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Stock Down: Daryl Porter Jr

Over the last 2 games he's given up 14 receptions out of 17 targets for 164yds with an 82.3% conversion catch rate & missed 3 tackles last game.

He's playing out of position at Nickel, & struggling a great deal at it. That's not his position, even when he was at West VA he played the majority of his Snaps at Boundary. He looks really uncomfortable having to defend Crossing patterns & drag routes. Va Tech was Probably his worst game in a Miami uniform.

Stock Up: Mark Fletcher
Should probably consider moving him to LG with his Elite Blocking skills.
 
RightSaidFred said:
I wonder if Cooper lost too much weight
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cooper is hurt...i mean he literally sat out **** near awhole game being hurt....if he has to push off on that foot you can see it hurts him.

Him loosing weight doesnt change anything considering the fact that we run the same run over n over into tight splits while motioning more men in the box..and have rbs that have missed a few holes vision wise leaving some yards out there.
 
How Alston didnt get a stock down for this game i dunno. He left 2 sacks out there that turned into 14 points.

Folks have a hard time saying Wes not having a good game still i see. If its a team that is gonna be a lil physical he is in problems...hes a guy that has to be clean to make plays. Seen progress but the lbs didnt play well this gae both of em...Kiko started off bad last game as well against USF.

* In reference to Porter at nickel. THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY IT. He has to play that spot...because you cant play OJ there...Hill never played there....and Richard nearly blew his transmission the one time he had to do something Porter has had to do **** near every play since last game.
 
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gogeta4 said:
How Alston didnt get a stock down for this game i dunno. He left 2 sacks out there that turned into 14 points.

Folks have a hard time saying Wes not having a good game still i see. If its a team that is gonna be a lil physical he is in problems...hes a guy that has to be clean to make plays. Seen progress but the lbs didnt play well this gae both of em...Kiko started off bad last game as well against USF.

* In reference to Porter at nickel. THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY IT. He has to play that spot...because you cant play OJ there...Hill never played there....and Richard nearly blew his transmission the one time he had to do something Porter has had to do **** near every play since last game.
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I don’t know why Alston jumped only to get faked out by VT’s quarterback on their first touchdown. Not leaving your feet and falling for that **** is taught to optimist league kids.
 
gogeta4 said:
How Alston didnt get a stock down for this game i dunno. He left 2 sacks out there that turned into 14 points.

Folks have a hard time saying Wes not having a good game still i see. If its a team that is gonna be a lil physical he is in problems...hes a guy that has to be clean to make plays. Seen progress but the lbs didnt play well this gae both of em...Kiko started off bad last game as well against USF.

* In reference to Porter at nickel. THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY IT. He has to play that spot...because you cant play OJ there...Hill never played there....and Richard nearly blew his transmission the one time he had to do something Porter has had to do **** near every play since last game.
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That's a problem they could've mitigated in the Spring Portal...

As I stated back then in April, the decision to only take 1 Corner out the Portal was baffling & would eventually come back to bite us.
 
skeeter said:
This is for the whole season, but mainly with a focus on the last couple games

Stock Up:
Ward (obviously props to those who knew how good he was….I loved that we got him, but thought he had some major flaws)
Horton
Arroyo
M.Bryant- (Needs more snaps somehow…Absolutely all over the field)
Aguirre Potential stud
D.Hill- (I think he’s been best DB last 2 weeks, best tackler for sure)
Bissainthe- (has taken next step)

Stock Down:
Richards (not terrible, but not good…Need Damari Brown back)
Cooper (Still will be an NFL player and has had a nice career, but just not as good as last season, interior not creating the holes we need to see)
S.Brown (all the tools, but a little soft?. may be nitpicking but between the drops and tiptoeing after the catch?)
J.Harris (not giving up on him at all…He’s definitely active but sloppy. Was he nicked up vs. VT? )

Almost included Kiki and Powell for too many missed tackles, but I still think they are plus players and will give them a chance to rebound. Both were bad in space vs. VT as many have pointed out.
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Man no way J Harris stock is down. He hasn’t done anything before this year and he has been solid so far.
 
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The injuries are starting to take a toll and it’s still early in the season so to speak. If we don’t get healthy soon it’s going to get real interesting.
 
Everyone is roasting our DBs, but y’all don’t realize they held tech to 189 passing yards on 19/33. Our front 7 was the biggest issue last game. No pressure on the QB, getting there and whiffing, missing tackles, losing contain, and they ran for over 200 on us!! Our DBs sucked in run support, but they did okay in coverage given the lack of pressure up front.
 
JHallCanes said:
Good coverage for a guy that didn’t make David Lakes top 60 players on the team
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Saved a potential game winning TD with his route stoppage.

He played it perfectly & I'll explain why.

He speed turned played the fade on the Boundary side & while in phase, located the ball (on the slowmo replay you can actually see him look back to find the ball), got his hands up, face-guarded & "guided"/pushed the WR out the back of the End Zone.

Now most would think he was supposed to flip & play the jump ball with the WR, but if he does that, he likely gets Mossed overtop, giving the WR an opportunity to push off & it's a TD. What he did instead was identify & disrupt the route by pushing him out of bounds. But the key is that he didn't initiate contact too early while face guarding. That's what made it perfect, because had he just lunged forward & pushed him without looking back to find the ball, that's an easy PI.

It's an under the radar play, but given the circumstances, was actually a huge play that most didn't even notice.
 
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Memnon said:
Saved a potential game winning TD with his route stoppage.

He played it perfectly & I'll explain why.

He speed turned played the fade on the Boundary side & while in phase, located the ball (on the slowmo replay you can actually see him look back to find the ball), got his hands up, face-guarded & "guided"/pushed the WR out the back of the End Zone.

