Shawn Burgess- Becker transferring

How can this be a debate? When you leave school after a year, you made the wrong choice. It's that simple. There is no need to dig your heels in on this, fellas.
 

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How can this be a debate? When you leave school after a year, you made the wrong choice. It's that simple. There is no need to dig your heels in on this, fellas.

The Even Steven crew and the Saban Worshippers feel the need to educate UM fans on how choosing someplace other than UM, especially if it's Bama, is always the right choice.

These esoteric guys are trying to find a way to quibble over something as clear cut as Becker making the obvious wrong choice by going somewhere where he only stuck for a year. These dudes love quibbling like hens.
 
So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.
The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.
Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.
There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.
Exactly.

You can't judge a decision made under uncertainty based on facts not known or even knowable at the time.

In retrospect, it is a decision that didn't work out. Should he have known? Hard to say. I'm sure Alabama sold him and made him feel it would be a good fit. They botched their decision too.

Should he have gone to UM under Gluten? Hard to say for sure but easy to see why maybe that wouldn't have been a good choice at the time.

Where should he have gone? No clue. Not Alabama, apparently.
 
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The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.
Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.
There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.
Exactly.

You can't judge a decision made under uncertainty based on facts not known or even knowable at the time.

In retrospect, it is a decision that didn't work out. Should he have known? Hard to say. I'm sure Alabama sold him and made him feel it would be a good fit. They botched their decision too.

Should he have gone to UM under Gluten? Hard to say for sure but easy to see why maybe that wouldn't have been a good choice at the time.

Where should he have gone? No clue. Not Alabama, apparently.

Didn't Mark turn us down too a few years ago? Getting fired changed his attitude; getting our rears kicked for years erased the memory of being rejected by him. Why should it be any different for this kid. Is he Miami caliber? Can he play? Do we have so much talent that he will never see the field? Is he in trouble? That is what matters. Last time I checked, we need help in secondary.
 
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Let's be real.... We all wanted him even before Calvin Ridley emergence as a top prospect... Shawn burgess Becker would be a great pickup, the kid is 6'1 210 as a safety and can run... We will be then after this year lets go ahead and fill a need with someone we know can play. Make no mistake this kid can play unfortunately he made the wrong choice out of highschool especially with bama having an abundance of high 5star/4star dbs on the team
 
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pass. he had his chance.

What chance was that ? Go from a first round draft pick to 4th because of some weak a$$ scheme the golden girls ran. Some of you need to pull your head out of your ***

If hes not good enough to play at Bama I don't want him here.

2 5star national players in front of him as a freshman warrants that type of comment?.... Bama is stacked at db and remember he's a freshman...
 
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you have to be sloppy seconds a while before you can be the big dog like 'Bama, boys. ;)

Sorry to be the truth bearer but he's a take. Is he better than a lot of our current secondary? Yep. He's a take.

Lmao at all the hardball tough guys who wouldn't take a 4 star db/athlete from S.Florida back (as a freshman) because he picked a stacked Bama program who happens to be a modern day dynasty.

Get over yourselves. We are not elite and need all the talent we can get.
 
Miami will not recruit. He had his chance. Kids think they can choose to go away from home and then Miami can be their safety blanket a year later...not happening.
 
Miami will not recruit. He had his chance. Kids think they can choose to go away from home and then Miami can be their safety blanket a year later...not happening.

Can't blame any kid for not wanting to play for Golden...
 
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