The Obsession With WRs Has To Stop

[Geo305]

Coley lived up to his hype. You sleep.

Not his fault he got wasted away by Folden and had poor teams to play with.

You must have missed the 7+ TDs Kaaya missed to him this year too. Before you say anything on it, go back and watch. Started keeping tally of it cause it was unreal.


I get your point but lobbing Stacy in there makes no sense.

Championships won in the trenches like mentioned earlier.

I don't agree that Coley lived up to his immense hype. He had a promising frosh season, essentially disappeared in his 2nd and 3rd year, and bounced back with a solid season. he did 'ok'....not great by any stretch of the imagination. that's not 'living up to the hype' to me.

but what you typed sort of proves my point to why we need to stop freaking out about WRs. If you don't have a good QB and OL, WRs are worthless.

Did you know: Stacy Coley led the ACC in receiving yards in conference games his junior year.... The only 8 regular season games he actually played in....


He did great this year. Brad just totally misfired tbh man. Go back and rewatch every game and you'll see what I mean.

Those 9 TDs, could have been nearly doubled if Brad didn't fall off the face of the earth this year.

You're selling him way short.

 

[Bford2108]

There's no doubt the WR position will be thin at best but for me it's the years of watching Sammy Watkins, dalvin cook, Amari cooper, Calvin Ridley, Lamar Jackson, and you can now add jeudy. Watching those guys walk out of our backyard and go dominate college football has just felt deflating.

 

[PharmCane305]

We needed Jeudy IMO...yes games are won in the trenches but the difference is Bama is dominating the line of scrimmage getting those big boys along with getting baller WR's/RB's

 

[TrueFloridian]

We all want a Juedy, Holliman, or Smith because if Richards goes down there's no other true #1 type guy with Coley gone. Cager or Mullins will have to step up big time. Losing Bruce makes matters much worse. I'm personally in awe that these WR recruits don't see the potential they'd have at UM to play right away with quality Qbs. It makes zero sense for 3 top 20 WRs to all go to the same school with Ridley, seniors that will play over them, and soph 5 stars that they'll at least be sharing reps with. Smith must be going to LSU with Juedy staying put.

 

[sotacane22]

deejay dallas may need to step up at wr

 

[edge]

Agree with Valid. But I will say Sammy Watkins was a big big reason Clemson became a powerhouse. Not the only reason but a big one. He brought big time attention to that program. And no I have no idea if Jeudy is on that level.

 

[Tony Perps]

Our WR recruiting is a total disaster. It's a big deal. Even Richt thinks so.

 

[iLoveTDs]

We desperately need playmakers OP. I disagree with your sentiment that we're making too big of a deal about this position.

Richt doesn't run some sophisticated offensive scheme - he runs a scheme dependent upon having really good talent. It's important he recruits well at WR.

Leach and others can get away with plugging anyone in at WR, but we can't imo.

 

[Coach Macho]

Don't agree that QB's make WR's better. I've never seen that. They can increase a WR's numbers by being more accurate, but those are just numbers, he's never going to make him a better player. The weaknesses will show when he plays better comp. Either he can catch or he can't. Either he can create separation or he can't. A better QB is not gonna help Braxton Berrios get open. I have, however, seen countless scenarios where a WR makes a QB look better. You could give me Dan Marino at QB and I'm never gonna catch a ball against Patrick Peterson. However, if I switch over to QB and you give me Calvin Johnson at WR, chances are I'll complete a few.

What makes a bigger difference IMO is a great OC.
Great OC's make QB's and WR's look better. We see it all over the country. We see offenses with so-so talent putting up gaudy numbers. The QB's move on to the NFL and do nothing. The WR's seldom get drafted. Yet, they look like studs on Saturdays. A great OC finds a way to give an adequate QB easy reads/throws. He finds a way to create route combos that get adequate WR's open.

It's definitely important to have talent at WR. Not having talent at WR limits what you can do on offense.
And the more WR talent you have, the easier it becomes to run the ball. (thus making your OL look better)
If you're in the spread and you've got four WR's that can run 4.4's then the defense can't crowd the box. You're forcing them to play some form of 2-high which gives the offense the advantage in the running game.


You get the right OC and some speed at WR then you can have a slapd!ck at QB and still be successful.

