Stephen Morris's 2 Touchdowns..... Crazy

[cane33]

S. Morris always hits guys in stride, the 1st interception looked like he didnt get a lot on the throw, very unusual for him which led me to thinking that his ankle was bothering him again.

Which he was limping seriously after the scramble earlier in the game.

Stephen , no offense but a qb that completes less than 60% can't possibly ALWAYS hit players in stride. Unless you mean of the percent that he completes. You aren't as bad as you have looked this season and I have no doubt that your injury has caused some of these issues. With that said if we could have swapped you for Winston last night , miami would have won. By the way were happy with the way Winston played?

LOL So you believe Stephen Morris was the single most important reason why Miami lost last night?

**** ur stupid if u think that.

and what does hitting players in stride have to do w/ his completion percentage?

Defense didn't play well but still held a top 5 offense to the least points it has scored all season. Duke **** near rushed for 100+ in just three quarters. QB Play was the most glaring weakness preventing us from making the game competitive.

We lose regardless but with a good QB this game would have been A LOT closer. So yes....Stephen Morris was the biggest reason why we could not compete with them.

 

[Loafers]

S. Morris always hits guys in stride, the 1st interception looked like he didnt get a lot on the throw, very unusual for him which led me to thinking that his ankle was bothering him again.

Which he was limping seriously after the scramble earlier in the game.

Stephen , no offense but a qb that completes less than 60% can't possibly ALWAYS hit players in stride. Unless you mean of the percent that he completes. You aren't as bad as you have looked this season and I have no doubt that your injury has caused some of these issues. With that said if we could have swapped you for Winston last night , miami would have won. By the way were happy with the way Winston played?

LOL So you believe Stephen Morris was the single most important reason why Miami lost last night?

**** ur stupid if u think that.

and what does hitting players in stride have to do w/ his completion percentage?

We'll if as you said he always hits his players in stride this would assume by any logical standard that the qb was extremely accurate. A sub 60% says otherwise. Elite college qbs are well above this number. This would be akin to someone saying a gun always hits the bullseye but misses the target completely 40% of the time. Or as lee Trevino always said 90% of putts that don't make it to the hole don't go in. As for Morris v Winston being the biggest most important difference in the game, yes I absolutely believe that. An elite qb makes a huge difference. What do u think fuss defensive gameplay was last night. I will give u a hint, his initials were SM and it was along the lines of make him beat you. Conversely, what was miamis dc gameplan. Don't let Winston beat us. Do you see the difference and how that strategy on both sides impacts more than just the play of those two players. I'm not one of these people looking to bash Morris but it is what it.is

 

[decleated]

Losing Dorsett was a huge loss for the Canes, Morris and him had their timing down perfect this year..

 

[zone3cane]

No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..

What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?

because winston has completed 70% of his passes on the year to go along with 24 TDs against 6 INTs despite playing a lackluster game against us, whereas morris is throwing 60% for 12 TDs and 10 INTs. oh and winston is a freshman in his 8th career game whereas morris is a senior with over 20 starts under his belt. look, i'm a huge morris critic and i acknowledge that those touchdown passes, along with those 3rd-and-longs that he converted were incredible throws. the touchdown at the end of the first half is a throw that some nfl quarterbacks can't make. the problem is that he isn't consistent. after going 3 and out, our defense was on the field for a long 80+ yard drive and he gives it right back to fsu on the next offense snap. game was over after that.

the main problem is Winston is going to get the ball a **** of a lot more then Morris... defense effects the offense. FSU's defense get's off the field on 3rd downs all season, Miami's defense doesnt get off the field all season.

Which means more possessions for Winston and less possessions for Morris..... also to act like the ankle injury which has to do w/ his Achilles, has nothing to do w/ Morris's numbers this year is ridiculous.

Jameis Winston wouldnt look the same on 1 leg either.

Is he an Elite QB, NO, but Morris is a good qb though.

 

[zone3cane]

Defense didn't play well but still held a top 5 offense to the least points it has scored all season. Duke **** near rushed for 100+ in just three quarters. QB Play was the most glaring weakness preventing us from making the game competitive.

We lose regardless but with a good QB this game would have been A LOT closer. So yes....Stephen Morris was the biggest reason why we could not compete with them.

what?... FSU scored 41 on Pitt 2

The defense went 11-15 on 3rd down conversions and had FSU's offense on the field for 40 minutes.

They played hard but they were helpless 90% of the game. They were the main reason we lost. FSU only scored 41 points b/c they made an adjustment and went w/ the run game and the short passing game to kill us instead of 1 play TD passes deep. Miami's defense didnt do anything besides play hard.

