Talk lately has me a little nervous about 2020 football season. Thoughts?

[SinisterCane]

SEC will be playing their games this fall. You heard it here first.

Football is AL and MS entire economy

 

[Kempo Cane]

Man these are just hard and strange times, I just don't know what to believe , but up till this I was a Trump fan, but when I see him just stand and straight up lie l loose all faith in the President. I'm just a hard working American that just wants this to end, but we must have compassion for those that have Lost there life 40,000 man I wish I could wrap my head around this. Just very difficult times.

 

[Home Slice]

That makes spring ball pretty entertaining.

Would this make Fall Ball the new Spring Ball?

 

[ThomasM]

Would this make Fall Ball the new Spring Ball?

Just think, Manny won't lose a game in September, October, November, December OR January. On the flip side, can you imagine how unprepared we will be with a bye year going into March?

 

[Home Slice]

Just think, Manny won't lose a game in September, October, November, December OR January. On the flip side, can you imagine how unprepared we will be with a bye year going into March?

No ****.

 

[Empirical Cane]

Man these are just hard and strange times, I just don't know what to believe , but up till this I was a Trump fan, but when I see him just stand and straight up lie l loose all faith in the President. I'm just a hard working American that just wants this to end, but we must have compassion for those that have Lost there life 40,000 man I wish I could wrap my head around this. Just very difficult times.

We must also have compassion for out of work people too.

Brutal, awful choice.

 

[Tim]

I’m optimistic we have some sort of start to the season but what concerns me more is that we are a week or two into it and a handful of these kids get sick and test positive - they will lock things instantly if that happens. Would rather have no season than one that lasts a few weeks and gets pulled.

Not if they are honest about it. Not a lot of 18-22 year old athletes have died from COVID-19. I don't want to see anyone get sick, but I don't want to see anyone tear up their knee. There is risk in everything we do. The at risk population is still elderly folks with comorbidities. At some point we need some common sense to take root here. Now that the data is more mature it shows that the mortality of COVID is under 1%. Previous estimates were "orders of magnitude too high" (Stanford University). If tix are on sale, I'll be there.

 

[troyskiles]

Yes. As much as he values football and we value football, the AD has to seem impartial and be fair towards all sports and treat them all as a priority.

A "Good" AD would use business smarts and open the money making sports first and then the other if possible. With out football, those other sport teams cannot sustain themselves.

 

[troyskiles]

Thanks, friend. I've been hearing Trump flapping his gums about all the ventilators and how beautiful they are, but I haven't seen anything reported on them actually being made. He's lied so much that I don't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. That's why I'm looking for some actual verification of how many ventilators/PPE we have actually manufactured here since this started.

Good luck getting an accurate answer to that one, Chise.

 

[Go Canes!!]

Thanks, friend. I've been hearing Trump flapping his gums about all the ventilators and how beautiful they are, but I haven't seen anything reported on them actually being made. He's lied so much that I don't trust anything that comes out of his mouth. That's why I'm looking for some actual verification of how many ventilators/PPE we have actually manufactured here since this started.

Trump was right about New York not needing anywhere near the 30-40,000 ventilators Cuomo asked for. At their peak they were using less than 7000, which was basically what they had on hand plus the 4500 sent to them by the feds.

 

[1LuvCane]

Trump was right about New York not needing anywhere near the 30-40,000 ventilators Cuomo asked for. At their peak they were using less than 7000, which was basically what they had on hand plus the 4500 sent to them by the feds.

@troyskiles Looks like we got our answer...

 

[The Franchise]

Trump was right about New York not needing anywhere near the 30-40,000 ventilators Cuomo asked for. At their peak they were using less than 7000, which was basically what they had on hand plus the 4500 sent to them by the feds.

This really has nothing to do with my question about ventilator production, which I'm genuinely interested in the real answer to.

But, yes he was right when he guessed that NYC wouldn't need that many ventilators. Sometimes, when you guess, you are right. Guessing, opinions, and feeling are not a great approach to solving scientific problems though. Cuomo was using the data that was being presented to him at the time. Thankfully, the data changed dramatically in response to NY Pause. It was touch and go for awhile there, though, and they were short at the peak on PPE.

 

[Go Canes!!]

This really has nothing to do with my question about ventilator production, which I'm genuinely interested in the real answer to.

But, yes he was right when he guessed that NYC wouldn't need that many ventilators. Sometimes, when you guess, you are right. Guessing, opinions, and feeling are not a great approach to solving scientific problems though. Cuomo was using the data that was being presented to him at the time. Thankfully, the data changed dramatically in response to NY Pause. It was touch and go for awhile there, though, and they were short at the peak on PPE.

I don't think guess is the right word there. I seriously doubt he wasn't advised about what his people thought the real number needed was going to be.

At the end Cuomo was just doing his job trying to secure all he could for his state and Trump did his by waiting before sending more than they would ever need. The rest was a lot of media rhetoric.

This piece in the NYT just two days ago, at the same time New York was giving ventilators to other states is yet another perfect example. It's fear mongering that flies in the face of obvious reality.

