Sony still deciding this month

[CaneSuger]

If we miss on Matthew Thomas one year, and Sony Michel the next year, I'm done with Al Golden.

You can't win without the elite talent.

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Two players don't make a program, and it's not like we missed on linebackers...Alex Figs is showin AA potential, Grace doesn't take **** from anyone and is a good LB that with more size can be great, and our current crop of LBs are young with good potential. Running back we have Yearby committed this year and the staff is high on Gus Edwards. If Golden got all three stars and won a NC you sure as **** wouldn't be complaining. Evaluation is way more important than stars. Winning games is what it's about, recruiting is fun but the football games are what it's about.

Also, with this oline coming you can find running backs that turn into studs, just ask Alabama who has a rb who runs for 1200 yards a year

LOL @ Trent Richardson being average. Too dumb to even respond to.

Dumbass did i say he was average? No, my point is simple Alabama every year has the best oline and without a great qb and only 1 top wr at a time they are always unstoppable. If you think the running backs did all that then tell me why Mark Ingram is such a bust in the NFL and I will wait for your answer.

Alabama has a pretty good defense too... that has a lot to do with their success.

God you're dumb.

 

[CaneSuger]

If we miss on Matthew Thomas one year, and Sony Michel the next year, I'm done with Al Golden.

You can't win without the elite talent.

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Two players don't make a program, and it's not like we missed on linebackers...Alex Figs is showing AA potential, Grace doesn't take **** from anyone and is a good LB that with more size can be great, and our current crop of LBs are young with good potential. Running back we have Yearby committed this year and the staff is high on Gus Edwards. If Golden got all three stars and won a NC you sure as **** wouldn't be complaining. Evaluation is way more important than stars. Winning games is what it's about, recruiting is fun but the football games are what it's about. 5 stars don't guarantee production, ask FSU

Shut up with the "two players don't make a program" crap.

Alex Figeroa is having a good spring, that doesn't make him an All American. Grace isn't even here yet, and if you think Grace is on Matthew Thomas' level you're dumber than dirt.

Yearby is a great back but Sony is special. Sony is the best back in Florida since Duke.

Go **** yourself with this "evaluation" garbage. That's what it is.... garbage. You don't have to be a genius to see that Sony Michel is a special athlete, and the fact is he's been a Cane fan his whole life and grew up in South Florida.

NO EXCUSE for missing on this kid.

You honestly want to call anybody dumb but you think that Thomas is a franchise guy before he graduates from high school? Are you really that slow?

Thomas is a franchise guy and so is Michel, and if you can't see that then you're blind.

Losing Thomas was a huge FAIL by golden, and losing Michel would be strike two.

 

[caneallday21]

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Two players don't make a program, and it's not like we missed on linebackers...Alex Figs is showin AA potential, Grace doesn't take **** from anyone and is a good LB that with more size can be great, and our current crop of LBs are young with good potential. Running back we have Yearby committed this year and the staff is high on Gus Edwards. If Golden got all three stars and won a NC you sure as **** wouldn't be complaining. Evaluation is way more important than stars. Winning games is what it's about, recruiting is fun but the football games are what it's about.

Also, with this oline coming you can find running backs that turn into studs, just ask Alabama who has a rb who runs for 1200 yards a year

LOL @ Trent Richardson being average. Too dumb to even respond to.

Dumbass did i say he was average? No, my point is simple Alabama every year has the best oline and without a great qb and only 1 top wr at a time they are always unstoppable. If you think the running backs did all that then tell me why Mark Ingram is such a bust in the NFL and I will wait for your answer.

Alabama has a pretty good defense too... that has a lot to do with their success.

God you're dumb.

So what you're saying is the defense helps the running back on their on team gain yards? Wow, either you're the dumbest ******* Cane fan alive or a troll who's bored.

 

[CaneSuger]

Also, with this oline coming you can find running backs that turn into studs, just ask Alabama who has a rb who runs for 1200 yards a year

LOL @ Trent Richardson being average. Too dumb to even respond to.

Dumbass did i say he was average? No, my point is simple Alabama every year has the best oline and without a great qb and only 1 top wr at a time they are always unstoppable. If you think the running backs did all that then tell me why Mark Ingram is such a bust in the NFL and I will wait for your answer.

Alabama has a pretty good defense too... that has a lot to do with their success.

God you're dumb.

So what you're saying is the defense helps the running back on their on team gain yards? Wow, either you're the dumbest ****ing Cane fan alive or a troll who's bored.

