Sun Life Stadium

On-campus or near campus--not happening. I personally really like this renovation plan. It looks like the low corners might experience a slightly obstructed view, but that could just be the rendering and not reality. This type of stadium plays to the city's strengths, open air (but with shade), smaller capacity, louder atmosphere, etc...Guys, this is the type of venue that I think could really give us the home field advantage we have been dying for. Not to mention, the stadium at first glance seems to be unique. If they can somehow capture that Miami vibe...they will hit a home run (**** the Marlins no pun intended).
 
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That's great but the referendum is unlikely to pass. Heck I'm not sure but it might not make the ballot considering the mayor wants a guarantee from Godell in place that SoFl gets the SB, not just bids on one.

Bottom line, it's a longshot to happen.
 
There are two different renderings of the stadium after proposed renovation. The video show the seating in the upper deck corners GONE. The still pictures show it redu, but not gone. If you look closely at the stills and the video, they are quite different. Also, as another poster pointed out, the only way to remove 20,000 seats between a Cane and Dolphin game is with tarps. The Phins aren't playing in a 50,000 seat stadium.

Keep in mind that if they just remove the seats in the UD corners, you instantly have the average seat closer to the field without really providing any seats closer to the field. And, while that is true, is that what any fan had in mind? I don't think so. It will be interesting to see what the actual plans are, not just a couple of options.
 
That's great but the referendum is unlikely to pass. Heck I'm not sure but it might not make the ballot considering the mayor wants a guarantee from Godell in place that SoFl gets the SB, not just bids on one.

Bottom line, it's a longshot to happen.

Interesting, maybe the best thing for us (long term) is for this to NOT happen.
 
On-campus or near campus--not happening. I personally really like this renovation plan. It looks like the low corners might experience a slightly obstructed view, but that could just be the rendering and not reality. This type of stadium plays to the city's strengths, open air (but with shade), smaller capacity, louder atmosphere, etc...Guys, this is the type of venue that I think could really give us the home field advantage we have been dying for. Not to mention, the stadium at first glance seems to be unique. If they can somehow capture that Miami vibe...they will hit a home run (**** the Marlins no pun intended).

no way they decrease capacity in a pro stadium. u need 75k for an NFL team
 
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First and foremost, I will preface this by saying that since the age of 3 and that was in 1978, I have been a season ticket holder with my dad for both Dolphins and Canes games, I have had the joy and honor of experiencing the OB and some of the best games ever there, as well as enjoyed Joe Robbie Stadium, I will always call it that, he deserves it, he paid for it with no public money, and at the time the stadium WAS A MODEL FOR ALL OTHERS. With that said there were some design issues with JRS that impacted the football experience, but as some here have had the audacity to call it a dump, is preposterous and insulting and unfair. First off, the renovations would in fact turn the stadium back to state of the art, as the infrastructure is in place, secondly, the issue here was when the stadium was built, Joe Robbie envisioned bringing a baseball team and soccer events to Miami, but to do that the design of the stadium forced the seating to be further away from the field, and thus taking away that advantage of the crowd. But to his credit it did bring baseball to South Florida.

On another note, this attack on the stadium because of location. First I will preface this by stating I am a Miami boy, but for those knocking the location, your foolish and clearly don't see the big picture, and like most who I have discussed this with are from Miami and nowhere else. The fact is JRS is perfectly situated, you have access from all over, the 826, I95, The Turnpike, a variety of ways that allow for traffic to be minimal and to flow and not stay stagnant. Secondly, guess what this nonsense of the majority of fans are in Miami, is exactly that nonsense. There are tons of fans in Broward and Palm Beach, the stadium allows both teams to have excellent access to South Florida fans, not just fans in Miami. When running a program you must hve the ability to look at the big picture and to access all avenues, the Miami Hurricanes have fans in Miami Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, plent of them, it is good business to tap into all of them, JRS provides that the best, and unless we were to have an on campus stadium, which will never happen in Coral Gables, than a stadium that allows you to tap into the whole market is the smart business move.

