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stormsurge13 said:
Up 21-0 and gashing them in the run game. Didn’t see Martinez or Fletcher run the rest of the half
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Yeah that's what kills me about this game. When we got the ball back 21-7 we needed to feed #6 till he collapsed. We got lucky Gadsen lined up wrong on 1st drive, and with how easy they had just scored we needed to eat clock and try to get to the half up 2-3 scores.

Lyle will be awesome but in non-garbage time ACC play he has like 7 carries for 10 yards. Big crime to only get #6 10 carries in this game.
 
FL Cane said:
I said before this game that this was the most important Hurricanes football game in 22 years. With an OSU loss today, a Miami win would've clinched an ACC Championship Game and CFP Berth. No more. Here's where things stand today, emotions aside:
  • This is - without a doubt - the worst Miami loss of the Mario Cristobal Era. Miami needed to find a way to win this game and they absolutely blew it.
  • Miami started the game hot with a 21-0 lead, and followed up an elite 1Q by giving up a 42-17 run to Syracuse. Inexcusable and honestly, unforgivable.
  • Mario Cristobal has a choice to make at the end of this season regarding his defensive staff. It's an easy one: Mario should dismiss the the entire defensive staff, top to bottom. He needs to hire a proven DC and let that DC build his staff from the bottom up.
  • Lance Guidry is one of the worst defensive coordinators in Miami Hurricanes History. He is huge reason why Miami may have wasted a Heisman level QB in Cam Ward.
  • Shannon Dawson has zero feel for the game. Our offense went into a shell which gave Syracuse the opportunity to get back into the game. Whenever something is working, he flips the switch and goes away from what's proven to work.
  • Again, there is ZERO reason that any team should be able to come back down 21-0 against the best offense in the country.
  • We continue to make back breaking mistakes in the form of (1) penalties or (2) turnovers. It's been a problem the entire Mario era, and there's no sign it'll stop anytime soon. We, unfortunately, have some shortsighted and emotional players.
  • There's been a common refrain with Mario over his career: elite recruiter, but a subpar gameday coach that'll cost a team 1-3 games a year. The buck stops with Mario as HC, though he's not the primary reason for today's loss. One massive mistake though was his choice to kick the FG. We needed to go for it there; at worst we back them up.
  • This season feels much like the end of the 2017 season: a disappointing end that derailed a potentially special season. 10 wins is "progress" for the program, but with a Heisman QB and the #1 team in the country, the result is disappointing regardless.
  • Miami - amazingly - still has a path to the CFP. With losses to a 7-5 and 9-3 team, and a margin of loss of 4 and 5 points, there's an argument to be made that we are better than any of the 9-3 SEC teams. Alabama and Ole Miss have far worse losses than us. Texas hasn't beat anyone. And if Texas losses tonight and A&M losses in the SEC championship, there's a shot. Boise could also lose in its conference championship game. OSU losing also throws a wrench into seeding Nevertheless, this team doesn't deserve it.
  • The goal now is two-fold: hope for a CFP miracle, and if not, hope for a bowl win (which we haven't done in 8-years). 11-2 is progress that can be sold to recruits, as disappointing as today was.
Ultimately, this season - even if it really ended today - was "progress." However, the progress was shallow and well under expectations. We hit the bare minimum, and we did not over perform. To ever be close to elite, Miami has to consistently beat the teams they're expected to beat. We're not at that level yet - and the honest truth is - we may never be under Mario Cristobal. Mario reminds me a lot of Ed Orgeron. He's a coach that will only win with the right mix of elite talent and above average coaches.
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And we need a ******* real special teams coach
 
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Great writeup as always BUT...

The issue with Mario is his hands off approach to coordinators.

The new DC can't just be allowed to hire whoever he wants in theory.

There has to be involved supervision from the head coach.

Another guy who has no fear of accountability will yield the same poor results.

Coaches have to be reigned in and kept on track. Unfortunately, Mario isn't the guy to do that.
 
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OldhamA said:
Honestly it doesn't even hurt.

Winning was unsustainable with that D - they didn't improve a lick all season. It was a ticking timebomb. I was very much prepared for a big let down loss today, especially one FSU handed everyone the blueprint on how to slow down our O.
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10 wins against our powderpuff schedule was no great accomplishment. In most of those wins, we struggled badly stopping very average offenses.
 
kyle_schick said:
Great writeup as always BUT...