Just stop, you're making a fool of yourself.

Alabama has a good defense, that's why they've been such a good team. Last year, their OL was elite too.

They run the ball A LOT, that's part of the reason for why they get so many yards doing it. Also, they have great running backs. Richardson and Ingram were both 5 stars.

Oh and speaking of Alabama, they don't lose out on local kids.

If Sony Michel were from Tuscaloosa he would go to Alabama. So how come Miami can't seal the deal?

 

[DiegoCane]

The **** I can't blame the coaches. He's been wanting to come here since the 8th grade, if he doesn't want to come here, then something got messed up along the way. This whole idea that Golden is perfect in regards to recruiting is ridiculous.

You're right. Golden should hold a gun to the kid's head.

If all things are equal then I see your point but they are not equal. Sony is a kid that grew up a fan of the program, is a local kid and most importantly plays a position of need. It has already been broken down by others on this site; the smart choice for Sony is to pick Miami. If he does not, it will be a failure by the staff no ifs or buts about it.

I mean...I kind of understand what you're saying, but how? What could the coaches have possibly done to ***** this up? I'm not one of those guys that thinks Al is flawless and can do no wrong. Logically, I just don't see what could possibly have happened. A list of things coaches do to ***** up recruitments:

1)Offer late (We were on him since 8th grade, so no)
2) Slow play (again, we might have been the first team to offer him)
3)Recruit other players at his position after saying we wouldn't (I doubt it seeing as Sony himself wants to play with another top back)
4) Told him we would recruit him as a position he doesn't want to play like Rudolph (Sony is a rb all the way and it has never been mentioned we wanted him for something else)
5) Stopped recruiting him after his injury (didn't happen)
6) Inconsistent contact with him (doubtful as he has been to campus numerous times and has been made a top target)

I also doubt Sony has been turned off by academic requirements or there is anything weird going on between his coach (Mike Rumph, former Cane) and the school. So what could it be? The NCAA? Maybe, but Golden wasn't involved and at the very least is telling Sony we aren't getting anything more (at least bowl bans anyway). The only thing it could be is we don't win enough, but if the kid is as legit a fan as he says and as everyone makes him out to be then he knows what happened with Shannon and Al's first 2 years. He sees the talent we have and he knows we are primed to return from the cellar. He sees we had the best freshman running back in the country and it's not out of the question that he, himself, can duplicate or surpass that success. After all of these tests for me, I concluded that if in fact Sony chooses UGA over the U it is because he liked their staff more, wants to play for Georgia in the SEC and feels like he will do better in that system and at that school.

At the end of the day there is only so much a coach can do to convince a player to play for them. At what point do we put any of it on the kid? I would just love to know what ya'll think could have possibly happened between Sony and the coaches to make it the coaches fault given the information we have. I'll hang up and listen

Then they got outworked and beat for a prized recruit plain and simple. You are ultimately judged on results and not landing this kid for said reasons has to be looked upon as a failure. I am a big supporter of Golden but this mentality that it isnt on the staff is ridiculous. Look at it from the UGA side, if they land Sony then they will(as they should be) be praised for the great job that they did in pulling an elite prospect away from Miami(because that is how it will be looked at). Saying that losing this kid is not on the staff is the same as stating that getting Kc committed wasnt a big deal and not a big get for the staff.

I don't know what will happen with Sony and don't claim to know but just because you lose a recruit doesn't mean you got out worked. Plenty examples of that every year.

 

[DiegoCane]

The **** I can't blame the coaches. He's been wanting to come here since the 8th grade, if he doesn't want to come here, then something got messed up along the way. This whole idea that Golden is perfect in regards to recruiting is ridiculous.

You're right. Golden should hold a gun to the kid's head.

If all things are equal then I see your point but they are not equal. Sony is a kid that grew up a fan of the program, is a local kid and most importantly plays a position of need. It has already been broken down by others on this site; the smart choice for Sony is to pick Miami. If he does not, it will be a failure by the staff no ifs or buts about it.

