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Lets talk about it.....

The 1st TD critics are going to say it was a deep ball and that's nothing. Well if you pay attention you will see how elite that play was.

For one, an FSU d-lineman was all in his face. second) Hurns ran a beautiful route. 3rd and most importantly) FSU's DB PJ Williams was still step for step w/ Hurns but Morris still was able to throw the ball perfectly and with enough velocity where the DB didnt have time to react.

The 2nd TD.... Hurns made a great catch, but Morris put the ball on the money. If that play was a little bit over to the right it couldve been intercepted or batted away.... if the ball was a half an inch over to the left Hurns would've caught it out of bounds.

Those are eilte as it gets..... strong arm means nothing if you dont have accuracy and if you think Morris isnt accurate then you are blind.

Thoughts?
 
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No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
A great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..
 
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The story of Stephen Morris's career... Can make all the throws in the world, but can never do it with consistency.
 
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I am still struggling on the almost 3rd TD that turned into a INT
(The pass to Coley)...I am confused why Stephen did not Air
that one out it was a TD in the making ...that INT changed the complex of the entire game
 
datdude81 said:
I am still struggling on the almost 3rd TD that turned into a INT
(The pass to Coley)...I am confused why Stephen did not Air
that one out it was a TD in the making ...that INT changed the complex of the entire game
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Coley could have play defender instead he knew the ball was short and gave up..
 
Part of that is that Coley is young, When your a rocket armed Senior you know that ball is either where only your guy can get it or over the end zone, it was under thrown, he does not try to hit guys in stride, he tries to make it all happen with his arm. I agree with the theory that he should have better pocket presence by now. Not tuck and run but sliding and trusting your linemen and staying in there and making the easy throw or throwing it away.

On one sack he made three reads then tucked it and took the sack when he very easily could've just thrown it away. He did not throw a pass away until the 4:00 left in the 4th....
 
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S. Morris always hits guys in stride, the 1st interception looked like he didnt get a lot on the throw, very unusual for him which led me to thinking that his ankle was bothering him again.

Which he was limping seriously after the scramble earlier in the game.
 
canesupremacy said:
The 2nd ball was tipped into Hurns's hands. That is luck.
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no it wasnt..... Morris put it to where the DB couldnt knock the ball off it's "trajectory" enough to disrupt the play.

if Morris threw it anywhere to the left or right the ball wouldve been out of bounds or deflected completely.
 
decleated said:
No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..
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What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?
 
hes inconsistent and locks on to his receiver. he's also not very accurate on shorts and intermediate throws which r crucial to sustain drives. no one is doubting his arm strength zone.
 
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hoops156 said:
hes inconsistent and locks on to his receiver. he's also not very accurate on shorts and intermediate throws which r crucial to sustain drives. no one is doubting his arm strength zone.
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why does everyone think arm strength is the only thing that matters w/ in regards to the 2 TD plays he's made or other TD's he's thrown before?

Even w/ arm strength you have to be accurate, the **** isnt luck. Logan Thomas has a strong arm but isnt accurate at throwing the ball anywhere on the field deep or short.

S. Morris was hitting Walford on short routes all game.... i think the topic of Morris not being accurate on short and intermediate throws is vastly overblown.
 
zone3cane said:
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Those are eilte as it gets..... strong arm means nothing if you dont have accuracy and if you think Morris isnt accurate then you are blind.

Thoughts?
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:ibisroflmao:

Gotta be trolling. LOL @ Morris and "elite" in the same sentence.

Picking two particular highlights of him making accurate throws doesn't make him an accurate QB.


I can go and find two Youtube clips of Tebow making accurate throws too and that doesn't make him an accurate QB either.
 
zone3cane said:
S. Morris always hits guys in stride, the 1st interception looked like he didnt get a lot on the throw, very unusual for him which led me to thinking that his ankle was bothering him again.

