Staff Changes Delay The Inevitable

People are just terrified of change when in reality, you can look around and see tons of examples of how things really can get fixed quick, especially when you have talent.

People are acting like this is the best we can do. Defeatist.

Why don't you give some of these examples that you are referring to. Preferably ones that fit our current situation of lack of funds, lack of fan support, lack of big dollar boosters that can bail us out of a bad contract. I am sure that you can come with some as there are "tons" to choose from.
 
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People are just terrified of change when in reality, you can look around and see tons of examples of how things really can get fixed quick, especially when you have talent.

People are acting like this is the best we can do. Defeatist.

Why don't you give some of these examples that you are referring to. Preferably ones that fit our current situation of lack of funds, lack of fan support, lack of big dollar boosters that can bail us out of a bad contract. I am sure that you can come with some as there are "tons" to choose from.

Honest question. Does anyone really know our money situation? I mean I know it isn't Texas, but I don't think its as dire as some make it seem. I know its "us against the world" but we aren't playing without some ammo.
 
Let's just say when you start talking **** about post counts and people living in their parents basements....blah blah blah.....your feelings are invalid, even if you seem hellbent on pumping out the same rainbow colored happy horse**** we have been listening to for two years now.

You must have problems with reading comprehension. I don't recall posting any rainbow colored happy horse**** about the program. I don't even know what that is. All I did was state the obvious that most of don't want to acknowledge and that is that Golden isn't going anywhere no matter how much the fans **** and moan about it. So what MY OPINION for the best plan of attack is to pay good money for a high quality DC, give him the reigns, and let Golden concentrate on the the things that he does well. That doesn't mean that I would be opposed to hiring Saban away from Bama, I am just very much certain that isn't going to happen. The AD needs to figure out a way to make the best of the current situation we are in.

Rather than blasting others for their opinions why don't you offer one up. What realistic avenue would you suggest we take? Let's see if NVA CANE will like that post also.

Take you own advice. Reading comprehension. You sure as **** don't have to look far to get my opinion.

I'm not holding your ****ing hand.

So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.
 
Let's just say when you start talking **** about post counts and people living in their parents basements....blah blah blah.....your feelings are invalid, even if you seem hellbent on pumping out the same rainbow colored happy horse**** we have been listening to for two years now.

You must have problems with reading comprehension. I don't recall posting any rainbow colored happy horse**** about the program. I don't even know what that is. All I did was state the obvious that most of don't want to acknowledge and that is that Golden isn't going anywhere no matter how much the fans **** and moan about it. So what MY OPINION for the best plan of attack is to pay good money for a high quality DC, give him the reigns, and let Golden concentrate on the the things that he does well. That doesn't mean that I would be opposed to hiring Saban away from Bama, I am just very much certain that isn't going to happen. The AD needs to figure out a way to make the best of the current situation we are in.

Rather than blasting others for their opinions why don't you offer one up. What realistic avenue would you suggest we take? Let's see if NVA CANE will like that post also.

Take you own advice. Reading comprehension. You sure as **** don't have to look far to get my opinion.

I'm not holding your ****ing hand.

So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.
 
People are just terrified of change when in reality, you can look around and see tons of examples of how things really can get fixed quick, especially when you have talent.

People are acting like this is the best we can do. Defeatist.

Why don't you give some of these examples that you are referring to. Preferably ones that fit our current situation of lack of funds, lack of fan support, lack of big dollar boosters that can bail us out of a bad contract. I am sure that you can come with some as there are "tons" to choose from.

Honest question. Does anyone really know our money situation? I mean I know it isn't Texas, but I don't think its as dire as some make it seem. I know its "us against the world" but we aren't playing without some ammo.

Honest answer. Nope. I don't want to have to hold your ******* hand but I referenced the fact that I as well as nobody else on this board has any idea what the athletic dept. budget is at UM. You have to generate an opinion based on past hires and contracts that have been given to people.
 
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People are just terrified of change when in reality, you can look around and see tons of examples of how things really can get fixed quick, especially when you have talent.

People are acting like this is the best we can do. Defeatist.

Why don't you give some of these examples that you are referring to. Preferably ones that fit our current situation of lack of funds, lack of fan support, lack of big dollar boosters that can bail us out of a bad contract. I am sure that you can come with some as there are "tons" to choose from.

Honest question. Does anyone really know our money situation? I mean I know it isn't Texas, but I don't think its as dire as some make it seem. I know its "us against the world" but we aren't playing without some ammo.

Honest answer. Nope. I don't want to have to hold your ******* hand but I referenced the fact that I as well as nobody else on this board has any idea what the athletic dept. budget is at UM. You have to generate an opinion based on past hires and contracts that have been given to people.

Unfortunately, I have to agree here. I've laid out my exact thoughts on Golden and I'm not going round and round about it when you clearly have skimmed over it and prefer to stick me in the over-reactive group.
 
Let's just say when you start talking **** about post counts and people living in their parents basements....blah blah blah.....your feelings are invalid, even if you seem hellbent on pumping out the same rainbow colored happy horse**** we have been listening to for two years now.

You must have problems with reading comprehension. I don't recall posting any rainbow colored happy horse**** about the program. I don't even know what that is. All I did was state the obvious that most of don't want to acknowledge and that is that Golden isn't going anywhere no matter how much the fans **** and moan about it. So what MY OPINION for the best plan of attack is to pay good money for a high quality DC, give him the reigns, and let Golden concentrate on the the things that he does well. That doesn't mean that I would be opposed to hiring Saban away from Bama, I am just very much certain that isn't going to happen. The AD needs to figure out a way to make the best of the current situation we are in.