I mean...I kind of understand what you're saying, but how? What could the coaches have possibly done to ***** this up? I'm not one of those guys that thinks Al is flawless and can do no wrong. Logically, I just don't see what could possibly have happened. A list of things coaches do to ***** up recruitments:

1)Offer late (We were on him since 8th grade, so no)
2) Slow play (again, we might have been the first team to offer him)
3)Recruit other players at his position after saying we wouldn't (I doubt it seeing as Sony himself wants to play with another top back)
4) Told him we would recruit him as a position he doesn't want to play like Rudolph (Sony is a rb all the way and it has never been mentioned we wanted him for something else)
5) Stopped recruiting him after his injury (didn't happen)
6) Inconsistent contact with him (doubtful as he has been to campus numerous times and has been made a top target)

I also doubt Sony has been turned off by academic requirements or there is anything weird going on between his coach (Mike Rumph, former Cane) and the school. So what could it be? The NCAA? Maybe, but Golden wasn't involved and at the very least is telling Sony we aren't getting anything more (at least bowl bans anyway). The only thing it could be is we don't win enough, but if the kid is as legit a fan as he says and as everyone makes him out to be then he knows what happened with Shannon and Al's first 2 years. He sees the talent we have and he knows we are primed to return from the cellar. He sees we had the best freshman running back in the country and it's not out of the question that he, himself, can duplicate or surpass that success. After all of these tests for me, I concluded that if in fact Sony chooses UGA over the U it is because he liked their staff more, wants to play for Georgia in the SEC and feels like he will do better in that system and at that school.

At the end of the day there is only so much a coach can do to convince a player to play for them. At what point do we put any of it on the kid? I would just love to know what ya'll think could have possibly happened between Sony and the coaches to make it the coaches fault given the information we have. I'll hang up and listen

Then they got outworked and beat for a prized recruit plain and simple. You are ultimately judged on results and not landing this kid for said reasons has to be looked upon as a failure. I am a big supporter of Golden but this mentality that it isnt on the staff is ridiculous. Look at it from the UGA side, if they land Sony then they will(as they should be) be praised for the great job that they did in pulling an elite prospect away from Miami(because that is how it will be looked at). Saying that losing this kid is not on the staff is the same as stating that getting Kc committed wasnt a big deal and not a big get for the staff.

I don't know what will happen with Sony and don't claim to know but just because you lose a recruit doesn't mean you got out worked. Plenty examples of that every year.

 

[kev13108]

Sony will be a can. Period. U

 

[Jassid82]

I think we can all agree that everyone wants Sony REALLY REALLY bad. I also agree that he has not made up his mind yet. I think he has a school that hes really leaning toward but is still weighing his options. If he is leaning toward GA I think he wakes up every morning wondering if he REALLY should be at UM instead. And if he is leaning toward UM, whether are not we get hit with sanctions and how bad it would be. (This is the only recruit on our board that I think the sanctions are messing with his head. Despite anything he says. What else could it be? Perfect scenario for him. Loved UM since he was in the 8th grade. Now all of a sudden he's not feelin us anymore? Not buying it. JMO)

As far as the ALA RBs. Lets not act like Trent Richardson went HAM this year. Buddy almost got benched halfway through the season. Alfred Morris ran circles around that guy. And Mark Ingram has been a total bust. Eddie Lacy..We shall see. I get what the poster is saying when he says that ALAs OL has helped those RBs TREMENDOUSLY.

 

[88]

I think we can all agree that everyone wants Sony REALLY REALLY bad. I also agree that he has not made up his mind yet. I think he has a school that hes really leaning toward but is still weighing his options. If he is leaning toward GA I think he wakes up every morning wondering if he REALLY should be at UM instead. And if he is leaning toward UM, whether are not we get hit with sanctions and how bad it would be. (This is the only recruit on our board that I think the sanctions are messing with his head. Despite anything he says. What else could it be? Perfect scenario for him. Loved UM since he was in the 8th grade. Now all of a sudden he's not feelin us anymore? Not buying it. JMO)

As far as the ALA RBs. Lets not act like Trent Richardson went HAM this year. Buddy almost got benched halfway through the season. Alfred Morris ran circles around that guy. And Mark Ingram has been a total bust. Eddie Lacy..We shall see. I get what the poster is saying when he says that ALAs OL has helped those RBs TREMENDOUSLY.

It's not like it's all on the running backs shoulders. Offensive line and scheme have a lot to do with a running backs success. Tons of running backs have done well in Shannahans scheme. Not sure what type of holes were opening up for Richardson

 

[AllbouttheU]

Recruits only look at where the Bama players get drafted and how they done in College. In College they was the best but still **** Bama.

 

[Muffin Man]

LOL @ Trent Richardson being average. Too dumb to even respond to.

Dumbass did i say he was average? No, my point is simple Alabama every year has the best oline and without a great qb and only 1 top wr at a time they are always unstoppable. If you think the running backs did all that then tell me why Mark Ingram is such a bust in the NFL and I will wait for your answer.