Now most would think he was supposed to flip & play the jump ball with the WR, but if he does that, he likely gets Mossed overtop, giving the WR an opportunityto push off & it's a TD. What he did instead was identify & disrupt the route by pushing him out of bounds. But the key is that he didn't initiate contact too early while face guarding. That's what made it perfect, because had he just lunged forward & pushed him without looking back to find the ball, that's an easy PI.

It's an under the radar play, but given the circumstances, was actually a huge play that most didn't even notice.
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I appreciate this

We were in a crowded spot watching the game and we’ve had very limited internet since coming back because of the storms so I haven’t been able to rewatch the game at all

But I remember seeing the play live and thinking that DB (was hard for me to see if it was Hill at the time) must have covered one guy over half of the field. That’s gotta be a **** of a play
 
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Memnon said:
That's a problem they could've mitigated in the Spring Portal...

As I stated back then in April, the decision to only take 1 Corner out the Portal was baffling & would eventually come back to bite us.
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Hey it was You and me both.

I guess oyu could train Bobby Washington specifically there but shoulda bene done from the summer
 
Thank god Bain is back. We could have used him setting the edge and crashing the QB.

Given the stock down discussion, there are guys I want to see more of.
  • CB, let's get Robby out there. Can he play nickle given his experience in the slot? Stafford, Mack?
  • WR, Brown snaps should diminish while Jojo, Kirk and Carr snaps should go up. I still expect Brown to get back to form. But more competition will be good for him.
  • LB: Kiko gets gassed. He's already a little slow and stiff (90% of MLBs are). More Chase, Bobby and Popo is a win/win for everyone.
  • S, We're already seeing more of Williams and Patterson. Even more is justified.
  • DT: Not sure who goes in between Moten, Horton, Scott. Maybe it's a gametime call based on whoever is playing best in practices.
  • RB +TE: The pistol worked better for Martinez, we should keep adjusting so our RBs can play to their strengths. I'd even like to see some I out there. 2-3 TEs (one can split wide, one can act as a FB, whatever) gives us better big packages. At the same time, CJ is electric and what happened to Allen? Those boys need more opportunities. We need to get that run game going.
I'm not advocating wholesale makeover. Just dial back snaps among the starters, dial them up among the second and third team. It's time now.
 
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grover said:
Thank god Bain is back. We could have used him setting the edge and crashing the QB.

Given the stock down discussion, there are guys I want to see more of.
  • CB, let's get Robby out there. Can he play nickle given his experience in the slot? Stafford, Mack?
  • WR, Brown snaps should diminish while Jojo, Kirk and Carr snaps should go up. I still expect Brown to get back to form. But more competition will be good for him.
  • LB: Kiko gets gassed. He's already a little slow and stiff (90% of MLBs are). More Chase, Bobby and Popo is a win/win for everyone.
  • S, We're already seeing more of Williams and Patterson. Even more is justified.
  • DT: Not sure who goes in between Moten, Horton, Scott. Maybe it's a gametime call based on whoever is playing best in practices.
  • RB +TE: The pistol worked better for Martinez, we should keep adjusting so our RBs can play to their strengths. I'd even like to see some I out there. 2-3 TEs (one can split wide, one can act as a FB, whatever) gives us better big packages. At the same time, CJ is electric and what happened to Allen? Those boys need more opportunities. We need to get that run game going.
I'm not advocating wholesale makeover. Just dial back snaps among the starters, dial them up among the second and third team. It's time now.
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Agree with you on Markeith Williams.

He's played very well in coverage thus far in the snaps he's gotten.

Absolutely blanketed VA Tech's TE on the Out route on 3rd & 7 with 7:56 left in the 4th.

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KingB02 said:
Everyone is roasting our DBs, but y’all don’t realize they held tech to 189 passing yards on 19/33. Our front 7 was the biggest issue last game. No pressure on the QB, getting there and whiffing, missing tackles, losing contain, and they ran for over 200 on us!! Our DBs sucked in run support, but they did okay in coverage given the lack of pressure up front.
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Imo this was the clear issue. I think the pressure was fine at times but they whiffed badly on sacks. The biggest concern is the lack of good NT and slow LB plays. We play two 3 tech DT's Messidor and Barrow and have no true NT. They played Moten a ton due to us getting killed on the runs but he is bang average at best. CJ clark has been a huge miss in eval.
 
SaiyaMan305 said:
Imo this was the clear issue. I think the pressure was fine at times but they whiffed badly on sacks. The biggest concern is the lack of good NT and slow LB plays. We play two 3 tech DT's Messidor and Barrow and have no true NT. They played Moten a ton due to us getting killed on the runs but he is bang average at best. CJ clark has been a huge miss in eval.
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CJ CLARK AND MARLEY COOK. LOL

I MEAN THEY HAVE TO HIT THEIR QUOTA ON GETTING 6'0 300 PD TRANSFER DTS EVERY CYCLE THOUGH
 
gogeta4 said:
How Alston didnt get a stock down for this game i dunno. He left 2 sacks out there that turned into 14 points.

Folks have a hard time saying Wes not having a good game still i see. If its a team that is gonna be a lil physical he is in problems...hes a guy that has to be clean to make plays. Seen progress but the lbs didnt play well this gae both of em...Kiko started off bad last game as well against USF.

* In reference to Porter at nickel. THEY HAVE NO ONE ELSE TO PLAY IT. He has to play that spot...because you cant play OJ there...Hill never played there....and Richard nearly blew his transmission the one time he had to do something Porter has had to do **** near every play since last game.
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Blew a transmission 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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