The Bank (10/16)

[RightSaidFred]

Do @OrangeBowlMagic a favor and look at Oregon's rankings since 2019 and reevaluate.

Now, that's not to say it's foolproof (Texas 8-4 is right in that range too). Taking the limiter off the transfer portal and NIL also change things drastically. However, if you have a 4-5 year span of putting multiple top 9 classes along with a 3rd or 4th ranked class and combine with a strong NIL program, there is absolutely no excuse not to have a strong roster and a team that should be sniffing the playoffs+.

Miami does not currently have the clout nor the NIL to consistently have top 3 classes. Top 8, though? Definitely. Throw in a playoff run or two and you start to see more top 5 finishes.

Also the difference between Ohio St and Texas (the team many on here think is the most "complete" team) is a couple of very good to great QBs (Texas) vs decent to maybe semi-good (Ohio St).

Texas and Oregon haven’t won ****. I’m not trying to be Oregon. Look at Alabama classes under Saban and Georgia classes under Smart. Those teams won natties. That’s what we’re trying to get to.

Just making the playoffs isn’t the goal. Winning the whole thing is the goal.

 

[JamesQuall]

Texas and Oregon haven’t won ****. I’m not trying to be Oregon. Look at Alabama classes under Saban and Georgia classes under Smart. Those teams won natties. That’s what we’re trying to get to.

Just making the playoffs isn’t the goal. Winning the whole thing is the goal.

You're so dumb it hurts to read what you type.

 

[CANESCANES]

@DMoney, what's their reasoning with McCoy? Great that he's that highly thought of but I also would've thought Francis is the unanimous best OL prospect we have.

Francis might be #1 OT off board in 2026

269 snaps without giving up a QB hit or sack

 

[TOcane]

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Take your own advice.

Terrible GIF use you know what happened immediately after that? Gandalf knocked the **** out of Saruman.

 

[TOcane]

Disagree. If you recruit the #9 class every year, maybe. But we went 7th, 4th, and then let’s say 8th this year? If you evaluate well, that’s enough talent to beat anyone you need to beat. But you’re gonna need a quarterback to do it.

Sounds like the Clemson model but with portal use.

 

[RightSaidFred]

You're so dumb it hurts to read what you type.

my bad—I didn’t realize making sense was painful for you. Maybe take a break and let the grown men who aren’t sensitive talk about what it takes to win championships.

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

Our* targets are

Hour* targets.

That's how frequently they change.

 

[JamesQuall]

my bad—I'm a ******* moron, I dont't know my *** from a hole in the ground. I strive to poRst like fraggle and I am trying my hardest to make @Empirical Cane proud. Forgive my stupidity I can't help it. I am a room temperatured smooth brained dumbass. I hope to one day be a real poRster!

Keep it up and your poRsting will be recognized one day sport!

 

[No_Fly_Zone]

And, sadly, you are desperate to be a Maude.

Not all it's cracked up to be. Here's @Andrew every payday:

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Texas and Oregon haven’t won ****. I’m not trying to be Oregon. Look at Alabama classes under Saban and Georgia classes under Smart. Those teams won natties. That’s what we’re trying to get to.

Just making the playoffs isn’t the goal. Winning the whole thing is the goal.

L O L.

Ryan Day and Dabo Swinney say hello, but for different reasons. If you can figure out why I brought them up.

Just because you say something doesn’t make it true.

Pay attention to @OrangeBowlMagic posts.

 

[PIPO]

Keep it up and your poRsting will be recognized one day sport!

 

[cway313]

Not all it's cracked up to be. Here's @Andrew every payday:

"Slap yo got**** daddy" is a top 2 quote all-time and it ain't number 2.

 

[ARodri7982]

You are launching yourself to conclusions. Nowhere did I say, or even insinuate, that Miami has equal talent to UGA or Texas. These classes I’m talking about are all first or second year players. As you said, the other teams are cumulative, they have been stacking classes for years and years.

Also, if you wanna get really real about it, check out Texas’s class rankings for the past 5 cycles:

9th
15th
5th
3rd
6th

They’ve had 1 top 3 class. They’re a pretty good football team. Do I want the #1 class every year? Of course. Can you compete for national championships recruiting classes in the neighborhood of 4th and 7th in back to back years? You sure can.

I agree and I think it depends on the make up of the class position wise. I mean look at some of Riley's class in the past, top QB, RB and WR, but no Natty. **** he even had Caleb Williams for 2 years.

I'm curious to know the make up of Michigan's classes when they won.

 

[Calinative]

Who is Underwood? Luke Nickel is going to be a **** good one.

Taken as a whole, if you are saying that the entire Class of 2025 for all of college football is not as good as the Class of 2024, I'm not sure there's a response for that. I thought we were just talking about UM recruiting.

