't want to rush a young QB because you could do unfixable long term damage to his confidence by throwing him out there before he was ready.

We'll see what happens. I actually hope you're right because that will mean that Perry is super smart and a savant. He's clearly a better talent than the guys we have. All I know is that the theory that Rick is giving Evan the most reps to keep the fans from imploding is clown ****. He's getting the reps because Rick thinks he's the best option right now. Of course, that can change in the blink of an eye. We shall see.

I agree with that 100%.

 

[JMG]

Silvera needs to realize he better stop slurping off UF and entertaining them or else we'll roll without him

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Because it's spring. Depth chart in the beginning of spring has nothing to do with production or thought on where they eventually play. Right has told yall that last year. Line up is based off of off season factors (academics,Matt drills,weight room,film study etc.) It's nothing but a feeling out process. Only different if we already had a set sterter.

Thats how the depth chart is usually set up in the first few practices. Spring is almost over and allison was still 3rd team. If dude is looking that good why wouldnt richt give him reps with a better unit to see what he can do?

Im not saying dee is right or wrong, but to be fair - Allison was only third til the first scrimmage, and got hurt during it.

I can see where off season effort solidifies your spot through the first scrimmage. Jack never got a chance to rebound after that.


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Come on, man. Mark fcking Rick ain't keeping a QB depth chart based on mat drills or to keep the fans from imploding.

The fans part was humor on my end chose. He has only addressed reporters stating evan is so far ahead once & he didn't support the statement at all. Far as the first couple weeks he's told yall last year he does that based upon off season conditions etc. Everyone does that in the first two weeks or so of practice. The number assigned to them had nothing to do with reps at all. It's been distributed among all contenders to give them a shot with each group to see who shines. You of all people should understand context when someone is a smart ***. Only reality to that statement is evan being the starter will cause the fan base to implode & he knows that. Evan is Frank Costa all over again. Malik is Kirby Freeman 2.0. No offense to them but if either is our starter it's gonna be a tough year & tells our fan base none of our qb is the answer.

Appreciate your insights, even though sometimes I don't necessarily see it your way.

This is one of those times.

There is no way that Rosier is anything close to Kirby. Not even close. He's only started one game, but that should be proof alone, all by itself.

 

[brock]

Silvera needs to realize he better stop slurping off UF and entertaining them or else we'll roll without him

He's locked in with miami

 

[FyreHam]

If our QB situation is as bad as yall are making it sound, than shouldn't we take a second QB in 2018?

We can easily stick with the 3 Wr we currently have and still have a deadly receiving corp.

Seems like we would be otherwise putting a lot of faith in Sitkowski (who is yet to have a productive year) and Perry.

I just said two days ago in another thread we were counting on casey thompson to pick us. He surprised us with texas. With that said i doubt we take another qb besides him. Our qb situation isnt that bad. We're just inexperienced. Adding another recruit to the position just muddles the reps moving forward.

Wait, so the intention was two QB's in this class?

 

[RedSquare]

If our QB situation is as bad as yall are making it sound, than shouldn't we take a second QB in 2018?

We can easily stick with the 3 Wr we currently have and still have a deadly receiving corp.

Seems like we would be otherwise putting a lot of faith in Sitkowski (who is yet to have a productive year) and Perry.

I just said two days ago in another thread we were counting on casey thompson to pick us. He surprised us with texas. With that said i doubt we take another qb besides him. Our qb situation isnt that bad. We're just inexperienced. Adding another recruit to the position just muddles the reps moving forward.

Wait, so the intention was two QB's in this class?

no. once sitkowski was locked, our QB class was done

 

[Brooklyndee]

Well ****...

Initially, I thought Jack or NKosi would be the starter back in February, then as Spring camp took place it seemed like Shirreffs or Rosier were the leaders.

I never believed in Rosier, I knew he simply didn't have the arm talent to be a starting QB at Miami & I still stand by that.

Then, all of the sudden Shirreffs became "the guy", so I honestly tried to convince myself that he could end up the QB, but the talk of him being just a game manager legit worried me, because I don't trust that can be enough to win tough road games if by chance you happen to get down by a score or two in the 1st half.

Now, it appears as though that a lot of what we were hearing coming from Spring could've just been misdirection.

One thing for certain is, Ima just trust my instincts on this one lol. Idk who the starter will be come September, but I know it better be someone who isn't afraid to make a big time throw down the field in crunch time, cause a simple checkdown artist isn't gonna win us the Coastal.

This new info of Shirreffs being propped up to keep the fans from imploding truly changes everything. I'm feeling vindicated right about now because I said it was going to be Jack all the way.

I know Chise, I know... Your sarcasm doesn't fall on deaf ears my friend.

Your point about Shirreffs is both correct & smart, I don't disagree with it, I just don't believe that we're guaranteed a 10 win season with him at the helm, nor do I necessarily believe that he gives us the best chance to win in a Win now season.

You're the Living Legend & you'll probably be proven right come Fall, I'm just saying I don't think it's impossible for Jack or Kosi to be the starter.

I'll say it again, friend. None of the QBs guarantees us anything. Fly in the ointment with Perry is that there's no way he's going to be comfortable running Rick's offense in a month of fall practice unless he's a total savant. I'd hate to see us rush him and set him back.

****, it used to be standard even in the NFL to sit 1st round QBs for a year or two and let them get comfortable before starting them. And they had unlimited practice time. Steve McNair sat for two years. The reason behind it was that they didn't want to rush a young QB because you could do unfixable long term damage to his confidence by throwing him out there before he was ready.

We'll see what happens. I actually hope you're right because that will mean that Perry is super smart and a savant. He's clearly a better talent than the guys we have. All I know is that the theory that Rick is giving Evan the most reps to keep the fans from imploding is clown ****. He's getting the reps because Rick thinks he's the best option right now. Of course, that can change in the blink of an eye. We shall see.