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Take it with a grain of salt

SouthpawCane said:
RiDLer80 said:
SouthpawCane said:
The PSU case showed notice of allegations don't have to be given. The NCAA has been at Miami forever and maybe they worked this deal out and agreed to it without NOA. May be true and may not be true.
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The PSU situation was unprecedented. Also, the Freeh report had done all the investigating necessary. The NCAA had no need to conduct their own investigation thus there was no wait for sanctions. Totally different situations.
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BS! Every case is different. The guy is claiming there is no bowl ban and 9 losses of scholies. Miami worked closely with the NCAA self imposed a bowl ban and we all know Shapiro and Charles Robinson are weasels to begin with. **** our student athletes were slapped on the wrist last year over a few grand of free dinners, jerseys, and drinks. There wasn't one case that really made anybody say WOW! The whole thing was nothing more than hyped up BS from a conman and a sleazy journalist that makes all journalists look bad.

This has been ongoing for 18 months. Would it really surprise anybody if Miami agreed to a slap on the wrist to get this **** put behind them so they can move on already?
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No. Every case isn't different. The Penn State case was different. The procedure for these types of things is all the same.

1. The allegations are investigated and the school in question works with the NCAA to uncover all violations.

2. The NCAA delivers a NOA to the school.

3. There are hearings

4. The penalties are delivered.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Process/Investigations
 
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Want to know what else is annoying? Arguing about posters on another Canes board that those who have been here since the beginning could give two ***** about.
 
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RiDLer80 said:
SouthpawCane said:
RiDLer80 said:
SouthpawCane said:
The PSU case showed notice of allegations don't have to be given. The NCAA has been at Miami forever and maybe they worked this deal out and agreed to it without NOA. May be true and may not be true.
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The PSU situation was unprecedented. Also, the Freeh report had done all the investigating necessary. The NCAA had no need to conduct their own investigation thus there was no wait for sanctions. Totally different situations.
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BS! Every case is different. The guy is claiming there is no bowl ban and 9 losses of scholies. Miami worked closely with the NCAA self imposed a bowl ban and we all know Shapiro and Charles Robinson are weasels to begin with. **** our student athletes were slapped on the wrist last year over a few grand of free dinners, jerseys, and drinks. There wasn't one case that really made anybody say WOW! The whole thing was nothing more than hyped up BS from a conman and a sleazy journalist that makes all journalists look bad.

This has been ongoing for 18 months. Would it really surprise anybody if Miami agreed to a slap on the wrist to get this **** put behind them so they can move on already?
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No. Every case isn't different. The Penn State case was different. The procedure for these types of things is all the same.

1. The allegations are investigated and the school in question works with the NCAA to uncover all violations.

2. The NCAA delivers a NOA to the school.

3. There are hearings

4. The penalties are delivered.

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/wcm/connect/public/NCAA/Enforcement/Process/Investigations
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This Miami investigation sets new precedent just as much as the PSU case. Miami self reported and the NCAA has commented on how cooperative they have been. Nothing has leaked so you have no clue what type of negotiations are going on. If they're working together then how do you know they haven't reached a decision and Miami agrees and is willing to move on. Those steps do not have to be followed every case.

Like I said, EVERY case is different. PSU set new precedent because of the way they hid criminal activity to keep their competitive advantage not because of the way the investigation was handled. If anything the PSU case proves those steps you mentioned don't have to be followed.
 
If you think about it, think about a dollar amount we are talking about.
We have free rides to campus, some illegal phone calls, and some free dinners
That is if it is all true. All athletes and coaches have been punished or not with us anymore. So there is actually not a lot there even is true.
 
****, do I want this to be true! It is possible- the NCAA can avoid the notice of allegations (or whatever they call it) if they agree to the summary dispositiion process- basically, we don't contest what the NCAA found, agree to their sanctions, and move on. It doesn't happen often, and I'm not buying it until it happens, but wouldn't that be great if it does happen.
 
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Wasn't the NCAA recently, practically begging UM for help having former players cooperate?
 
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Why does anyone believe this? I would take that punishment in a second. The fact that we would all be happy with that punishment means no way that's what it is. You have to be retarded to believe this. Miami is not an exception. PSU is an exception. Miami will be dealt with like every other school not named PSU.
 
NVA CANE said:
Why does anyone believe this? I would take that punishment in a second. The fact that we would all be happy with that punishment means no way that's what it is. You have to be retarded to believe this. Miami is not an exception. PSU is an exception. Miami will be dealt with like every other school not named PSU.
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I wouldn't be surprised if that's the punishment we received, but procedurally it's all off.
 
Canething said:
Guy on the rivals main board claims the NCAA has made its decision on Miami. States 9 scholarships ,three per year, no bowl ban. Basketball team will loose ships as well. Sanctions will be announced in three weeks. Again take this with a grain of salt. Just passing on what I just read.
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Without the allegations. Not buying it.
 
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No LOI. No response from UM. Nothing. If you believe this then I have some other stuff I'd like to sell you.
 
SouthpawCane said:
This Miami investigation sets new precedent just as much as the PSU case. Miami self reported and the NCAA has commented on how cooperative they have been. Nothing has leaked so you have no clue what type of negotiations are going on. If they're working together then how do you know they haven't reached a decision and Miami agrees and is willing to move on. Those steps do not have to be followed every case.

Like I said, EVERY case is different. PSU set new precedent because of the way they hid criminal activity to keep their competitive advantage not because of the way the investigation was handled. If anything the PSU case proves those steps you mentioned don't have to be followed.
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You seem to be the only who thinks that that the NCAA doesn't have a procedure that they follow in each one of these investigations. Like another poster said, Miami is not the exception, Penn State was.
 
Chicken_N_Roffles said:
TooColdToHold said:
False. The NCAA first issues a notice of allegations and gives the school a chance to state their case at a hearing. Sanctions are typically announced bought eight weeks later.
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This. Nobody, other than PSU, just gets handed penalties.
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I don't think the OP's prediction is correct, BUT, if the University decides to take the punishment the NCAA gives them, then, well...they can bypass all of the junk and just take the penalties without needed to go in front of the infractions committee.

If Miami just so happens to get no bowl ban and 3 schollies less per year...that's skating...I'd take it and not even fight it.

No LOI makes this story sketchy though.
 
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