Some names to watch before it’s deleted

[Bunker Mentality]

How is Dorsey as a play-caller? Can he design plays and offensive strategy? The rest of the offensive staff reports to him, how will he be able to handle that duty? That's what I'm interested in. Being really smart and able to process information quickly is good and should be required for the job, but can Dorsey succeed as an actual offensive coordinator? These are the questions. And right now, the answers are a bit muddled because he's never been an offensive coordinator. Now, I also want to add, we really don't know what responsibilities Dorsey has had as an actual QB coach. Maybe his superiors (i.e., Dabol) gave him extensive responsibilities like game planning, play design, and strategy. We don't know. Again, the answers to those questions are muddled. But Briles has experience as an offensive coordinator, and that is why I lean towards him right now.

But here's what I keep coming back to: Dorsey will be an OC next season someplace. And if he's well-thought of by NFL circles, he has to be qualified for Miami. Anyway, I hope all that makes sense.

He’s a leader and a champion who played the toughest position at the highest level on arguably the best team ever assembled in amateur sport, who then went on to become one of the better QB coaches and talent-developers at the professional level. Just because you’re not comfortable and need a more ‘conventional’ candidate, it doesn’t mean KD wouldn’t be the best choice; you may simply lack the vision to identify (ascending) coaching talent.

 

[Cane6]

I love Ken Dorsey

But come on now, if he played and won a championship at Texas vs Miami, with his current post NCAA resume, your attraction for Dorsey as our next OC would be 1/1,000 of what it is now

 

[TOcane]

I love Ken Dorsey

But come on now, if he played and won a championship at Texas vs Miami, with his current post NCAA resume, your attraction for Dorsey as our next OC would be 1/1,000 of what it is now

We all get it and I’m not advocating either way but this point has already been made 500 times in this thread.

 

[aleahy]

I’m terms of Dorsey, I am putting my money on him being extremely successful as an OC whenever and wherever he gets the opportunity.

This is a guy who is arguably the smartest football player ever to play at Miami. He hung on as a player in the NFL specifically because he was so good in the QB room. He’s gone on to have a very successful NFL coaching career at the most difficult position to coach. He’s continued to rise to where he is a legit candidate to become an OC in the league.

You give me a guy with his smarts and intensity and proven ability to work with QB’s (of which we now have 3 legit good ones) and I’m betting heavily on him being really good. I hope it’s at Miami.

 

[MPCane17]

Dorsey would be a home run hire even if he wasn’t a UM legend. How can you not want a guy with his experience? I don’t understand this crap with some of y’all. Brady didn’t have half the experience Dorsey does before he went to LSU and look what happened. Give me a guy who has developed QB’s at the highest level and has had a ton of input in game planning. I think you’re putting way too much stock in the “play calling” aspect.

 

[Cryptical Envelopment]

 

[itsacanething]

A big callout from me here is that Feldman is someone that is usually VERY plugged in, especially with Miami. He named like 15 names here’s and not one of them was the eventual hire.

Additionally, you can argue that DeRuyter was a let down of a hire compared to most of these names.

Idk if that translates to anything for us but considering how quiet things have been regarding legit rumors for our coordinators, it wouldn’t surprise if the eventual hire was someone no one has even talked about.

conversely he had hurt and Schumann listed and those names have surfaced again. they are probably in the mix. going with Schumann here because he is in the playoff.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

A big callout from me here is that Feldman is someone that is usually VERY plugged in, especially with Miami. He named like 15 names here’s and not one of them was the eventual hire.

Additionally, you can argue that DeRuyter was a let down of a hire compared to most of these names.

Idk if that translates to anything for us but considering how quiet things have been regarding legit rumors for our coordinators, it wouldn’t surprise if the eventual hire was someone no one has even talked about.

Just to add on to your comments, while Feldman may not have mentioned the ultimate hiree at Oregon last year, the list of candidates is solid and some have continued to be considered at both UM and Oregon this year. We have no idea whether some of those candidates passed for other opportunities, etc. I think we would need to be more worried if the list included guys who went on to suck at other schools.

 

[Problem2]

Who's getting announced today?

 

[brock]

Who's getting announced today?

Probably salvea. I’ve noticed they’ve been doing one announcement per day basically

 

[aleahy]

Who's getting announced today?

I’m thinking we might get multiple announcements today. Start some momentum going into tomorrow with the 2 all star game commitments on deck.

It would generate some buzz for coordinator announcements early next week as recruiting starts back up.

 

[TheOriginalCane]

I love Ken Dorsey

But come on now, if he played and won a championship at Texas vs Miami, with his current post NCAA resume, your attraction for Dorsey as our next OC would be 1/1,000 of what it is now

I'm not sure why this bogus "people only like Dorsey because he went to UM" argument keeps getting recycled.

Talented and rising assistant coaches are identified all the time. In college and in the NFL. At some point, every coach has to take a particular job "for the first time". The only people insisting that "prior experience" is a non-negotiable are our fans, while the person who does the actual hiring is Mario.

It's just bizarre. In one breath, Dorsey-haters bring up every disqualifying argument possible as to why Dorsey should not be a first-time OC at Miami...and then in the next breath, they swear that Dorsey is about to get an NFL OC job, just as soon as the NFL dominoes fall, and as a result, we should not hire him.

So who is crazier? The multiple NFL teams that seem poised to make Ken Dorsey a first-time OC, and AT THE NFL LEVEL? Or our Dorsey-hating fans, who cannot tolerate the possibility that Mario would consider hiring a first-time OC, and AT THE COLLEGIATE LEVEL?

