The Past Decade: Revealed

[Brian Piccolo]

when posters do bring facts you brush them under the rug

No. I address them.

Most of the time the facts I provide are completely ignored by emotional ninnies like yourself.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

See now i never said that, dont be putting words in my mouth

This is what you said.

we went to omaha these last 2 season and have been embarrassed by teams, especially last years team with all that offense and we were silent, morris needs to go

So Morris needs to go because of 4 games in Omaha played over 2 seasons.

That's what you said and that's what I quoted you as saying.

I know that you're probably realizing how stupid that was but it doesn't mean you didn't say it.

 

[BWCD]

So Morris needs to go because of 4 games in Omaha played over 2 seasons.

Let's dive a little deeper into this company line...

Are you saying that these games in Omaha are not any more important than say an opening series in February against Buttgers? Because that continued claim you're making about "4 games in Omaha over 2 seasons" tends to imply that pretty heavily. You're basically dismissing the importance of games in Omaha, and you're just "happy to get there". Pretty disingenuous on your part if that's the case.

 

[NJshoreCane]

We will likely do the same next year. We will grind our way through Pittsburgh and Duke and Georgia Tech and we will win a lot of games and everyone will be impressed.

Except from 2009-2013 we weren't even doing that.

And you were predicting that we'd lose all the time during the regular season.

So as usual regular season results are really important when we're losing but completely dismissed when we start winning.

We showed in Omaha exactly what kind of team we are. Don't blame me that our schedule was full of other lightweights. "But our SOS......". Yeah, no one cares about that or relies on it.

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[imurcane]

The positive we can take away is that #3 wins a lot of regular season games. We can only beat who we play!

But to suggest getting to Omaha is enough, is the talk from losers.

 

[cane since birth]

See now i never said that, dont be putting words in my mouth

This is what you said.

we went to omaha these last 2 season and have been embarrassed by teams, especially last years team with all that offense and we were silent, morris needs to go

So Morris needs to go because of 4 games in Omaha played over 2 seasons.

That's what you said and that's what I quoted you as saying.

I know that you're probably realizing how stupid that was but it doesn't mean you didn't say it.

Now did i say that it was my one and only reason why i want him gone? See now you are just assuming stuff

 

[cane since birth]

Its ok brian you are trying to grasp at straws here trying to seem like we are all wrong and you are the one tell all baseball guru abd morris needs to stay but thats all you are doing is grasping and hoping something sticks and makes sense but at the end of the day we havent done jack with takented teams with morris

 

[Brian Piccolo]

But to suggest getting to Omaha is enough, is the talk from losers.

What we're saying is that to expect more than just getting to Omaha is to not understand the nature of the tournament.

To go into a season expecting a national championship or even a finals appearance is basically to expect to be lucky.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

But to suggest getting to Omaha is enough, is the talk from losers.

Says the guy who would rather suck than be good without winning championships.

I laugh at people like you who think that their unreasonable and whiny standards somehow make them a 'winner' and anybody who is reasonable is a loser.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Are you saying that these games in Omaha are not any more important than say an opening series in February against Buttgers?

No. Of course not.

What I'm saying is that there are more variables in baseball than any other sport. The game is colder and more probabilistic too. You can't 'play harder' in bigger games. In fact many times in baseball 'playing harder' is a detriment.

In any one game (or tournament) a manager can only choose his pitcher and set his lineup. Pretty much everything else is beholden to those variables.

If you think Michael Mediavilla's performance in Omaha was a coaching or managing issue then you're just delusional.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Because that continued claim you're making about "4 games in Omaha over 2 seasons" tends to imply that pretty heavily.

Well you'll have to explain that to me because I don't see it.

One game might be more important than the other but the variables are still somewhat unpredictable and any advantage gained in the regular season is removed in Omaha.

So for instance if Thomas Woodrey had that outing you wouldn't be surprised since he was bad in 2016. But if you throw the (mostly) reliable Michael Mediavilla out there and he does the same then what? You blame the coaching?