The issue with Mario is his hands off approach to coordinators.

The new DC can't just be allowed to hire whoever he wants in theory.

There has to be involved supervision from the head coach.

Another guy who has no fear of accountability will yield the same poor results.

Coaches have to be reigned in and kept on track. Unfortunately, Mario isn't the guy to do that.
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Realistically he needs to tarmac Guidry and his coaches tonight.

He won't obviously.
 
Ohio state: 10-2 with losses @ Oregon & Vs Michigan (lost to top 5 opponent + a 6 win team)

Alabama: 9-3 with losses @Vandy/Tennessee/Oklahoma (2 6 win teams + a top 10 loss)

Miami: 10-2 with losses @ GT/Syracuse (both unranked)

South Carolina: 9-3 with losses Vs Alabama/LSU & @Ole Miss
(1 Unranked + 2 top 20 Losses)

Indiana: 11-1 with a loss to their only top 50 team they’ve played by 22

Going to need: Boise to keep winning, SMU to win, Texas A&M to win then lose to UGA
 
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hotshot said:
10 wins against our powderpuff schedule was no great accomplishment. In most of those wins, we struggled badly stopping very average offenses.
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We're repeatedly told the ACC is awful - so why can't we win 10 games against our powderpuff schedule every year?
 
FL Cane said:
I said before this game that this was the most important Hurricanes football game in 22 years. With an OSU loss today, a Miami win would've clinched an ACC Championship Game and CFP Berth. No more. Here's where things stand today, emotions aside:
  • This is - without a doubt - the worst Miami loss of the Mario Cristobal Era. Miami needed to find a way to win this game and they absolutely blew it.
  • Miami started the game hot with a 21-0 lead, and followed up an elite 1Q by giving up a 42-17 run to Syracuse. Inexcusable and honestly, unforgivable.
  • Mario Cristobal has a choice to make at the end of this season regarding his defensive staff. It's an easy one: Mario should dismiss the the entire defensive staff, top to bottom. He needs to hire a proven DC and let that DC build his staff from the bottom up.
  • Lance Guidry is one of the worst defensive coordinators in Miami Hurricanes History. He is huge reason why Miami may have wasted a Heisman level QB in Cam Ward.
  • Shannon Dawson has zero feel for the game. Our offense went into a shell which gave Syracuse the opportunity to get back into the game. Whenever something is working, he flips the switch and goes away from what's proven to work.
  • Again, there is ZERO reason that any team should be able to come back down 21-0 against the best offense in the country.
  • We continue to make back breaking mistakes in the form of (1) penalties or (2) turnovers. It's been a problem the entire Mario era, and there's no sign it'll stop anytime soon. We, unfortunately, have some shortsighted and emotional players.
  • There's been a common refrain with Mario over his career: elite recruiter, but a subpar gameday coach that'll cost a team 1-3 games a year. The buck stops with Mario as HC, though he's not the primary reason for today's loss. One massive mistake though was his choice to kick the FG. We needed to go for it there; at worst we back them up.
  • This season feels much like the end of the 2017 season: a disappointing end that derailed a potentially special season. 10 wins is "progress" for the program, but with a Heisman QB and the #1 team in the country, the result is disappointing regardless.
  • Miami - amazingly - still has a path to the CFP. With losses to a 7-5 and 9-3 team, and a margin of loss of 4 and 5 points, there's an argument to be made that we are better than any of the 9-3 SEC teams. Alabama and Ole Miss have far worse losses than us. Texas hasn't beat anyone. And if Texas losses tonight and A&M losses in the SEC championship, there's a shot. Boise could also lose in its conference championship game. OSU losing also throws a wrench into seeding Nevertheless, this team doesn't deserve it.
  • The goal now is two-fold: hope for a CFP miracle, and if not, hope for a bowl win (which we haven't done in 8-years). 11-2 is progress that can be sold to recruits, as disappointing as today was.
Ultimately, this season - even if it really ended today - was "progress." However, the progress was shallow and well under expectations. We hit the bare minimum, and we did not over perform. To ever be close to elite, Miami has to consistently beat the teams they're expected to beat. We're not at that level yet - and the honest truth is - we may never be under Mario Cristobal. Mario reminds me a lot of Ed Orgeron. He's a coach that will only win with the right mix of elite talent and above average coaches.
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I disagree wholeheartedly that this season was "progress." Wake up. This was Golden in 2013; Richt in 2017; and Diaz in 2020. Do you know what happened the following seasons after these so called "progress seasons?" You must be new here.
 
