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hoops156 said:
CANE1775 said:
UMprodigy said:
why doesn"t he get the same love Teddy B gets?
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Maybe because Morris didn't play well at all against UF? If not for our defense that day, you'd have guys on here wanting to absolutely kill Morris. The kid looked like dog**** versus the Gaytors. Meanwhile, bridgewater looked pretty good against them. That's the main difference.
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Did morris play a better secondary this year than what bridgewater saw? i say morris played against a better group of corners than what teddy b. saw. morris didnt look amazing but his line wasnt giving him much protection and he did complete 2 nice passes for TDs. one happened to be the longest completion UF has allowed in years
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Morris may have played a better secondary, but I want to make a couple of points. First, statistically the UF defense form last year was **** good. They were top 5 in total defense, scoring defense,and pass efficiency. They were ranked 7th in passes intercepted. Their lowest ranking was 17th in pass defense. So, all in all, that was a darn good defense.

On to my second point; even if Morris did play a better set of corners, the fact remains that he didn't play well. You're not going to get the love when you don't play well. No one is going to say, "well even though he had a mediocre game he did play against a top notch defense so we're going to crown him anyway." That makes no sense.

Now with that said, I'm going to bow out of this because I be damned if I'm going to have to continue to indirectly give any props to the freakin Florida Gaytors.
 
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This is really a tough one. As much as I dislike TB, he is a little better then SM. I wouldnt trade SM for TM mind you. But its hard to gauge how good TB REALLY is because he plays against NOBODY. **** at least Geno Smith played in the Big 12. I BET YOU when draft time comes around that will be the knock on him. The fact that his entire career was based on playing teams that were comically inferior to him minus bowl games. His competition will almost quadruple (sp?) once he gets to mini-camp let alone a real NFL game. Can he make the adjustment?

And I agree with the folks that said UF mailed that Sugar Bowl game in. If they played 10 times, UF wins 9. Those guys had the same attitude our guys had in the 05' Peach Bowl. They were just tryna get the **** outta there win or lose.
 
I love Stephen, that's my QB and I love what he does for the school and how well he represents the U and how much he's developed the past few years.

But nope. Nope nope nope. Nope. Noooooooooooooope.

I don't give a **** about competition. Don't care who they're throwing to, don't care about their offenses and coaches. Isolate the players and evaluate the players. Noooooooooope.
 
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Dont care about competition? It took Alex Smith and Joe Flacco YEARS to finally adjust to the fact that they werent in the Mountain West or the WAC or whatever the **** conference they played in. Competition means something. Name me a big time QB in the NFL right now that played in a BS conference.
 
Jassid82 said:
Dont care about competition? It took Alex Smith and Joe Flacco YEARS to finally adjust to the fact that they werent in the Mountain West or the WAC or whatever the **** conference they played in. Competition means something. Name me a big time QB in the NFL right now that played in a BS conference.
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kaepernick, dalton, roethlisberger. and there are plenty of qb's in the nfl that played in great conferences and are absolutely terrible.
 
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True Dat..... Seriously, Golden has this team thinking as one, they're all on the same page..... Morris pulled himself out of last weeks game, so he would be fresh for this week.... Duke only had 14 carries last week, you didn't see him on the sideline pouting because he wanted more carries... Golden has these kids thinking of the big picture and I believe that we will see in the coming weeks a unified team that will roll into the ACC Championship Game...
 
I will give you Big Ben. But he is starting to come back to the pack now that PITT has no D and there running game is a joke. Cant blame that on him though. Dalton is not big time YET. Kaepernick ATM is a one year wonder. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Luck, RG3, Cam, Ryan. BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Romo and Big Ben are the only ones I will say did not play big time college ball and are legit stars.
 
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And furthermore, if the Jacksonville Jaguars want to put the franchise on the fact that 2-3 QBs have been able to make the adjustment from lower level conference ball to NFL stardom..Then all power to them.
 
Jassid82 said:
I will give you Big Ben. But he is starting to come back to the pack now that PITT has no D and there running game is a joke. Cant blame that on him though. Dalton is not big time YET. Kaepernick ATM is a one year wonder. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Luck, RG3, Cam, Ryan. BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Romo and Big Ben are the only ones I will say did not play big time college ball and are legit stars.
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i'm just going with immediate impact. you implied that playing in a lesser conference requires a big adjustment period like smith and flacco had. kaepernick came out and got his team to the super bowl. dalton was the first rookie quarterback in nfl history to throw for 3000 yards, 20 tds, and win 8 games. there is no correlation between a player's college competition and performance as a quarterback because it's such a cerebral position. there's so much more that's required upstairs to be a successful quarterback, which is why i honestly don't think morris is that great (yet). he hasn't proven to be able to make good decisions. he had a great year last year, but the jury is still out on whether that was him or fisch's offense (especially considering the turnaround that fisch put on jacory). he has plenty of upside and i really want him to succeed here and on the next level, but bridgewater has him beat in everything but arm strength.
 