I think it's just a predisposition. Some people just fall back on their instinct to blame coaching. Its just what they do.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

You're basically dismissing the importance of games in Omaha, and you're just "happy to get there". Pretty disingenuous on your part if that's the case.

The 'happy to be there' lie has been repeated over and over. It's no less of a lie now then it was the first 10 times.

I'm simply saying that expectations should be no higher than getting to Omaha. The results once there have proven to be (over and over) a crap-shoot.

If your standard is Final 4 or Championship Series you're basically demanding that Jim Morris be lucky.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Now did i say that it was my one and only reason why i want him gone? See now you are just assuming stuff

I'm forced to assume that because, well, that's all you said.

I would be assuming if I thought otherwise.

 

[cane since birth]

Now did i say that it was my one and only reason why i want him gone? See now you are just assuming stuff

I'm forced to assume that because, well, that's all you said.

I would be assuming if I thought otherwise.

Stop assuming, assumptions are the mother of all **** ups

 

[cane since birth]

Its realistic expectations when you go two straight years and hoping to do better than the first that is normal and the right expectations

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Stop assuming, assumptions are the mother of all **** ups

Once again if I didn't take you word for it then I'd be assuming.

So unless you post something explicitly I can't assume.

 

[Brian Piccolo]

Its realistic expectations when you go two straight years and hoping to do better than the first that is normal and the right expectations

I don't even know if this is English.

 

[cane since birth]

Its realistic expectations when you go two straight years and hoping to do better than the first that is normal and the right expectations

I don't even know if this is English.

Well since you have low expectations every year i doubt you would understand it

 

[cane since birth]

Stop assuming, assumptions are the mother of all **** ups

Once again if I didn't take you word for it then I'd be assuming.

So unless you post something explicitly I can't assume.

Learn your lesson and stop assuming

 

[BWCD]

Are you saying that these games in Omaha are not any more important than say an opening series in February against Buttgers?

No. Of course not.

What I'm saying is that there are more variables in baseball than any other sport. The game is colder and more probabilistic too. You can't 'play harder' in bigger games. In fact many times in baseball 'playing harder' is a detriment.

In any one game (or tournament) a manager can only choose his pitcher and set his lineup. Pretty much everything else is beholden to those variables.

Seems to me that all of that is up to the manager to attempt to control/minimize as many of those variables as possible, try to work them to his advantage, even if it means doing something unorthodox. Morris does a great job of it in the regular season for the most part. Not so much in Omaha. That's not an irrational knock on him, it's simply a trend that's observable.

But still...you do realize how it sounds to the rest of us when you keep repeating that we're upset about "only/just" 4 games in Omaha in 2 seasons. It makes it seem like you're dismissing bigger games as being just as important as the regular ones.

Also - it's on the manager to manage the mindset of the team. If you know your guys are pressing too hard - do something to loosen them up. If they're too loose - smack them up side the head and tell them to focus. Those things are within the manager's purview.

If you think Michael Mediavilla's performance in Omaha was a coaching or managing issue then you're just delusional.

I don't think anyone's said that in the history of ever. Mediavilla's outing was pure butterflies, and just an implosion early on his part. That's on the player. So...I'm not delusional.

And for as bad as the ump's strikezone was against Zona, it's up to managers/coaches to make sure they know how that's going to be called, and help his players adjust accordingly. The total strikeouts and especially the looking K's are on that adjustment not being made. Sure, the kids have to swing the bat...but the manager has to give them the greenlight to be more aggressive out of their normal strikezone.

It's nuanced things like this that Morris could have done to make a difference, but didn't. We stuck to the strategy of working the count in hopes of running up the pitch count and then unloading a big inning on their starter. It didn't work.

Also...if these were 3-2 or 2-1 losses, I wouldn't be as upset about it. It's losing like we did last year 2x to the Gheytors, plus looking very much unlike the team we were in the Regionals/Supers once we got to Omaha. Or...really...we looked a lot like the "good" team that got to Omaha - Zona and UCSB just had us figured out, and they were more aggressive in taking advantage of it.