Stephen Morris was the reason there were any points on the scoreboard.

Duke didnt score any, the great Clive Walford didnt score any.... the defense didnt score any or STs.

 

[dookie blaylock]

No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..

What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?

because winston has completed 70% of his passes on the year to go along with 24 TDs against 6 INTs despite playing a lackluster game against us, whereas morris is throwing 60% for 12 TDs and 10 INTs. oh and winston is a freshman in his 8th career game whereas morris is a senior with over 20 starts under his belt. look, i'm a huge morris critic and i acknowledge that those touchdown passes, along with those 3rd-and-longs that he converted were incredible throws. the touchdown at the end of the first half is a throw that some nfl quarterbacks can't make. the problem is that he isn't consistent. after going 3 and out, our defense was on the field for a long 80+ yard drive and he gives it right back to fsu on the next offense snap. game was over after that.

the main problem is Winston is going to get the ball a **** of a lot more then Morris... defense effects the offense. FSU's defense get's off the field on 3rd downs all season, Miami's defense doesnt get off the field all season.

Which means more possessions for Winston and less possessions for Morris..... also to act like the ankle injury which has to do w/ his Achilles, has nothing to do w/ Morris's numbers this year is ridiculous.

Jameis Winston wouldnt look the same on 1 leg either.

Is he an Elite QB, NO, but Morris is a good qb though.

if you're only going by this game, winston vs morris was a wash, as both were pedestrian. almost 100 of winston's passing yards were dump-offs and a long screen to freeman. his interceptions kept us in the first half, but you can't discount his running that extended their drives either. morris played a solid first half, but disappeared in the second. the deep ball to coley that was picked never should have been thrown in the first place. yes, coley should/could have come back to break it up, but morris should know better than to throw a deep ball like that so late.

on the whole, i would call morris average with the occasional elite-phenom throw.

 

[zone3cane]

We'll if as you said he always hits his players in stride this would assume by any logical standard that the qb was extremely accurate. A sub 60% says otherwise. Elite college qbs are well above this number. This would be akin to someone saying a gun always hits the bullseye but misses the target completely 40% of the time. Or as lee Trevino always said 90% of putts that don't make it to the hole don't go in. As for Morris v Winston being the biggest most important difference in the game, yes I absolutely believe that. An elite qb makes a huge difference. What do u think fuss defensive gameplay was last night. I will give u a hint, his initials were SM and it was along the lines of make him beat you. Conversely, what was miamis dc gameplan. Don't let Winston beat us. Do you see the difference and how that strategy on both sides impacts more than just the play of those two players. I'm not one of these people looking to bash Morris but it is what it.is

Jameis Winston on Miami and Morris on FSU.... FSU still wins the game by double digits.

WHY? b/c they have a defense that gets them the ball back and stops teams on 3rd downs.

Winston threw 2 interceptions as well w/ only 1 Passing TD to Devonta Freeman on that bubble screen.... if he did that for us, Miami would only have 1 TD on the scoreboard and everybody would be talking about how much Winston sucks on this site.

 

[Loafers]

No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..

What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?

because winston has completed 70% of his passes on the year to go along with 24 TDs against 6 INTs despite playing a lackluster game against us, whereas morris is throwing 60% for 12 TDs and 10 INTs. oh and winston is a freshman in his 8th career game whereas morris is a senior with over 20 starts under his belt. look, i'm a huge morris critic and i acknowledge that those touchdown passes, along with those 3rd-and-longs that he converted were incredible throws. the touchdown at the end of the first half is a throw that some nfl quarterbacks can't make. the problem is that he isn't consistent. after going 3 and out, our defense was on the field for a long 80+ yard drive and he gives it right back to fsu on the next offense snap. game was over after that.

the main problem is Winston is going to get the ball a **** of a lot more then Morris... defense effects the offense. FSU's defense get's off the field on 3rd downs all season, Miami's defense doesnt get off the field all season.

Which means more possessions for Winston and less possessions for Morris..... also to act like the ankle injury which has to do w/ his Achilles, has nothing to do w/ Morris's numbers this year is ridiculous.

Jameis Winston wouldnt look the same on 1 leg either.

Is he an Elite QB, NO, but Morris is a good qb though.