Alabama has a pretty good defense too... that has a lot to do with their success.

God you're dumb.

So what you're saying is the defense helps the running back on their on team gain yards? Wow, either you're the dumbest ****ing Cane fan alive or a troll who's bored.

Just stop, you're making a fool of yourself.

Alabama has a good defense, that's why they've been such a good team. Last year, their OL was elite too.

They run the ball A LOT, that's part of the reason for why they get so many yards doing it. Also, they have great running backs. Richardson and Ingram were both 5 stars.

Oh and speaking of Alabama, they don't lose out on local kids.

If Sony Michel were from Tuscaloosa he would go to Alabama. So how come Miami can't seal the deal?

Alabama wins national championships. Golden didn't inherit a national championship team. A local recruit is obviously going to prefer to go to a team as dominant as Alabama has been in recent memory, whereas a local recruit here has to factor in our recent mediocrity (coupled with two other teams in the state having more success recently and the NCAA cloud looming over our heads for the entire duration of Golden's tenure thus far). Hopefully he'll get the team to that national championship-caliber level, and sooner rather than later, but to even compare the two schools right now is ridiculous.

 

[Stingarov]

Trent Richardson was fine last year, even though he was being ran into the ground after offseason knee injury that left him unable to get into the flow or get any sort of preseason action. He was only pulled for severe rib and sternum injuries that required a protective vest, rendering him ineffective; he admitted he probably shouldn't have even suited up. Lulz at the idea that he was some sort of let down last year.

This is him prior to that injury:

 

[bAMACANE]

Trent is a beast

 

[killa1storm]

hopefully he doesn't go to uga...**** that school with an aids ****.

 

[am1640]

Yearby is a great back but Sony is special. Sony is the best back in Florida since Duke.

Go **** yourself with this "evaluation" garbage. That's what it is.... garbage. You don't have to be a genius to see that Sony Michel is a special athlete, and the fact is he's been a Cane fan his whole life and grew up in South Florida.

NO EXCUSE for missing on this kid.

Best back since Duke lol you say that like it's some special achievement. You do know Duke is barely a year removed from HS.

 

[CaneBoss]

If we miss on Matthew Thomas one year, and Sony Michel the next year, I'm done with Al Golden.

You can't win without the elite talent.

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Two players don't make a program, and it's not like we missed on linebackers...Alex Figs is showing AA potential, Grace doesn't take **** from anyone and is a good LB that with more size can be great, and our current crop of LBs are young with good potential. Running back we have Yearby committed this year and the staff is high on Gus Edwards. If Golden got all three stars and won a NC you sure as **** wouldn't be complaining. Evaluation is way more important than stars. Winning games is what it's about, recruiting is fun but the football games are what it's about. 5 stars don't guarantee production, ask FSU

Shut up with the "two players don't make a program" crap.

Alex Figeroa is having a good spring, that doesn't make him an All American. Grace isn't even here yet, and if you think Grace is on Matthew Thomas' level you're dumber than dirt.

Yearby is a great back but Sony is special. Sony is the best back in Florida since Duke.

Go **** yourself with this "evaluation" garbage. That's what it is.... garbage. You don't have to be a genius to see that Sony Michel is a special athlete, and the fact is he's been a Cane fan his whole life and grew up in South Florida.

NO EXCUSE for missing on this kid.

You honestly want to call anybody dumb but you think that Thomas is a franchise guy before he graduates from high school? Are you really that slow?

Thomas is a franchise guy and so is Michel, and if you can't see that then you're blind.

Losing Thomas was a huge FAIL by golden, and losing Michel would be strike two.

LOL at anybody saying we will get outworked for a recruit, or there are "strikes" against Golden for said "failures." For every Thomas and Botswick where the staff "failed", there were guys like AQM and Beau who Miami plucks from a 1000 miles away. Or an unnown like Pierre or Figs coming through and becoming a positive contributor. You cannot focus on who was lost and not mention the countless example of Golden out-muscling other top end schools for kids.

Sometimes, a kid just decides to go elsewhere and there is nothing a coaching staff can do to change that. Thomas never had an intention of coming here and did not want to stay in Miami. How many times has that been beaten to death? In fact, the kid was going to commit to USC after his visit, a school that barely had any contact with him until the end of his recruitment, but his mother wouldn't allow it. Hilarious that you considered that a "fail" by Golden.

