Y’all trying to apply logic to an illogical system.
We ****ed ourselves before the committee did. They just got the money shot.
Refs made sure UGA left with a W. Honestly I don't think it would have mattered. Would have just meant another 9-3 SEC team in the playoffsGeorgia Tech screwed us a second time. If they had just beaten Georgia, then the rankings could have gone differently. Georgia would have looked worse and, by extension, Alabama’s win against them would have been less impressive. And our loss to GT would have looked better.
We invested $100mm in Mario and the program to avoid these year-end debates.
Maybe this is oversimplification but if you have two teams for one spot - shouldn't the first criteria be actual win loss record? Pretty sure 10-2 > 9-3. If the records are the same then you go down the rabbit hole of variables.I've seen so much speculation and misinformation on here and on the internet, it's driving me crazy, so I wanted to put something together for you guys that I believe is essentially factual.
First of all, IMO (and I think this is probably 99.9% correct), 11 spots are locked down. In no particular order:
Oregon
Penn State
Ohio State
Indiana
UGA
Texas
Tennessee
Notre Dame
SMU
Big 12 champ winner (Arizona State vs Iowa State winner)
Group of 5 champ winner (Boise State vs UNLV winner)
No matter what happens on Saturday, these 11 spots are locked. You can argue SMU if they lose, but I think they're in regardless. The committee has said every week you're not going to be punished for making a conference championship, and I agree. So I think they're in, win or lose.
So, what does this mean? It means, IF SMU BEATS CLEMSON, there will be 1 more team that gets in. The pool for that team is almost certainly Miami, Alabama, Ole Miss, and South Carolina.
None of those teams play on Saturday, meaning however they're ranked tonight is likely how they will be ranked on Sunday when all this is finalized. Also remember, the Big 12 leader, which is currently Arizona State, is going to be ranked OUTSIDE the Top 12 this week, but they are guaranteed a spot, meaning the last team in the field when the rankings are unveiled tonight will be ranked #11. THIS IS THE SPOT MIAMI NEEDS, OR IT'S OVER. Again, Miami needs to be #11 or better tonight to have a shot at the playoffs. If we're #12 or lower, that means at least one of Alabama, USCe, or Ole Miss is ahead of us, and we won't jump them next week.
One final thing, even if we are #11 tonight, we MUST have SMU beat Clemson on Saturday night. If Clemson wins that game, they are in the field, and as I said above, SMU likely stays in as well, meaning that pool of Miami, Bama, USCe, and Ole Miss would ALL be out. Those "bubble" teams are all rooting bigly for SMU to beat Clemson. If Clemson wins, we are not making the field.
So, we need 2 things to happen. BOTH of these need to happen, or we are out:
1. We need to be ranked 11th or better tonight.
2. We need SMU to beat Clemson Saturday night.
If both of those things happen, we make the playoff. If one or both do not, we're out.
Let me know if you disagree with any of this, but I don't see how you can. I think this is about as cut and dry as you can have it at this point. We need to be ahead of all of the 3 loss SEC teams tonight, and we need SMU to keep Clemson from stealing a bid this weekend.
Maybe this is oversimplification but if you have two teams for one spot - shouldn't the first criteria be actual win loss record? Pretty sure 10-2 > 9-3. If the records are the same then you go down the rabbit hole of variables.
If it was still 4 and we beat Syracuse we'd be arguing about if our 12-1 with ACCCG is better than Notre Dame's 11-1 to get in at #3 or #4. BIG12 and G5 would be out and so would B1G and SEC CG losers.Well to be fair we’ve never had a year-end debate about the playoffs because we’ve never been close, save 2017 when we were out when we lost to Pitt, most likely.
But to be really fair, we’ve never had a 12 team playoff before either. If it was still 4 our season would’ve ended with GT, probably.
Yep. And like I said. Won’t watch a ******* second of it. Time to start removing myself from group chats lolwell, the facade has been drawn. They got what they intended from the start. The only spot they could manipulate the rankings to get it was at Miami's expense.
No we don't. The B12 champion gets the 12 seed. We're eliminated.Clemson wins and we're out. SMU wins we have a chance at the 12th seed.
It's that simple.
Yup. I've been predicting it all week and still hurts.Not when the 9-3 team plays in the mighty SEC, apparently….
Miami's SID and AD need to ***** about the fact that starting with VT we had media personalities hyper-focusing on a few ref calls in a way they simply did not do for any other team, including a College Gameday segment to talk about refs helping Miami, a last game of the season curated full montage of Cane-favorable calls for the Cuse game, and Bama alum Reece Davis talking about VT and Cal ref calls in the selection show.
So the ACC will only get a 3 loss clemson in, and 11-2 SMU is out for a 9-3 Bama team...sounds legit! It pay$ to be $ec!
99% of the teams lost games this year. There were not multiple teams dominating the field. Let’s look at the losses…Let’s get this straight. The reason we didn’t make the playoffs wasn’t because the committee screwed us. It was because couldn’t finish the job and beat Syracuse and GT. We did this to ourselves