OldhamA said:
He's just fielded the #1 O in the country.

If he can't finagle that into a HC job somewhere he has less rizz than I do.
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I mean its college football...theres more to it than that. Look at what lsu did on offense last year and mike denbrock didn't get a head coaching gig. I'm not even sure if he got a interview
 
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FL Cane said:
I said before this game that this was the most important Hurricanes football game in 22 years. With an OSU loss today, a Miami win would've clinched an ACC Championship Game and CFP Berth. No more. Here's where things stand today, emotions aside:
  • This is - without a doubt - the worst Miami loss of the Mario Cristobal Era. Miami needed to find a way to win this game and they absolutely blew it.
  • Miami started the game hot with a 21-0 lead, and followed up an elite 1Q by giving up a 42-17 run to Syracuse. Inexcusable and honestly, unforgivable.
  • Mario Cristobal has a choice to make at the end of this season regarding his defensive staff. It's an easy one: Mario should dismiss the the entire defensive staff, top to bottom. He needs to hire a proven DC and let that DC build his staff from the bottom up.
  • Lance Guidry is one of the worst defensive coordinators in Miami Hurricanes History. He is huge reason why Miami may have wasted a Heisman level QB in Cam Ward.
  • Shannon Dawson has zero feel for the game. Our offense went into a shell which gave Syracuse the opportunity to get back into the game. Whenever something is working, he flips the switch and goes away from what's proven to work.
  • Again, there is ZERO reason that any team should be able to come back down 21-0 against the best offense in the country.
  • We continue to make back breaking mistakes in the form of (1) penalties or (2) turnovers. It's been a problem the entire Mario era, and there's no sign it'll stop anytime soon. We, unfortunately, have some shortsighted and emotional players.
  • There's been a common refrain with Mario over his career: elite recruiter, but a subpar gameday coach that'll cost a team 1-3 games a year. The buck stops with Mario as HC, though he's not the primary reason for today's loss. One massive mistake though was his choice to kick the FG. We needed to go for it there; at worst we back them up.
  • This season feels much like the end of the 2017 season: a disappointing end that derailed a potentially special season. 10 wins is "progress" for the program, but with a Heisman QB and the #1 team in the country, the result is disappointing regardless.
  • Miami - amazingly - still has a path to the CFP. With losses to a 7-5 and 9-3 team, and a margin of loss of 4 and 5 points, there's an argument to be made that we are better than any of the 9-3 SEC teams. Alabama and Ole Miss have far worse losses than us. Texas hasn't beat anyone. And if Texas losses tonight and A&M losses in the SEC championship, there's a shot. Boise could also lose in its conference championship game. OSU losing also throws a wrench into seeding Nevertheless, this team doesn't deserve it.
  • The goal now is two-fold: hope for a CFP miracle, and if not, hope for a bowl win (which we haven't done in 8-years). 11-2 is progress that can be sold to recruits, as disappointing as today was.
Ultimately, this season - even if it really ended today - was "progress." However, the progress was shallow and well under expectations. We hit the bare minimum, and we did not over perform. To ever be close to elite, Miami has to consistently beat the teams they're expected to beat. We're not at that level yet - and the honest truth is - we may never be under Mario Cristobal. Mario reminds me a lot of Ed Orgeron. He's a coach that will only win with the right mix of elite talent and above average coaches.
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Just stop with the ‘theres still a path’ bs. Yeah and we are riding a bike down it with square wheels and explosive diarrhea. We aren’t doing squat with any path laid before us.
 
stormsurge13 said:
Up 21-0 and gashing them in the run game. Didn’t see Martinez or Fletcher run the rest of the half
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We ran. Right into a wall.and the WRs which are great really lapsed. It’s happened a lot this season when either cam gets wild or the WRs stop catching balls inexplicably and tonight it was the WRs got stone hands several times. Dawson is far from perfect but we ran it but got nothing during that punt parade
 
After that defensive display tonight, would you vote for us if you were on the committee? That Q could pick his target anytime it was a passing down. Our corners or LBs couldn't run with their receivers or backs.
 
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