The problem is that u ignore the reason why our 3rd down conversion rate is low compared to theirs. It's as simple as Winston v Morris. Look at the game last night, Winston was able to feel the pressure alllude it and make plays. Morris holds the ball, doesn't find anyone open and gets sacked. Plus, because of each of their abilities teams gameplan those situations differently. Most teams are terrified to blitz Winston because they feel he will kill them which then leads to him having all day to make an easy throw, the opposite is the approach teams take against Morris. It's easy to look at the end result and come to a conclusion but u need to evaluate the reasons why it occurred. Winston's talent makes that whole team better. Freeman was pedestrian for years and now he is playing. Fisher was never putting up numbers like this with 2 first round qbs. It's Winston.

 

[zone3cane]

The problem is that u ignore the reason why our 3rd down conversion rate is low compared to theirs. It's as simple as Winston v Morris. Look at the game last night, Winston was able to feel the pressure alllude it and make plays. Morris holds the ball, doesn't find anyone open and gets sacked. Plus, because of each of their abilities teams gameplan those situations differently. Most teams are terrified to blitz Winston because they feel he will kill them which then leads to him having all day to make an easy throw, the opposite is the approach teams take against Morris. It's easy to look at the end result and come to a conclusion but u need to evaluate the reasons why it occurred. Winston's talent makes that whole team better. Freeman was pedestrian for years and now he is playing. Fisher was never putting up numbers like this with 2 first round qbs. It's Winston.

completely false..... Devonta Freeman had to wait his turn behind Chris Thompson, he's always been a solid running back. lol u think Winston made him better gtfoh.

FSU had EJ Manuel at QB before him and won the orange bowl last year.... Winston is good at FSU b/c their entire team was already elite before he saw the field this year.

S. Morris took a sack, which was the smartest thing he couldve done on that play. Winston got sacked 1 time too, he makes throws b/c their team is better.

Jameis Winston is definitely a better QB then S. Morris... winston is the #1 QB in the country out of highschool, nobody was sure what Morris was going to do when he got to Miami.

But the point is miami is still going to be 7-1 w/ Winston and FSU is going to be 8-0 w/ Morris.

 

[Loafers]

We'll if as you said he always hits his players in stride this would assume by any logical standard that the qb was extremely accurate. A sub 60% says otherwise. Elite college qbs are well above this number. This would be akin to someone saying a gun always hits the bullseye but misses the target completely 40% of the time. Or as lee Trevino always said 90% of putts that don't make it to the hole don't go in. As for Morris v Winston being the biggest most important difference in the game, yes I absolutely believe that. An elite qb makes a huge difference. What do u think fuss defensive gameplay was last night. I will give u a hint, his initials were SM and it was along the lines of make him beat you. Conversely, what was miamis dc gameplan. Don't let Winston beat us. Do you see the difference and how that strategy on both sides impacts more than just the play of those two players. I'm not one of these people looking to bash Morris but it is what it.is

Jameis Winston on Miami and Morris on FSU.... FSU still wins the game by double digits.

WHY? b/c they have a defense that gets them the ball back and stops teams on 3rd downs.

Winston threw 2 interceptions as well w/ only 1 Passing TD to Devonta Freeman on that bubble screen.... if he did that for us, Miami would only have 1 TD on the scoreboard and everybody would be talking about how much Winston sucks on this site.

Do you really think I meant taking their stats and switching them to the other team. Smh. Do u know why the flats and dump offs were opem, it's because we we dropping guys to stop him from just going deep all game and he ate us up. Our 3rd down conversion rate would have improved and theirs decreased if we switched those two players. Our wars were open all game but Morris either doesn't see them or misses with the exception of him hitting someone in stride.

 

[decleated]

No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..

What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?

because winston has completed 70% of his passes on the year to go along with 24 TDs against 6 INTs despite playing a lackluster game against us, whereas morris is throwing 60% for 12 TDs and 10 INTs. oh and winston is a freshman in his 8th career game whereas morris is a senior with over 20 starts under his belt. look, i'm a huge morris critic and i acknowledge that those touchdown passes, along with those 3rd-and-longs that he converted were incredible throws. the touchdown at the end of the first half is a throw that some nfl quarterbacks can't make. the problem is that he isn't consistent. after going 3 and out, our defense was on the field for a long 80+ yard drive and he gives it right back to fsu on the next offense snap. game was over after that.

the main problem is Winston is going to get the ball a **** of a lot more then Morris... defense effects the offense. FSU's defense get's off the field on 3rd downs all season, Miami's defense doesnt get off the field all season.

Which means more possessions for Winston and less possessions for Morris..... also to act like the ankle injury which has to do w/ his Achilles, has nothing to do w/ Morris's numbers this year is ridiculous.

Jameis Winston wouldnt look the same on 1 leg either.