Third, enough with this nonsense of us leaving the OB, folks, the City of Miami screwed the pooch on this one, and they allowed the OB to get run down, the plan was always to remove the old girl and build a baseball stadium, the University had no choice but to move to JRS.

The fact of the matter is this thing about having their own stadium, though would be nice no doubt, is no big deal. The Canes have always played in a stadium that wasn't theirs and still won, they always had the bs argument of other schools and their facilities while we don't and still won, the Dolphins have won at Joe Robbie at times without the home field crowd advantage, and do you know why? Because they were more talented that year!! This nonsense of advantage, is bs, field a more talented team and it doesn't matter where you play. Now with the proposed new improvements, the seats will be moved in, creating that crowd advantage, the stadium technologically will be up to date, with the canopy and new design the University will be playing in the most bad *** looking stadium, that is also a pro team stadium (selling point to recruits) in all of college football. With the seats being moved in closer to the field, we will have that home field advantage.

And also folks, especially in today's age where public funding is into play, at least the Dolphins are putting up half the cost, and there is a positive and big economic impact for South Florida, and there is no doubt that we get a Super Bowl, and let's not forget the BCS title game will now be in play for bidding like a Super Bowl. Economically it just makes sense.
 
IF this renovations happens SLS will require UM to extend the contract further putting our own stadium out of reach. Unless Miami has a back to back 3-4 NC's our own stadium is out of question.

We simply do not have the local following that state schools do.
 
IF this renovations happens SLS will require UM to extend the contract further putting our own stadium out of reach. Unless Miami has a back to back 3-4 NC's our own stadium is out of question.

We simply do not have the local following that state schools do.

Then you put in a buyout provision or opt-out provision.
 
First and foremost, I will preface this by saying that since the age of 3 and that was in 1978, I have been a season ticket holder with my dad for both Dolphins and Canes games, I have had the joy and honor of experiencing the OB and some of the best games ever there, as well as enjoyed Joe Robbie Stadium, I will always call it that, he deserves it, he paid for it with no public money, and at the time the stadium WAS A MODEL FOR ALL OTHERS. With that said there were some design issues with JRS that impacted the football experience, but as some here have had the audacity to call it a dump, is preposterous and insulting and unfair. First off, the renovations would in fact turn the stadium back to state of the art, as the infrastructure is in place, secondly, the issue here was when the stadium was built, Joe Robbie envisioned bringing a baseball team and soccer events to Miami, but to do that the design of the stadium forced the seating to be further away from the field, and thus taking away that advantage of the crowd. But to his credit it did bring baseball to South Florida.

On another note, this attack on the stadium because of location. First I will preface this by stating I am a Miami boy, but for those knocking the location, your foolish and clearly don't see the big picture, and like most who I have discussed this with are from Miami and nowhere else. The fact is JRS is perfectly situated, you have access from all over, the 826, I95, The Turnpike, a variety of ways that allow for traffic to be minimal and to flow and not stay stagnant. Secondly, guess what this nonsense of the majority of fans are in Miami, is exactly that nonsense. There are tons of fans in Broward and Palm Beach, the stadium allows both teams to have excellent access to South Florida fans, not just fans in Miami. When running a program you must hve the ability to look at the big picture and to access all avenues, the Miami Hurricanes have fans in Miami Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, plent of them, it is good business to tap into all of them, JRS provides that the best, and unless we were to have an on campus stadium, which will never happen in Coral Gables, than a stadium that allows you to tap into the whole market is the smart business move.

Third, enough with this nonsense of us leaving the OB, folks, the City of Miami screwed the pooch on this one, and they allowed the OB to get run down, the plan was always to remove the old girl and build a baseball stadium, the University had no choice but to move to JRS.

The fact of the matter is this thing about having their own stadium, though would be nice no doubt, is no big deal. The Canes have always played in a stadium that wasn't theirs and still won, they always had the bs argument of other schools and their facilities while we don't and still won, the Dolphins have won at Joe Robbie at times without the home field crowd advantage, and do you know why? Because they were more talented that year!! This nonsense of advantage, is bs, field a more talented team and it doesn't matter where you play. Now with the proposed new improvements, the seats will be moved in, creating that crowd advantage, the stadium technologically will be up to date, with the canopy and new design the University will be playing in the most bad *** looking stadium, that is also a pro team stadium (selling point to recruits) in all of college football. With the seats being moved in closer to the field, we will have that home field advantage.