Tell Gibbons and his 60 hand written notes from the UM staff that the coaches get "outworked." Give me a break.

 

[User-4525]

If we miss on Matthew Thomas one year, and Sony Michel the next year, I'm done with Al Golden.

You can't win without the elite talent.

That's the stupidest **** I've ever heard. Two players don't make a program, and it's not like we missed on linebackers...Alex Figs is showing AA potential, Grace doesn't take **** from anyone and is a good LB that with more size can be great, and our current crop of LBs are young with good potential. Running back we have Yearby committed this year and the staff is high on Gus Edwards. If Golden got all three stars and won a NC you sure as **** wouldn't be complaining. Evaluation is way more important than stars. Winning games is what it's about, recruiting is fun but the football games are what it's about. 5 stars don't guarantee production, ask FSU

Shut up with the "two players don't make a program" crap.

Alex Figeroa is having a good spring, that doesn't make him an All American. Grace isn't even here yet, and if you think Grace is on Matthew Thomas' level you're dumber than dirt.

Yearby is a great back but Sony is special. Sony is the best back in Florida since Duke.

Go **** yourself with this "evaluation" garbage. That's what it is.... garbage. You don't have to be a genius to see that Sony Michel is a special athlete, and the fact is he's been a Cane fan his whole life and grew up in South Florida.

NO EXCUSE for missing on this kid.

I guess you didn't read right, AA potential doesn't mean he's an AA. And when did I say Grace was Matthew Thomas? You are using the arguement that Grace isnt even on campus yet but neither is Matthew Thomas yet. And no evaluation isn't stupid, Kyle Wright consensus 5 star and looked how that turned out. There have been so many busts that were rated high 4 stars or 5 stars but you obviously believe that just because a kid performs at a lower level he must be able to do the same in college. Sony is special, I never refuted that, or even took a stance if its the staff's fault or not. But good try, not gonna keep arguing if you can't comprehend what I wrote and you contradict yourself.

 

[Jassid82]

Lol. What is this an ALA board? Did I say he was a letdown? I said dont come on here and try to convince me he went HAM. (That means Hard AS Mutha$%cka) He didnt. **** the injury. He averaged 3.6 yards a carry!!! He was a top 5 pick!! Wanna go look at Alfred Morris's stats? No.. Please. I insist..GTFOH! Trent was average THIS YEAR. To say anything otherwise is just crazy. Lol.

I have said my peace on Sony.

 

[Stingarov]

Lol. What is this an ALA board? Did I say he was a letdown? I said dont come on here and try to convince me he went HAM. (That means Hard AS Mutha$%cka) He didnt. **** the injury. He averaged 3.6 yards a carry!!! He was a top 5 pick!! Wanna go look at Alfred Morris's stats? No.. Please. I insist..GTFOH! Trent was average THIS YEAR. To say anything otherwise is just crazy. Lol.

I have said my peace on Sony.

More lulz. Richardson was far from average (aka he did go HAM, thanks) when healthy (and yet not even football conditioned), which is the point. To ignore the knee surgery and sternal chest injury is high comedy, but stick to that yards per carry index as a measure of effectiveness when the QB was dumping the ball to him 24/7 on passing plays, allowing 8-9 in the box. It's wholly inaccurate to describe the year as anything more than an "incomplete" in grading terms, because he flashed brilliance but was out of shape. Average, right. Best Cleveland offense in 20 years by the way, in no small part to Trent and Josh go Route Gordon, left solo because of the stacking of the box. The guy wasn't demoted, and wasn't benched. He was out of shape and played hurt, and to portray a picture otherwise is misleading.

Done talking about Trent.
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And to reply to an unrelated comment earlier, just because I don't know where Sony is going to wind up doesn't mean we should listen to those **** who all got some of the most obvious picks wrong a couple of months ago. They're all guessing. As would I be.

 

[zone3cane]

Yearby is a great back but Sony is special. Sony is the best back in Florida since Duke.

Go **** yourself with this "evaluation" garbage. That's what it is.... garbage. You don't have to be a genius to see that Sony Michel is a special athlete, and the fact is he's been a Cane fan his whole life and grew up in South Florida.

NO EXCUSE for missing on this kid.

Best back since Duke lol you say that like it's some special achievement. You do know Duke is barely a year removed from HS.

You act like you dont understand the point though which is Sony is another once in a decade back like Duke Johnson.... I'd rather see that then the bs about Alex Collins being one of the GOATs, which for some reason so many ppl on here actually believe.... smh