Is he an Elite QB, NO, but Morris is a good qb though.

Did you know that Morris and Winston both average 26 attempts per game?
Did you know that Winston had 1 more attempt then Morris in this game?
One QB completed 72% of his passes while the other completed 57% of his passes..
It's easy to blame the defense but what killed those drives for the offense?
How was our 3rd conversions compared to the Noles?

 

[streetja]

Clearly you know something that not even the miami coaches don't know.

Have you noticed how Coley is completely dependent on the running game and not Morris? All we do is run now, if Morris was half the qb you think he is the coaches would have a lot more faith in him and throw more. Instead, because the coaches don't see what you're seeing, Duke is getting 30 touches a game like last week against Wake. Which btw should not happen, a UM team shouldn't have a qb be their last resort against a team like Wake, but it happened last week.

And while you're at it, throw some youtube videos of Morris missing Coley twice and missing Waters in the second half too...

 

[decleated]

...for the record I like Morris!

 

[kendallcanes]

I think if you give Morris the WR corp we had to start the season and a healthy ankle, we would be having an entirely different discussion. Right now, he cannot move confidently in the pocket, he cannot run for first downs, and he doesn't have a favorite target on the field.

 

[zone3cane]

Did you know that Morris and Winston both average 26 attempts per game?
Did you know that Winston had 1 more attempt then Morris in this game?
One QB completed 72% of his passes while the other completed 57% of his passes..
It's easy to blame the defense but what killed those drives for the offense?
How was our 3rd conversions compared to the Noles?

The 3rd down conversions compared to the Noles were lopsided b/c of the 2 defenses.

Miami was actually good on 3rd down conversions against FSU... 4-12 (33%)the entire game but it was closer to 50% until the game got out of hand. UM alsp converted 1-3 on 4th downs. Only one of the 4th down attempts was when Miami was still in the game.

FSU went 11-15 on 3rd down conversions against UM.... if Miami's defense could have got that number down to just 7-15 (which is still high), thats 4 extra possessions this offense couldve had to put points on the board.

 

[zone3cane]

Clearly you know something that not even the miami coaches don't know.

Have you noticed how Coley is completely dependent on the running game and not Morris? All we do is run now, if Morris was half the qb you think he is the coaches would have a lot more faith in him and throw more. Instead, because the coaches don't see what you're seeing, Duke is getting 30 touches a game like last week against Wake. Which btw should not happen, a UM team shouldn't have a qb be their last resort against a team like Wake, but it happened last week.

And while you're at it, throw some youtube videos of Morris missing Coley twice and missing Waters in the second half too...

one of the misses to S. Coley was on him not Morris, he tried catching the ball w/ 1 hand instead of 2 going down the sideline.

Also Miami is a balanced offense, not a spread offense.... FSU ran the ball more then Miami did.

 

[streetja]

you're delusional, you should be Morris' agent when he *tries* to make it in the league because no one in the world has more excuses for him more than you.

Note how I did not even bring up the FSU game when talking about all the touches Duke got, it was against WAKE FOREST, the calibre of qb you think we have in Morris would have had a FIELD DAY against Wake... but no.... we limited our amazing qb more than I can ever recall because the man is a handicap to our team.

But how can I possibly knock some sense into a guy that thinks Morris is a semi decent player after what we all saw against North Carolina.

 

[@KingLew88]

Is this dude in here defending morris. Ive seen it all now. Blaming the defense for being on the field for 40 mins but ignoring its because morris can't put drives together to save his life. Its a long pass or its nothing. This man had duke wide open and took a ******* sack. The int to Coley was horrible if you going to miss the wr you overthrow him. He also missed Coley earlier when he threw the ball to the inside when Coley was clearly open to the outside. Its so many times the pocket is clean and he's still all happy feet and doing dumb ****. I can't wait until this dude is gone I thank Randy now for burning his RS because I can't take another yr of this. I would've benched morris weeks ago and went with Williams

 

[The Franchise]

Two perfect passes, zone. Not sure anyone disputes his ability to make an occasional phenomenal throw. In fact, it's that ability that probably has people most frustrated with him. We see his ability to make throws that very few guys can make. Then, we see him fall apart. If the game was just about who made the two best passes in the game then we would have won. Unfortunately, there were 70 other plays.

 

[The Franchise]

Losing Dorsett was a huge loss for the Canes, Morris and him had their timing down perfect this year..

This seems to be a new movement. But I think it's fable. Coley was open for a long TD, and Morris just underthrew him. That's got nothing to do with Dorsett being injured.