Again, unlike some, I have not advocated for Dorsey to be hired. There are a couple of other guys that I think would work as well. And I think Dorsey might be hired if a couple of other guys go elsewhere. But Dorsey is NOT "unqualified", and he is NOT "attractive", or getting an offer, solely because of his diploma. He might ACCEPT a college job at UM solely because of his diploma, but that is different.

 

[Rickd]

How is Dorsey as a play-caller? Can he design plays and offensive strategy? The rest of the offensive staff reports to him, how will he be able to handle that duty? That's what I'm interested in. Being really smart and able to process information quickly is good and should be required for the job, but can Dorsey succeed as an actual offensive coordinator? These are the questions. And right now, the answers are a bit muddled because he's never been an offensive coordinator. Now, I also want to add, we really don't know what responsibilities Dorsey has had as an actual QB coach. Maybe his superiors (i.e., Dabol) gave him extensive responsibilities like game planning, play design, and strategy. We don't know. Again, the answers to those questions are muddled. But Briles has experience as an offensive coordinator, and that is why I lean towards him right now.

But here's what I keep coming back to: Dorsey will be an OC next season someplace. And if he's well-thought of by NFL circles, he has to be qualified for Miami. Anyway, I hope all that makes sense.

You ask "can Dorsey design plays and offensive strategy" .. THAT has been one of his functions in his two NFL positions. He HAS participated in game planning .. that is offensive strategy and play selection to exploit an opponents weaknesses. THAT is one of the reasons he is so highly regarded in the NFL community. He turned down two OC positions for the 2021 season .. because they weren't the right situations for him. He didn't want to walk into a total **** show like Brady did when he took the job with Rhule.

 

[5NC4]

I think a lot of folks are forgetting why we moved away from the Pro Style offense to begin with. A Pro Style offense is much more difficult to learn and execute. The QB has to be very cerebral. The play book is much harder to learn. The route adjustments for the other offensive players can be difficult to read. How many times over the years did we hear so and so doesn't know the play book or so and so ran the wrong route. We want our players naturally reacting vs thinking too much. Lashlee's offense was simplistic and easy to learn, therefore easy to execute.

A lot of folks here making assumptions that Miami can capture what LSU did with Burrow and all those NFL draft picks he had on offense. Someone like Briles brings a more simplistic offense for immediate success. The Pro Style may take longer, maybe years to properly execute and have the right personnel for. Another thing LSU had was a significantly better OL. Something else that takes time for development. There is some reasoning behind us needing to switch from the Pro Style for many years, yet we are in a rush to switch right back to it.

 

[BeastMode]

I’m thinking we might get multiple announcements today. Start some momentum going into tomorrow with the 2 all star game commitments on deck.

It would generate some buzz for coordinator announcements early next week as recruiting starts back up.

Mario said on the Lebtard show we be announcing more staff into next week and set before Thursday the opening of the new recruiting period. Unless I heard him wrong it sounds like his coordinators are hired.

Would expect the DL coach today. Maybe some announcements of current guys staying over the weekend and then coordinators next week after their seasons end (Georgia/Bills regular season) complete guess in the coordinators and time lines but that’s what it seems

 

[Canesq]

Mario said on the Lebtard show we be announcing more staff into next week and set before Thursday the opening of the new recruiting period. Unless I heard him wrong it sounds like his coordinators are hired.

Would expect the DL coach today. Maybe some announcements of current guys staying over the weekend and then coordinators next week after their seasons end (Georgia/Bills regular season) complete guess in the coordinators and time lines but that’s what it seems

That’s why I thought the Pipo bit went too long. A great follow up would be have you made a decision on the OC and DC yet.

What is your philosophy on announcing hires if the potential coach still has games to coach whether it be college or pros?

Are you trying to announce the coordinators at the same time?

 

[Noliaboi]

That’s why I thought the Pipo bit went too long. A great follow up would be have you made a decision on the OC and DC yet.

What is your philosophy on announcing hires if the potential coach still has games to coach whether it be college or pros?

Are you trying to announce the coordinators at the same time?

Miami media never ask good questions

 

[BeastMode]

That’s why I thought the Pipo bit went too long. A great follow up would be have you made a decision on the OC and DC yet.

What is your philosophy on announcing hires if the potential coach still has games to coach whether it be college or pros?

Are you trying to announce the coordinators at the same time?

Agreed Pipo was funny and mario has a good time with that but they had a chance to ask him some yes or no questions. Mario was ready to talk up the program and would’ve probably spoke more about all that if asked.

 

[mossmadness]

I think a lot of folks are forgetting why we moved away from the Pro Style offense to begin with. A Pro Style offense is much more difficult to learn and execute. The QB has to be very cerebral. The play book is much harder to learn. The route adjustments for the other offensive players can be difficult to read. How many times over the years did we hear so and so doesn't know the play book or so and so ran the wrong route. We want our players naturally reacting vs thinking too much. Lashlee's offense was simplistic and easy to learn, therefore easy to execute.

A lot of folks here making assumptions that Miami can capture what LSU did with Burrow and all those NFL draft picks he had on offense. Someone like Briles brings a more simplistic offense for immediate success. The Pro Style may take longer, maybe years to properly execute and have the right personnel for. Another thing LSU had was a significantly better OL. Something else that takes time for development.

Exactlyyyyy. And nothing anybody has said to defend Dorsey, is a response to that concern. Because there is no counter-argument. We wouldn’t know until the fall.

 

[MedleyCane]

This thread from a year ago may give some insight on what Mario is looking for at dc, but then again he didn’t hire any of these guys so who the **** knows. Some really good names and some some not so great ones. Let’s hope we are on the right side of the coin flip.

Nice find, G Reg1327.
Now watch one of the soFla pundits run with this posted info.