The Work 1-15

[Meat]

It's not a good sign if at the end of this cycle Rumph is at least 0-4 in trying to his former CB's to play for him.

That's awful.

If Rumph doesn't land AT LEAST Campbell, he's simply gotta go. If we have to fly a banner then so be it.

 

[RealDBC13]

all the tough guys from the other campbell threads can finally get it now

Nah, they still think we are getting Campbell and Surtain. Same fools who believed that Jobe was trolling Bama.

 

[88]

Rattler has as much of a clue as anyone else.

 

[TriStarCane]

It's not a good sign Rumph if at the end of this cycle Rumph is at least 0-4 in trying to his former CB's to play for him.

That's awful.

It's worse than that. This was our best year in a decade. We had a national ****ing craze created with the turnover chaing. THE **** TURNOVER CHAIN!! And he can't ride this momentum to close on anyone? Not even his former players? **** is worse than I even thought. We are going to go 0-4 on the top guys from South Florida and it looks like the 2 he was closest to won't even consider us for an OV.

He did close on 2 very good CB prospects. Just not his former players. Gotta stay accurate here.

I'm not saying they aren't very good, but we are talking about missing on 4 of the best DBs in the nation from down the street in a year where we need help. Neither of those guys are approaching the quality of prospect we missed on. That doesn't mean they won't be good, but don't kid yourself either. Consolation prizes in recruitment don't win championships.

 

[TheSwagger1]

who is this upgrade we're getting at DB coach in terms of recruiting?

Go to a coaching clinic and start throwing darts blindfolded.

 

[Rellyrell]

Rattler, listen to their advice and stay away. Things will be said about TC that you don’t need to see.

No one will say anything about TC. If anything this is on Rumph. He wasn’t just hired b/c of his coaching abilities; he was specifically hired for this moment. We’ve been pegging the AH DBs for a couple of years now, and ur trying to tell me we couldn’t snag at least TC who he basically taught the game to? I mean, it’s not over til it’s over, but wow if all of this is 100.

 

[CANE1775]

I knew it was over when D$ started the thread about Al Blades. LOL

 

[SCarolina Ibis]

We have to optimize our coaching staff. We don't have any original ideas on offense despite having a HC/OC & RB/OC, along with a QB coach like Jon Richt... we have 2 guys taking up one position spot in the secondary and one of them can't land a kid who called him his f'ing mentor. Kul apparently likes recruiting about as much as cornerbacks love Mike Rumph. We might have had some of the worst special teams play in the country.

Catching up to the Alabamas and Clemsons of the world isn't going to be easy, Richt isn't doing himself any favors with this many holes in the staff. Find an Xs and Os guy on offense and find someone who can recruit worth a **** on defense.

im ALL for this. Dont worry we will have the Richt brigade attack us. But dude screwed himself with some of his grabs on the staff. Its like he got a big pull on a guy (kul) and would follow it up with let me pay for a CB coach out of hs...(essentially should be given to a ga or something). We have a rb coach with an oc title that doesnt even wear a headset...and the son at qb coach. If YOU want to coach QBS again....You do it. Dont waste a staff spot with nepotism. Essentially when the rest of your offensive staff is green.

Exactly. People will try to defend it with "he got us Perry and Williams". Recruiting is not the only side to coaching (as Rumph is finding out). Have to be able to coach. At no point have I thought "Rosier needs work, good thing Jon Richt is there to help him". If Mark Richt is coaching quarterbacks, why does his son need the title of QB coach?

 

[LuCane]

"I will not take no for an answer" - Tyson Campbell's former head coach and alleged mentor.

Un-f'ing-believable

Asante, Surtain, Jobe, Campbell, leave South Florida while we turn to Nigel Bethel.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Wilson (another kid he knew forever), CJ Henderson, Brian Edwards...off the top of my head.

Swags hes been a failure recruiting almost at epic levels. Coaching at a position where YOU HAVE to be a great recruiter. Good guy, but man if he doesnt land Campbell. He is new orleans safety level from yesterday...like he shouldnt even show up for signing day at the office.

What recruit has an issue with Wilson?

We need to secure that trio of DTs. Extremely important.

 

[Guwop]

Awe man I still got faith in Rumph but nothing you can do if a kid wants to attend college out of state. But I do wonder why Rumph couldn’t land any of the Heritage DBs.