And also folks, especially in today's age where public funding is into play, at least the Dolphins are putting up half the cost, and there is a positive and big economic impact for South Florida, and there is no doubt that we get a Super Bowl, and let's not forget the BCS title game will now be in play for bidding like a Super Bowl. Economically it just makes sense.


Agree with much of the first half of your post, the rest not so much.

In reference to your last statement, this situation is unique because the stadium+surrounding land is privately owned; this is not a public+private partnership, just a venture that greatly benefits the privately owned corp. But even if you understand this, I'm sure you do, how does it make sense economically?
 
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people just wait and see how SLS is improved if improved. we dont have to pay for any of the upkeep of the stadium that we would have to for our own stadium. btw all you wishing for an on campus stadium, you realize there is no room and even if there was, we wouldnt be allowed to drink in it like we were able to at the OB and currently at SLS. the only viable site is tropical park and unless all you people complaining r willing to put up 100-200k (total so figure around at least a couple grand to 10k from each person since not every hurricane fan is apart of the hurricane club), it wont happen. not to mention, you have to purchase the land from Miami Dade County if you want to own it otherwise we would have to convince miami dade to tear down the park and build a stadium and show where it would benefit them (6 home games a year is not a benefit to them). location wise, SLS is perfect for people coming from everywhere as someone mentioned above
 
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If the Canes deserve a place of their own, then they will build a place. It ain't happening.

If they move the seats closer and have most everyone in the lower bowl, I think the game day experience will be improved. If the team can win and get 50k per game, the stadium won't be an issue.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Think long term.

Why can Tulane and Baylor do it? We have more TOTAL students then both of those schools, we have more tradition and we deserve it.

The problem is there is no plan, we know we have to build the stadium but there is no serious drive to do so. All this BS about fixing SLS is irrelevant to me because we still will be playing in Miami Gardens in a place that is not ours. SLS is now is terrible, putting a bandaide on it won't help much.

A plan needs to be developed, a plan with a lot of fund raising and and perhaps a debt sale. There is a lot of land in Miami and we own a lot too, nobody intelligent is saying an ON CAMPUS STADIUM...but how about a near campus stadium.

This could be part of a "level the West Grove" project I've been thinking about since graduation
 
IF this renovations happens SLS will require UM to extend the contract further putting our own stadium out of reach. Unless Miami has a back to back 3-4 NC's our own stadium is out of question.

We simply do not have the local following that state schools do.

Then you put in a buyout provision or opt-out provision.

There already is one, specifically for Tropical Park. TIFWIW
 
We need to win 10 games. We get back on top and we will sell out the big games. No reason to tarp a huge portion of the stadium
 
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miami never sold out every home game. we will always have small crowds for the bethunes, famus, etc. it is what it is. even UF didnt sell out their crap home games (look at the attendance figures for their big home games and their bad ones) and they have a 50k student population, large fan base (those alums travel in every weekend), and were a top 5 team for the majority of the season. even in 01 miami wasnt selling out troy and those games. the difference is tho we will get larger share of fans attending for the reg ACC home games if we start winning again. miami is an event town and u need to be successful to make the games an event for people to attend (see Miami Basketball, Marlins playoff games, Heat attendance in good years vs bad years, Dolphins dont count bc for the most part they have the most loyal fan base in the area and largest percentages of diehards). also many people dont realize but there are a lot of people who live in South Florida that graduated from UF, FSU (1/3 of those schools (or more) r from the 305,954,561. Miami's alumni base is spread out and is not very large (when i was at UM, most of my friends i made there are either from elsewhere and went home or have left SFL upon graduation (jobs, grad schools, etc). the stadium isnt holding people back from attending (the rock got 75k in SLS for wrestlemania lol), the last 10 years of misery is preventing people from showing up. to add on, if u look at our attendance figures from the end of the oB era to the beginning SLS, there is actually an increase in avg attendance at SLS from the end of the OB
 