Rather than blasting others for their opinions why don't you offer one up. What realistic avenue would you suggest we take? Let's see if NVA CANE will like that post also.

Take you own advice. Reading comprehension. You sure as **** don't have to look far to get my opinion.

I'm not holding your ****ing hand.

So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?
 
You must have problems with reading comprehension. I don't recall posting any rainbow colored happy horse**** about the program. I don't even know what that is. All I did was state the obvious that most of don't want to acknowledge and that is that Golden isn't going anywhere no matter how much the fans **** and moan about it. So what MY OPINION for the best plan of attack is to pay good money for a high quality DC, give him the reigns, and let Golden concentrate on the the things that he does well. That doesn't mean that I would be opposed to hiring Saban away from Bama, I am just very much certain that isn't going to happen. The AD needs to figure out a way to make the best of the current situation we are in.

Rather than blasting others for their opinions why don't you offer one up. What realistic avenue would you suggest we take? Let's see if NVA CANE will like that post also.

Take you own advice. Reading comprehension. You sure as **** don't have to look far to get my opinion.

I'm not holding your ****ing hand.

So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****** luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.
 
Take you own advice. Reading comprehension. You sure as **** don't have to look far to get my opinion.

I'm not holding your ****ing hand.

So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****ty luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.

Which is what I was doing. Are you saying that you were ok with WhatTheHell calling somebody a simpleton and a natural born loser but you aren't ok with me calling him out on it? I pretty much agree with most of you post, I was just responding to your attack on me. For the record, please don't ever call me Chief again, I can handle your name calling but don't make a mockery of my heritage.
 
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So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****ty luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.

Which is what I was doing. Are you saying that you were ok with WhatTheHell calling somebody a simpleton and a natural born loser but you aren't ok with me calling him out on it? I pretty much agree with most of you post, I was just responding to your attack on me. For the record, please don't ever call me Chief again, I can handle your name calling but don't make a mockery of my heritage.

Lol not sure if serious. You're mad over someone calling you "chief." :ibisroflmao:
 
So you must be this boards version of Nights. Always expecting people to read between the lines for a point that you are trying to make and never wanting to put it out for all to see so that you don't have to be help to your opinion later. Nevermind I will stop trying to have a logical conversation with you.

You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****ty luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.

Which is what I was doing. Are you saying that you were ok with WhatTheHell calling somebody a simpleton and a natural born loser but you aren't ok with me calling him out on it? I pretty much agree with most of you post, I was just responding to your attack on me. For the record, please don't ever call me Chief again, I can handle your name calling but don't make a mockery of my heritage.

I'm all for calling people out. I dig it. Just call it what it is. I think everyone can appreciate this is a pretty emotionally heated time.

As far as that word, my apologies. Certainly wasn't meant to offend.
 
You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****ty luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.

Which is what I was doing. Are you saying that you were ok with WhatTheHell calling somebody a simpleton and a natural born loser but you aren't ok with me calling him out on it? I pretty much agree with most of you post, I was just responding to your attack on me. For the record, please don't ever call me Chief again, I can handle your name calling but don't make a mockery of my heritage.

Lol not sure if serious. You're mad over someone calling you "chief." :ibisroflmao:

Hey jackass, what is your nationality? I am pretty sure that I could come up with a derogatory word that you would find offensive unless you of course you don't have any pride in where you came from.
 
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You're trying too hard to be a smartass. Not sure if you're used to dealing with people that are dumber than you or what, but you're pretty transparent to me. Make a condescending comment, then say you are trying to have a logical discussion. Not fooling me chief.

I just asked for your opinion on what you think the administration should do and you keep avoiding the question. In fact you just did it again. If the solution to our problems is so obvious why on earth can't you offer them up. Wouldn't you say that it was pretty condescending to call my initial post a failure and then get upset when you got called out on it. Then on top of it you bring race into the conversation. What is your deal?

Ok, let's not get this twisted. I certainly am not implying the solution is so simple. Nah. I am supporting Golden because I am supporting the university and IMO, he will be here for some time. I really don't think he is in any danger of losing his job....but at the same time let's keep some perspective and not be so afraid of the unknown. Look at how USC has responded.

We've had some pretty ****ty luck these last few weeks in addition to playing poorly. We might come out and dominate these last two games, win a bowl....and be feeling good. Who the **** knows?

To answer your question about what the administration should do? ****....I wish I had that kind of answer. It won't be easy though.

As far as the original issue with your first post, it still stands. You don't throw your hands up and say you want to have logical conversation when you throw out childish insults. I was simply returning the favor.

Which is what I was doing. Are you saying that you were ok with WhatTheHell calling somebody a simpleton and a natural born loser but you aren't ok with me calling him out on it? I pretty much agree with most of you post, I was just responding to your attack on me. For the record, please don't ever call me Chief again, I can handle your name calling but don't make a mockery of my heritage.

I'm all for calling people out. I dig it. Just call it what it is. I think everyone can appreciate this is a pretty emotionally heated time.

As far as that word, my apologies. Certainly wasn't meant to offend.

No worries. I just want this team to be what it should be. There is no reason that with all of the built in advantages that we have at this university that we should be mired in a decade long slump. My personal opinion is that you get rid of the DC, bring in a highly qualified aggressive DC and hand over the reigns to him. I think that is the best plan of attack for the current situation that we are in. I don't expect that everybody agrees with it, maybe just respect the opinion and offer one up as well. It seems that everything on these boards lately turns into a ***** session. I got caught up in it. I agree with you the personal attacks shouldn't be allowed on the board.
 
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