 

[orange&green84]

Don't agree that QB's make WR's better. I've never seen that. They can increase a WR's numbers by being more accurate, but those are just numbers, he's never going to make him a better player. The weaknesses will show when he plays better comp. Either he can catch or he can't. Either he can create separation or he can't. A better QB is not gonna help Braxton Berrios get open. I have, however, seen countless scenarios where a WR makes a QB look better. You could give me Dan Marino at QB and I'm never gonna catch a ball against Patrick Peterson. However, if I switch over to QB and you give me Calvin Johnson at WR, chances are I'll complete a few.

What makes a bigger difference IMO is a great OC.
Great OC's make QB's and WR's look better. We see it all over the country. We see offenses with so-so talent putting up gaudy numbers. The QB's move on to the NFL and do nothing. The WR's seldom get drafted. Yet, they look like studs on Saturdays. A great OC finds a way to give an adequate QB easy reads/throws. He finds a way to create route combos that get adequate WR's open.

It's definitely important to have talent at WR. Not having talent at WR limits what you can do on offense.
And the more WR talent you have, the easier it becomes to run the ball. (thus making your OL look better)
If you're in the spread and you've got four WR's that can run 4.4's then the defense can't crowd the box. You're forcing them to play some form of 2-high which gives the offense the advantage in the running game.


You get the right OC and some speed at WR then you can have a slapd!ck at QB and still be successful.

To throw another name into the hat here, look at Jake Allen. Kid's garbage at QB, but he got the early stars because of Harley and Grimes as well as other D-1 prospects that he got to throw to.

 

[Coach Macho]

Don't agree that QB's make WR's better. I've never seen that. They can increase a WR's numbers by being more accurate, but those are just numbers, he's never going to make him a better player. The weaknesses will show when he plays better comp. Either he can catch or he can't. Either he can create separation or he can't. A better QB is not gonna help Braxton Berrios get open. I have, however, seen countless scenarios where a WR makes a QB look better. You could give me Dan Marino at QB and I'm never gonna catch a ball against Patrick Peterson. However, if I switch over to QB and you give me Calvin Johnson at WR, chances are I'll complete a few.

What makes a bigger difference IMO is a great OC.
Great OC's make QB's and WR's look better. We see it all over the country. We see offenses with so-so talent putting up gaudy numbers. The QB's move on to the NFL and do nothing. The WR's seldom get drafted. Yet, they look like studs on Saturdays. A great OC finds a way to give an adequate QB easy reads/throws. He finds a way to create route combos that get adequate WR's open.

It's definitely important to have talent at WR. Not having talent at WR limits what you can do on offense.
And the more WR talent you have, the easier it becomes to run the ball. (thus making your OL look better)
If you're in the spread and you've got four WR's that can run 4.4's then the defense can't crowd the box. You're forcing them to play some form of 2-high which gives the offense the advantage in the running game.


You get the right OC and some speed at WR then you can have a slapd!ck at QB and still be successful.

To throw another name into the hat here, look at Jake Allen. Kid's garbage at QB, but he got the early stars because of Harley and Grimes as well as other D-1 prospects that he got to throw to.

Which also goes back to what I said about OC's.

From what I've seen, STA has done a good job of coaching Allen where to go with the football. He made all the right throws against Plant on Friday night.

 

[skyman]

We run a pro style offense, where in this day and age you need **** near NFL talent to be successful at every position. When you run simple line up across from you and beat the man type offense you need STUDS. That is how we did it before, we seem to have less and less of monopoly on the top talent. I know some will mention some hidden players from 15 years ago but everyone needs to acknowledge how the game has changed and evolved. Less top talent is slipping thru cracks. Kids are getting evaluated and you have guys like pete recording games and highlights on there handheld devices in HD. 15 years ago, coaches were looking at grainy film.

If you gonna run basic type I have more talent than you offense, you better stack ******* dogs to the brim.

 

[UMercury21]

a lot of people want to point to kayaa missing coley saying coley would have more tds but if coley would catch half the balls thrown to him he would have a lot more TD too. it's a 2 way street.

 

[CaneOil]

This board normally has half of its posts dedicated to WRs.

stop it.

I get it, its the flashy/glamorous position. But WRs don't win you titles. Super hyped WRs don't always live up to the hype either (see S. Coley, Aldarius Johnson, Deonte Thompson, Sam Bruce, etc) while the ones under the radar often surpass their expectations (Hurns, Dorsett, Benjamin, TY).

Jerry Jeudy, while talented, still needs someone to throw him the ball (which he now doesn't have since affirming his bammer commitment).

QBs often make their WRs great...not the other way around and we have Handsome Cade Weldon, Nkosi Perry, and of course Jack Allison.