First and foremost, I will preface this by saying that since the age of 3 and that was in 1978, I have been a season ticket holder with my dad for both Dolphins and Canes games, I have had the joy and honor of experiencing the OB and some of the best games ever there, as well as enjoyed Joe Robbie Stadium, I will always call it that, he deserves it, he paid for it with no public money, and at the time the stadium WAS A MODEL FOR ALL OTHERS. With that said there were some design issues with JRS that impacted the football experience, but as some here have had the audacity to call it a dump, is preposterous and insulting and unfair. First off, the renovations would in fact turn the stadium back to state of the art, as the infrastructure is in place, secondly, the issue here was when the stadium was built, Joe Robbie envisioned bringing a baseball team and soccer events to Miami, but to do that the design of the stadium forced the seating to be further away from the field, and thus taking away that advantage of the crowd. But to his credit it did bring baseball to South Florida.

On another note, this attack on the stadium because of location. First I will preface this by stating I am a Miami boy, but for those knocking the location, your foolish and clearly don't see the big picture, and like most who I have discussed this with are from Miami and nowhere else. The fact is JRS is perfectly situated, you have access from all over, the 826, I95, The Turnpike, a variety of ways that allow for traffic to be minimal and to flow and not stay stagnant. Secondly, guess what this nonsense of the majority of fans are in Miami, is exactly that nonsense. There are tons of fans in Broward and Palm Beach, the stadium allows both teams to have excellent access to South Florida fans, not just fans in Miami. When running a program you must hve the ability to look at the big picture and to access all avenues, the Miami Hurricanes have fans in Miami Dade, Broward and Palm Beach, plent of them, it is good business to tap into all of them, JRS provides that the best, and unless we were to have an on campus stadium, which will never happen in Coral Gables, than a stadium that allows you to tap into the whole market is the smart business move.

Third, enough with this nonsense of us leaving the OB, folks, the City of Miami screwed the pooch on this one, and they allowed the OB to get run down, the plan was always to remove the old girl and build a baseball stadium, the University had no choice but to move to JRS.

The fact of the matter is this thing about having their own stadium, though would be nice no doubt, is no big deal. The Canes have always played in a stadium that wasn't theirs and still won, they always had the bs argument of other schools and their facilities while we don't and still won, the Dolphins have won at Joe Robbie at times without the home field crowd advantage, and do you know why? Because they were more talented that year!! This nonsense of advantage, is bs, field a more talented team and it doesn't matter where you play. Now with the proposed new improvements, the seats will be moved in, creating that crowd advantage, the stadium technologically will be up to date, with the canopy and new design the University will be playing in the most bad *** looking stadium, that is also a pro team stadium (selling point to recruits) in all of college football. With the seats being moved in closer to the field, we will have that home field advantage.

And also folks, especially in today's age where public funding is into play, at least the Dolphins are putting up half the cost, and there is a positive and big economic impact for South Florida, and there is no doubt that we get a Super Bowl, and let's not forget the BCS title game will now be in play for bidding like a Super Bowl. Economically it just makes sense.


Agree with much of the first half of your post, the rest not so much.

In reference to your last statement, this situation is unique because the stadium+surrounding land is privately owned; this is not a public+private partnership, just a venture that greatly benefits the privately owned corp. But even if you understand this, I'm sure you do, how does it make sense economically?