Which he was limping seriously after the scramble earlier in the game.
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Stephen , no offense but a qb that completes less than 60% can't possibly ALWAYS hit players in stride. Unless you mean of the percent that he completes. You aren't as bad as you have looked this season and I have no doubt that your injury has caused some of these issues. With that said if we could have swapped you for Winston last night , miami would have won. By the way were happy with the way Winston played?
 
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jbryant62 said:
zone3cane said:
S. Morris always hits guys in stride, the 1st interception looked like he didnt get a lot on the throw, very unusual for him which led me to thinking that his ankle was bothering him again.

Which he was limping seriously after the scramble earlier in the game.
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Stephen , no offense but a qb that completes less than 60% can't possibly ALWAYS hit players in stride. Unless you mean of the percent that he completes. You aren't as bad as you have looked this season and I have no doubt that your injury has caused some of these issues. With that said if we could have swapped you for Winston last night , miami would have won. By the way were happy with the way Winston played?
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LOL So you believe Stephen Morris was the single most important reason why Miami lost last night?

**** ur stupid if u think that.

and what does hitting players in stride have to do w/ his completion percentage?
 
Morris' best throws are generally deep and to the sidelines. The problem is he lacks consistency and struggles to put drives together because teams know what he does well. He struggles in the middle of the field and short. You aren't always going to get the big play. There are times where the check down is there and he keeps looking downfield. The sack Mario Edwards had last night Duke was open underneath but he wanted something downfield instead. You have to be able to consistently put drives together against elite teams and Morris has never shown he can do that. Looks great for a quarter or half and then very average after that.
 
zone3cane said:
decleated said:
No one is questioning Morris arm strength, he can throw the ball on a rope..
Consistency is the issue with Morris along with his pocket presence..
Morris is not the smartest QB out there and makes dumb decisions when he is pressured..
I great O-Line is what he needs to cover up those issues, right now his weaknesses are being expose..
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What's the difference between his 2 interceptions and Jameis Winston's?

Why is 1 QB considered a good QB but can throw interceptions while S. Morris doesnt have that luxury?
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because winston has completed 70% of his passes on the year to go along with 24 TDs against 6 INTs despite playing a lackluster game against us, whereas morris is throwing 60% for 12 TDs and 10 INTs. oh and winston is a freshman in his 8th career game whereas morris is a senior with over 20 starts under his belt. look, i'm a huge morris critic and i acknowledge that those touchdown passes, along with those 3rd-and-longs that he converted were incredible throws. the touchdown at the end of the first half is a throw that some nfl quarterbacks can't make. the problem is that he isn't consistent. after going 3 and out, our defense was on the field for a long 80+ yard drive and he gives it right back to fsu on the next offense snap. game was over after that.
 
moshated305 said:
Morris' best throws are generally deep and to the sidelines. The problem is he lacks consistency and struggles to put drives together because teams know what he does well. He struggles in the middle of the field and short. You aren't always going to get the big play. There are times where the check down is there and he keeps looking downfield. The sack Mario Edwards had last night Duke was open underneath but he wanted something downfield instead. You have to be able to consistently put drives together against elite teams and Morris has never shown he can do that. Looks great for a quarter or half and then very average after that.
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S. Morris was checking down all game against FSU..... Clive Walford made the catch but since it took him 10 seconds to secure the ball he couldnt move up the field to extend the drive.

But i'm not blaming anything on Clive Walford either..... it's too much pressure on an offense to have to be perfect on every drive against an elite defense b/c they know they arent going to get the ball back.

When S. Morris only gets the ball 1 time a quarter then his mistakes are magnified in comparison to Jameis Winston who can throw 2 interceptions and in 3 minutes is going to get the ball right back.

He threw 2 TDs on Jameis Winston's 2 interceptions.... if winston doesnt throw those picks, Morris doesnt even get the ball in time to score especially the 2nd one b/c the defense cant stop anybody on 3rd down.
 
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