 

[AK_Cane]

Lol watch the flop

 

[Zbrod95]

Coaching wise Rumph is great...but 10th guy absolutely needs to be a guy to help him recruit until he gets his resume up. Kul is saving the DL based off of rep, not recruiting ability.

 

[canesthing3]

Sucks about Campbell. Great news on the rest though. We should focus on the kids that want to be Canes, this is going to be a **** of a class. But y'all are going to let 1 player decide the class? Makes no sense. Even the mods are ****ting on the staff. Comparing them to recent staffs which is one of the dumbest things I've ever seen. We have an elite class, just won 10 games and the Coastal but things are really staying the same around here huh? Jesus. When you have multiple "mods" that only post negative ****, well it's easy to see why things get out of control on here.

 

[caneaddict]

Kirby Smart to Coach Richt

[video=youtube;bvRc7pwnt0U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvRc7pwnt0U[/video]

lol with 1 guy, how about the rest of the clean up job weve done

 

[wushah]

Been following Miami recruiting for over 20 years dating back to the Grassy days.

Just some observations:

1. The longer a SoFla recruit goes without committing to Miami, the worse the outcome generally is. Pro-Miami kids who get recruited early and aggressively by Miami generally come. It’s rare that we see otherwise. Exceptions like Sony Michel come to mind, but the statement generally holds true.

As it relates to this cycle, We probably dropped the ball on Samuels. I don’t know if we were really ever in it for Surtain or Campbell. Richt did an admirable job in year 2, our defense was the best we’ve seen in years, the program was being talked about all over the media for much of the season, and we were cool even on social media. Yet we still lost 2 great CBs.

Anytime we lose a recruit from our backyard, it’s a tough loss. I’m just not convinced it equates to termination of staff. That’s not how the real world works. What needs to happen is an investigation by Richt, Diaz, Kul, and Rumph, as to why these guys were lost. Speculation isn’t that impressive in these kinds of threads because the accuracy rate has historically been low.

2. As for Rumph, I think the jury is still out. Can he develop elite, NFL-worthy, DBs? A bit too early to tell, but the product so far has been encouraging to me. I’d much rather have elite coaches than elite recruiters. I’ve felt that way for years. If Rumph can develop guys like Frierson and Bethel, as examples, into real talents, the next batch of Surtains and Campbells are statistically more likely to come. Generally speaking, I don’t think there’s a massive difference between 4 and 5* 17-18 year old kids. Coaching, scheme, and a player’s determination to be great will factor far more heavily than just their physical tools.

3. As far as Bethel, this is a kid whose athleticism jumps out. With the proper coaching, scheme, and hustle, this kid can be great. He has the tools.

4. All in all, a couple of tough recruiting losses, but a good recruiting campaign. If we can close in on our recruits in the trenches, odds are that 3-4 years from now we’ll look back at this class as successful one.

 

[DerekDohrman]

ill be happy with this class if it finishes as pete expects. more than enough talent to win the ACC with.

always and should be better...but im not going to bytch too much if we land all those other kids.

 

[SA Cane]

So all of us that said Campbell was not coming to Miami are vaginas trolls soft shouldered???

It is called experience and being in this game for 25 years. Easy call on Campbell.

Let’s tackle the real issue since these coaches are in a production business.

Recruiting by position

QB Very Good
RB Elite
WR Elite
TE Elite
OL Very Good Elite after 2019
DL Good but Coach is Elite
LB Very Good
DB Below average

So Richt needs to solve this problem and find himself a Dugans type to coach DBs


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[KrazyCane]

I would take both Campbell and Bethel if they both wanted in. But if we just get Nigel Bethel it's still an A+ DB class, even though it will suck not getting TC.

Overall closing with the rest of our remaining top targets to go with the ones already signed... would make it the best recruiting class Miami has ever had, so Id be more excited about that then bxtchn over losing Campbell.

No it’s not. It’s a good class but not a A+

Hall, Frierson, Ivey, and Blades are 4 elite dbs in one class... with Bethel being a nice addition as well. A+ is debatable but I would still give the group an A grade.

 

[Southcane]

Rumph could be a good secondary coach but he is not a good recruiter. After last year recruiting class was in, I remember reading in one of his interviews him admitting he needs to change some of the ways he was recruiting kids. I guess he hasn't made positive change yet.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Rumph is terrible lol he had this kid since he was a spermcell and cant pull him? Im guessing now we will have kids flipping to uga and bama toward the end of next cycle now