Fears of Ventilator Shortage Unleash a Wave of Innovations (Published 2020)

Hair dryer hoods, sleep apnea machines and simply flipping patients on their stomach have helped sustain patients and reduced the need for critical care ventilators.

www.nytimes.com

 

[JD08]

This really has nothing to do with my question about ventilator production, which I'm genuinely interested in the real answer to.

But, yes he was right when he guessed that NYC wouldn't need that many ventilators. Sometimes, when you guess, you are right. Guessing, opinions, and feeling are not a great approach to solving scientific problems though. Cuomo was using the data that was being presented to him at the time. Thankfully, the data changed dramatically in response to NY Pause. It was touch and go for awhile there, though, and they were short at the peak on PPE.

Here's Tesla's claim.

 

[1LuvCane]

Here's Tesla's claim.

Stats and facts vs. Opinion....
Thank You, sir.

 

[1LuvCane]

I don't think guess is the right word there. I seriously doubt he wasn't advised about what his people thought the real number needed was going to be.

At the end Cuomo was just doing his job trying to secure all he could for his state and Trump did his by waiting before sending more than they would ever need. The rest was a lot of media rhetoric.

This piece in the NYT just two days ago, at the same time New York was giving ventilators to other states is yet another perfect example. It's fear mongering that flies in the face of obvious reality.

Fears of Ventilator Shortage Unleash a Wave of Innovations (Published 2020)

Hair dryer hoods, sleep apnea machines and simply flipping patients on their stomach have helped sustain patients and reduced the need for critical care ventilators.

www.nytimes.com

When one's scared they side with the fear mongering. Thanks for the article...

 

[The Franchise]

I don't think guess is the right word there. I seriously doubt he wasn't advised about what his people thought the real number needed was going to be.

At the end Cuomo was just doing his job trying to secure all he could for his state and Trump did his by waiting before sending more than they would ever need. The rest was a lot of media rhetoric.

This piece in the NYT just two days ago, at the same time New York was giving ventilators to other states is yet another perfect example. It's fear mongering that flies in the face of obvious reality.

Fears of Ventilator Shortage Unleash a Wave of Innovations (Published 2020)

Hair dryer hoods, sleep apnea machines and simply flipping patients on their stomach have helped sustain patients and reduced the need for critical care ventilators.

www.nytimes.com

Again, that has nothing to do with the amount of ventilators that have been produced. You're introducing a separate issue to prop Trump up. Specific to my question, Trump has claimed US companies are producing "hundreds of thousands" of ventilators. I haven't seen evidence of any. It looks to me like, at this stage, we probably don't any extra ventilators due to how most of America has practiced social distancing. We should probably ramp down production if there are, indeed, "hundreds of thousands" being produced.

Cuomo was wrong about how many ventilators he needed. He was attempting to prepare based on the models that were in place at the time. When you're attempting to prepare and save lives, you don't have the benefit of waiting until the catastrophe ends and playing Monday Morning QB. We see the same thing every year with hurricane preparedness. You can opt to "hunker down" and ignore the data, and most of the time you'll be right.

As a governor, you can't sit back and have opinions on this sort of stuff. He had the real lives of his people at stake. You have to rely on the data that is available, and at the time he was requesting so many ventilators, all the models had it being a much more catastrophic event in NY. Same reason they built out the Javitz Center so quickly and excellently. It's probably better to be over-prepared than under-prepared when you're dealing with life and death matters like Cuomo was.

 

[The Franchise]

Here's Tesla's claim.

Thank you. That's awesome of Tesla if that's legit info.

 

[1LuvCane]

 

[Go Canes!!]

Again, that has nothing to do with the amount of ventilators that have been produced. You're introducing a separate issue to prop Trump up. Specific to my question, Trump has claimed US companies are producing "hundreds of thousands" of ventilators. I haven't seen evidence of any. It looks to me like, at this stage, we probably don't any extra ventilators due to how most of America has practiced social distancing. We should probably ramp down production if there are, indeed, "hundreds of thousands" being produced.

Cuomo was wrong about how many ventilators he needed. He was attempting to prepare based on the models that were in place at the time. When you're attempting to prepare and save lives, you don't have the benefit of waiting until the catastrophe ends and playing Monday Morning QB. We see the same thing every year with hurricane preparedness. You can opt to "hunker down" and ignore the data, and most of the time you'll be right.

As a governor, you can't sit back and have opinions on this sort of stuff. He had the real lives of his people at stake. You have to rely on the data that is available, and at the time he was requesting so many ventilators, all the models had it being a much more catastrophic event in NY. Same reason they built out the Javitz Center so quickly and excellently. It's probably better to be over-prepared than under-prepared when you're dealing with life and death matters like Cuomo was.

I don’t consider it a separate issue. I think had the predicted shortage come anywhere close to materializing, the production would’ve been exponentially higher.

Here’s an article indicating in a combined effort between government and the private sector we’re going to produce 200,000 more ventilators to stockpile by the end of the year.

Trump announces creation of federal ventilator stockpile after ‘scariest’ day of his life

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday announced his administration will build a federal ventilator reserve, calling the day he learned the US did not have enough for the coronavirus pandemi…

www.google.com