Bryce Underwood is the top rated player in the nation right now and #1 Qb in the class committed to LSU. I like Nickel a lot. I think he'll be our best HS Qb prospect we've landed in literally over a decade since Kaaya was 2014 class. And yeah I was talking for all college football.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Everyone is talking dbs , if we land Wiley when is the last time we landed these calibers of lbs in one class ?

 

[Calinative]

I don’t worry about recruiting like I did before because Mario is as good as I could ask for on the trail. It seems from previous comments that people do not think Nickel is ranked as he should be. Where do we think he fits in rankings-wise, we’re he ranked properly?

Nickel should prob be borderline top 10 instead of 22.
I mean he aint no Lloyd Jones or Adam Schobel (@Memnon lol), but he's pretty **** good.

 

[ArchersFury]

I agree and I think it depends on the make up of the class position wise. I mean look at some of Riley's class in the past, top QB, RB and WR, but no Natty. **** he even had Caleb Williams for 2 years.

I'm curious to know the make up of Michigan's classes when they won.

2018 - 22nd
2019 - 8th
2020 - 10th
2021 - 13th
2022 - 9th

Built from the trenches out.

 

[BALLHAWKU]

2018 - 22nd
2019 - 8th
2020 - 10th
2021 - 13th
2022 - 9th

Built from the trenches out.

Agree we have to get Wiley type lbs too. Big , fast , game changers who can fly around knocking the snot out people behind those boys creating havoc in the trenches

 

[grover]

I wasn't talking about our recruiting, just the entire hs 2025 class

QB, I'd say is down imo. Underwood seems legit, but like Raiola, Lagway, Nico, even Arch seem like they were much higher quality prospects to me than are out this year. For us specificlaly, yeah Nickel is a big step above what we have recruited recently.

RB definitely seems down overall. I like Pringle, but there's even only like three top 100 RB prospects on 247 right now. pringle I'd put there with Lyle and above Fletcher.

WR there are a lot of highly rated guys, I like Moore and Myles a lot. But honestly it seems decently top heavy, and I'm not sure the top are even close to the top from last years class. This part is a little dissapointing because WR is probably one of our biggest needs for this class specifically. Just seems meh to me. Like we have to land 2 of like Brown, Wilson, and Ffrench or something... Currently committed guys are below last year.

DB, I actually think is pretty loaded in general. Lot of good/great prospects imo. This part is working out really well for us given this is the biggest need we have to fix on the entire team. Currently committed guys are legit imo, and what we COULD land may be our best DB haul like ever. It would be by far best in the country, but Ohio State is going insane there.

LB seems like it's pretty deep this year too, I'd say. So maybe you could put that and TE together as being better than normal. I expect this LB haul to actually be our best yet.

DLine seems just average to bad compared to last year though. After last year, it'll be not as good, but last years haul was elite.

But idk, maybe it's just cause thats what I'm focused on for us....

Agree. LB seems decent and DB seems really good. Otherwise, it’s one of the least impressive Top 100 or Top 300 classes in a while IMO. Of course I didn’t look closely at the guys that we never even sniffed at, so they may turn out really good.

 

[CaneTheGaytors]

Ready for some unpopular opinions? (And I promise I am not a full panic sky is falling type when it comes to recruiting)

- In college football, mobility is the name of the game. Only a select few elite guys (Ewers, Beck) are able to be super successful without the threat to run. Nickel is fine but he better be an A+ processor if he's going to be the guy.

- Absolutely need to bring in a proven portal guy at QB for next year if we are going to build real momentum.

- Our WR recruiting stinks out loud. Moore is a nice player. Upshaw is fine assuming he sticks (he might not). But we were supposed to go "big game hunting" this year and guys like Wilson, French are trending away.

- We talk about stacking elite talent, especially in the trenches and this DL class ain't that.

- Our linebacker commits are too **** small.

- I'd feel a lot better about the DB class if there were 1-2 true studs in the mix. Right now the class is good not great.

At the end of the day, if we keep winning, I trust Mario to do his thing and have us in a good spot when the dust settles.

You think Ewers and Beck are elite? You lost me right there.

Both are okay college QB’s. Don’t see either of them being great at the next level. Beck takes way too long to process what he’s seeing, and at the NFL level, he will get destroyed. Ewers is an okay prospect, but will also quickly learn that the NFL is a different beast.

Best QB prospect in this draft is Cam, and it’s not close. Sanders is right behind him, in my opinion. Even though Sanders will have to seriously work on his processing speed, too. If you hold the ball that long in the NFL without having elite scrambling skills, you’re asking for a hurting. Even Bo Nix, who is known for his running ability, is quickly finding out that NFL speed on defense is a whole nother beast.