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I will give you Big Ben. But he is starting to come back to the pack now that PITT has no D and there running game is a joke. Cant blame that on him though. Dalton is not big time YET. Kaepernick ATM is a one year wonder. Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Wilson, Luck, RG3, Cam, Ryan. BIG TIME COLLEGE FOOTBALL.

Romo and Big Ben are the only ones I will say did not play big time college ball and are legit stars.
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Currently - Phil Simms comes to mind as I'm sure several others are. The big 3 in the year Ben came out include, Eli Manning & Rivers (NC State). Not really sure if NCS was truly considered big time at that point. Sorry this thread is making me crazy.
 
Teddy Bridgewater struggled against Kentucky.....

if he was playing in the BIG 12, which aint much either, he'd be the next Geno Smith.

Jacory Harris wouldve been a Heisman contender in a Shotgun offense 24/7 like Teddy runs in Louisville.... its not impressive he's been running that same offense at Northwestern.

Will that translate to the NFL, maybe, but to say he's the legit #1 QB coming out this year, is a big OVERSTATEMENT. He is overrated in that regard.

Stephen Morris has made throws that i havent seen any QB in cfb make, and he was doing that last year. You can say consistency is an issue but if he was playing Louisvilles schedule last year and this year, there would be no issues.
 
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Teddy Bridgewater struggled against Kentucky.....

if he was playing in the BIG 12, which aint much either, he'd be the next Geno Smith.

Jacory Harris wouldve been a Heisman contender in a Shotgun offense 24/7 like Teddy runs in Louisville.... its not impressive he's been running that same offense at Northwestern.

Will that translate to the NFL, maybe, but to say he's the legit #1 QB coming out this year, is a big OVERSTATEMENT. He is overrated in that regard.

Stephen Morris has made throws that i havent seen any QB in cfb make, and he was doing that last year. You can say consistency is an issue but if he was playing Louisvilles schedule last year and this year, there would be no issues.
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So I take it you don't watch much Louisville?
 
dg151 said:
zone3cane said:
Teddy Bridgewater struggled against Kentucky.....

if he was playing in the BIG 12, which aint much either, he'd be the next Geno Smith.

Jacory Harris wouldve been a Heisman contender in a Shotgun offense 24/7 like Teddy runs in Louisville.... its not impressive he's been running that same offense at Northwestern.

Will that translate to the NFL, maybe, but to say he's the legit #1 QB coming out this year, is a big OVERSTATEMENT. He is overrated in that regard.

Stephen Morris has made throws that i havent seen any QB in cfb make, and he was doing that last year. You can say consistency is an issue but if he was playing Louisvilles schedule last year and this year, there would be no issues.
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So I take it you don't watch much Louisville?
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Teddy Bridgewater is a better qb but it remains to be seen how much better he is than the others. Kyle Wright would seem like a heisman contender playing that cupcake schedule. ..yes the Kyle wright. The schedule is that bad. Their closest encounter will be ucf
 
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dg151 said:
zone3cane said:
Teddy Bridgewater struggled against Kentucky.....

if he was playing in the BIG 12, which aint much either, he'd be the next Geno Smith.

Jacory Harris wouldve been a Heisman contender in a Shotgun offense 24/7 like Teddy runs in Louisville.... its not impressive he's been running that same offense at Northwestern.

Will that translate to the NFL, maybe, but to say he's the legit #1 QB coming out this year, is a big OVERSTATEMENT. He is overrated in that regard.

Stephen Morris has made throws that i havent seen any QB in cfb make, and he was doing that last year. You can say consistency is an issue but if he was playing Louisvilles schedule last year and this year, there would be no issues.
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So I take it you don't watch much Louisville?
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Teddy Bridgewater is a better qb but it remains to be seen how much better he is than the others. Kyle Wright would seem like a heisman contender playing that cupcake schedule. ..yes the Kyle wright. The schedule is that bad. Their closest encounter will be ucf
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Houston , Cincy, Rutgers, UCF ain't that bad. I mean for that conference. If UCF had sealed the deal against SCAR they'd be ranked right now.
 
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Morris is just like jay cutler those guys play off their arm talent. You see him and cutler both can make throws without setting their feet and can go on streaks where they look great but when they play better defensenses those throws turns into picks and incompletions. Morris is still raw at qb and he should have been given a rs but i think he has more potential than boyd,manziel and a few others.
 
I have to agree that Morris has the most upside of probably any QB available right now, but TB has more consistency, even if it is against cupcakes, so I'll ignore the consistency argument. Ultimately, the only real comparison is TB vs UF last year and Morris vs UF this yr. Morris looked like crap after the first quarter. TB looked good all game.
 
Morris has to put some games together now. If he can play four quarters like he did against USF (and UF 1st Qtr) he will be as good as anyone in college ball.

Inconsistant and injury gives him an incomplete so far in my book.
 
disappointed in you Zone...

That boy Tedyy > S.Morris

Morris might be a better NFL qb but Teddy better College QB
 
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