True that the land is privately owned, and I am not for public funding, which is contrary to the pros that I am laying out for funding, I know doesn't make sense. But that is due to the fact, that I believe this is going to take place regardless, and if it is at least let there be valid reasons for it. And in this case there is, there is no debating the economic impact that a Super Bowl brings to a city, the studies have shown that tourists that come during a Super Bowl spend twice as much a day as they do when there is no Super Bowl in South Florida, now those against will point out that with our without the SB, Miami still had 80% occupancy during SB weekend. Forget about that, the fact still remains that during that weekend, if Miami is still bringing those tourists regardless of a SB, that means they will be here as well as those that come for the SB. Studies have shown that a SB brings roughly 400 million dollars to the area, lets for arguments sake cut it in half, one SB brings in 200 million you have already made back your investment, Miami alongside with New Orleans is a preferred destination for the NFL, it is why they have hosted the most. These renovations guarantees multiple SB's, and the second time we host the SB the county is in the black and in pure profit. What people don't understand here is the privately owned corp. The Dolphins, they profit from a SB regardless as the NFL shares those revenues with all the teams, they do not profit more from hosting it. Now this is just hosting a Super Bowl and the dollars it brings to a community. Add into that the possibility of host a BCS title game, which a newly renovated and up to date stadium in Miami would have a great chance of hosting. That is where from a public funding aspect it makes sense economically, the public is investing 200 million to garner events that will pour twice as much when they come. And in this case there is historical precedent to assume they will come.
 
They can put lipstick all over this pig all they want but the fundamental problem with SLS (if we're generous enough to ignore the location) is that the upper decks are about 3 miles away from the field. Besides it hurting the fan experience for anyone sitting there it kills the atmosphere.

Unless they are moving them in, which I assume they aren't (might as well build a new stadium) then this is just going to be another $8000 Miami Honda Civic with a $20,000 stero system.
 
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I'd like to see the quote from Blake because I don't believe he said that. The renovations would only reduce capacity from present 75k to 69k.

Read on another board per AD Blake, that if the renovations become reality, SLS could become a 50k seat venue for UM games! Would be cool for all of.us to be able.to sit lower bowl. I live in Orlando and look forward to those trips down south to the Mecca. Hope evedyone gets a chance to make games this year!
 
They can put lipstick all over this pig all they want but the fundamental problem with SLS (if we're generous enough to ignore the location) is that the upper decks are about 3 miles away from the field. Besides it hurting the fan experience for anyone sitting there it kills the atmosphere.

Unless they are moving them in, which I assume they aren't (might as well build a new stadium) then this is just going to be another $8000 Miami Honda Civic with a $20,000 stero system.

The location is perfect, that stadium is centrally located to ALL fan bases in South Florida, and no it's not just fans from Miami that go to the games. Location is perfect and access to the stadium is better than anywhere we can think of in Miami. And as per the renderings and the firm and Mike Dee, they are moving the seats closer to the field. They have acknowledged that as an issue that needs to be addressed and that will be with this renovation.
 
Read on another board per AD Blake, that if the renovations become reality, SLS could become a 50k seat venue for UM games! Would be cool for all of.us to be able.to sit lower bowl. I live in Orlando and look forward to those trips down south to the Mecca. Hope evedyone gets a chance to make games this year!


To the Mecca? No. Just no. You shoul be banned for calling Sun Life Stadium our Mecca tbh.

RIPOB.
 
They can put lipstick all over this pig all they want but the fundamental problem with SLS (if we're generous enough to ignore the location) is that the upper decks are about 3 miles away from the field. Besides it hurting the fan experience for anyone sitting there it kills the atmosphere.

Unless they are moving them in, which I assume they aren't (might as well build a new stadium) then this is just going to be another $8000 Miami Honda Civic with a $20,000 stero system.

The location is perfect, that stadium is centrally located to ALL fan bases in South Florida, and no it's not just fans from Miami that go to the games. Location is perfect and access to the stadium is better than anywhere we can think of in Miami. And as per the renderings and the firm and Mike Dee, they are moving the seats closer to the field. They have acknowledged that as an issue that needs to be addressed and that will be with this renovation.

No mass transit and its out in the sticks and very far from campus. Why do you thing the Marlins were so hungry for a more urban site?

As for the seats, are they moving the first 10 rows closer (basically adding seats)? Or moving the entire upper deck closer to the field? Because its the former, it means nothing. Moving the uppers is probably harder than building a news stadium so unless you can show me a quote where they commit to that specifically, I'd be hard pressed to believe it.
 
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