Furthermore QBs can't throw the ball unless they have time and protection provided by a savage OL which is coming along nicely for this 2017 class.

Championships are won at the line of scrimmage. that's the way its always been and always will be.

We have a monstrous DL coming in and a solid OL being assembled for the future, so Jeudy and all these other overhyped WRs can kick rocks....someone like Harley, or any other WR that can catch and run will put up better numbers because he will have a better QB throwing him the ball.

stop it.

Yup they make way too much out of some positions when linemen wins championships.

 

[NorthEastCane]

It's less of an obsession over WRs and more of an obsession over game changers. JJ, in this case, just happened to play WR

This, exactly this! It's about skill players...players who shine when the lights come on...guys who need the ball in their hands. We need as many as we can get.

It's about priorities. How did those skill players look when we went against a defense that had half a pulse? The OL got b*tch slapped and Kayaa lost a molar on the first play of the game.

It hurts losing Juedy for as much as to make a statement that it's once again "cool" for the elites to come to Miami again. But as far as results on the field, Donaldson (as well as Slaton and others) are a must have. Juedy was just icing on the cake.

 

[1953]

Coley lived up to his hype. You sleep.

Not his fault he got wasted away by Folden and had poor teams to play with.

You must have missed the 7+ TDs Kaaya missed to him this year too. Before you say anything on it, go back and watch. Started keeping tally of it cause it was unreal.


I get your point but lobbing Stacy in there makes no sense.

Championships won in the trenches like mentioned earlier.

I don't agree that Coley lived up to his immense hype. He had a promising frosh season, essentially disappeared in his 2nd and 3rd year, and bounced back with a solid season. he did 'ok'....not great by any stretch of the imagination. that's not 'living up to the hype' to me.

but what you typed sort of proves my point to why we need to stop freaking out about WRs. If you don't have a good QB and OL, WRs are worthless.

Did you know: Stacy Coley led the ACC in receiving yards in conference games his junior year.... The only 8 regular season games he actually played in....


He did great this year. Brad just totally misfired tbh man. Go back and rewatch every game and you'll see what I mean.

Those 9 TDs, could have been nearly doubled if Brad didn't fall off the face of the earth this year.

You're selling him way short.

True----DL much better this year....OL has a long way to go

 

[TedHendricksOffspring]

Only reason some will downplay the importance of WRs is because we've struck out on every single premier target at the position in this year's cycle. Our woeful offense was the reason for our disastrous October stretch and now we're not restocking the cupboards with difference making talent to fill the voids left by Njoku/Coley.

Richards is going to be doubled constantly with no other established weapons to take pressure/attention away from him. If he goes down? We're beyond f*****. This is a massive problem.

The truth hurts, but its the truth. I'm tired of hearing, "We'll be OK" after every single f'n miss on a top priority recruit. This ish should infuriate any true Cane fan, including those who have on the Orange/Green shades on. This is completely unacceptable. We ain't FIU, FAU, UCF, or USF...we're THE U! Yet, we can't get our own way:

-Easy schedule? Don't worry, we'll find a way to lose 4 games in October to sub par teams.
-Start 7-0? Don't worry, we'll just lose 4 of the of our next 6 games
-Coach goes 28-22 with the highest rated class in the Coastal? No worries, we'll keep him for another year

This is Miami football...

Miami Football as we remember it is over mane..come to grips with it...I know its hard mane....tahts why we're all here

The guy who bans himself from the site really shouldn't be passing out his analysis on all things Hurricane related. Stop acting like missing Jeudy is a betrayal of our identity.

 

[JgDaCane]

Not about a "WR" its about landing elite prospects period.

 

[FlipT]

I respectfully disagree about the emphasis on the wr pos.As you can see Bama's approach to wr has changed ,if you dont have perimeter players, you WILL lose.

 

[simplycanes]

I agree that some are overreacting to us missing out on players where our chances were at best 50/50, I disagree that we are overreacting to the receiver position.

Next year, we have one proven good one and potentially a new QB. That's going to be pretty easy to challenge with a double-team. What we need are some game changers--RB and WR. We have potential at RB, hopefully, but we're missing it at WR. Someone with the potential to punish a defense who says, OK new QB, you have a double teamed WR1 or nothing. Someone who can flip a game in your favor by taking the 7 yard slant 70.

If you look at the top talent at all the programs who are consistently threatening a playoff a run, they have that player. Sammy Watkins won Clemson at least 5 games I can think of. Dalvin Cook won F$U 3 games against us alone.