Shawn Burgess- Becker transferring

[AK_Cane]

I would be all for bringing him in but, like others have mentioned the talent we have pretty good shots with makes it easier to look the other way. If he was available this year, I would say go for it.

 

[The Franchise]

I say kick rocks. I would rather have Richt send a message that you don't get 2nd chances of you don't choose Miami out of hs. Different case when they get kicked out or go JUCO. Anything is better than taking a kid w limited eligibility just bc he was good in hs and had Miami ties. Shouldn't take him automatically bc he made a stupid decision and give him a do-over instead of living w it and learning like everyone else. Especially if he did have cooked grades and didn't even earn that in the first place. Plus him and Calvin both greatly disrespected Miami w that 7on7 thing anyway say I'd pass and be done w him like he did to us. Richt cares about making these kids men and all, but in this case the kid needs to be humbled and not be given/handed another break in his life and continue getting things he doesn't work for. Say no and move on without him, sorry had the chance and chose to be disrespectful...BYE

The kid made the right choice coming out of high school. That's the dirty truth.
Play for Al Golden at a six win program or play for national championships with Nick Saban.
It's not a hard sell. Everyone who wasn't a blinded UM fan saw by then that Golden was a used car salesman.

How can you claim he made the right choice when he only lasted a year at his choice? Stop repeating lame **** and use your coconut. He very clearly made the wrong choice.

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

 

[AK_Cane]

You choose a school for the University itself not a coach. I understand a lot of recruits choose for the coach. Which I personally believe is a mistake. The college coaching business is too unpredictable, chances are no matter the university you go to you will not have the same staff 3 years later.

 

[Cane6]

As much as I love UM football, I'd be hard pressed to want to play for Golden and Dorito if I was a hotshot defensive player.

 

[loreste]

No, don't want him, had his chance

 

[Boarcane]

no thank you
kick rocks

 

[PSU Cane]

I say kick rocks. I would rather have Richt send a message that you don't get 2nd chances of you don't choose Miami out of hs. Different case when they get kicked out or go JUCO. Anything is better than taking a kid w limited eligibility just bc he was good in hs and had Miami ties. Shouldn't take him automatically bc he made a stupid decision and give him a do-over instead of living w it and learning like everyone else. Especially if he did have cooked grades and didn't even earn that in the first place. Plus him and Calvin both greatly disrespected Miami w that 7on7 thing anyway say I'd pass and be done w him like he did to us. Richt cares about making these kids men and all, but in this case the kid needs to be humbled and not be given/handed another break in his life and continue getting things he doesn't work for. Say no and move on without him, sorry had the chance and chose to be disrespectful...BYE

The kid made the right choice coming out of high school. That's the dirty truth.
Play for Al Golden at a six win program or play for national championships with Nick Saban.
It's not a hard sell. Everyone who wasn't a blinded UM fan saw by then that Golden was a used car salesman.

It's only the truth if you are
A) Better than the others and able to play right away
B) Good enough and mentally strong enough to sit, learn, improve and THEN play......otherwise, sitting the bench year after year at Bama or transferring elsewhere (including sitting out, losing more time/reps and having to learn a new system) isn't always the "right choice" over playing at another program and being "the guy".

As bad as Golden and staff were, Burns (1st) and Bush (4th) still got drafted as DBs.

 

[PSU Cane]

You choose a school for the University itself not a coach. I understand a lot of recruits choose for the coach. Which I personally believe is a mistake. The college coaching business is too unpredictable, chances are no matter the university you go to you will not have the same staff 3 years later.

Disagree. You have to consider everything about the school and staff. It makes no sense to be a stud RB from Washington and go to Wazzu with Leach. It makes no sense to be a stud WR from Georgia and go to Tech with the option. It makes no sense to go to Bama if you are a 200lb HS ILB with a small frame. Scheme fits and coaches/philosophies have to play a role, as well as location, school, etc

 

[lauderdaleballer]

You choose a school for the University itself not a coach. I understand a lot of recruits choose for the coach. Which I personally believe is a mistake. The college coaching business is too unpredictable, chances are no matter the university you go to you will not have the same staff 3 years later.

Disagree. You have to consider everything about the school and staff. It makes no sense to be a stud RB from Washington and go to Wazzu with Leach. It makes no sense to be a stud WR from Georgia and go to Tech with the option. It makes no sense to go to Bama if you are a 200lb HS ILB with a small frame. Scheme fits and coaches/philosophies have to play a role, as well as location, school, etc

I totally agree... I don't really understand selecting a school because of a school.... You have to take all factors into consideration... Saban is pumping out 1st round DB's... Why not go there? The kid just wasn't better than who was in front of him... The same could of happen here... For student athletes coaches and scheme should always be a major factor into selecting a school... I don't really understand choosing a school for the university itself... We say that a lot but what does it mean? Blindly selecting a school? Kids just have to live with their decisions...

 

[Miamicane]

Does anyone actually know why he left? South Florida kid living in fcking Alabama lol maybe he just doesn't like it? Only played one year - how many freshman at bama don't make an immediate impact and still turn out legit?

 

[deerob305]

Same people here saying they dont want him, will be saying "oh, we should have went after him" once he balls...lol

 

[millertime26]

Grown *** men taking **** personnel

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Same people here saying they dont want him, will be saying "oh, we should have went after him" once he balls...lol

Oh I didn't when I seen the level of 2017 and 2018 dbs until I seen his size and speed

 

[Ethnicsands]

I say kick rocks. I would rather have Richt send a message that you don't get 2nd chances of you don't choose Miami out of hs. Different case when they get kicked out or go JUCO. Anything is better than taking a kid w limited eligibility just bc he was good in hs and had Miami ties. Shouldn't take him automatically bc he made a stupid decision and give him a do-over instead of living w it and learning like everyone else. Especially if he did have cooked grades and didn't even earn that in the first place. Plus him and Calvin both greatly disrespected Miami w that 7on7 thing anyway say I'd pass and be done w him like he did to us. Richt cares about making these kids men and all, but in this case the kid needs to be humbled and not be given/handed another break in his life and continue getting things he doesn't work for. Say no and move on without him, sorry had the chance and chose to be disrespectful...BYE

The kid made the right choice coming out of high school. That's the dirty truth.
Play for Al Golden at a six win program or play for national championships with Nick Saban.
It's not a hard sell. Everyone who wasn't a blinded UM fan saw by then that Golden was a used car salesman.

How can you claim he made the right choice when he only lasted a year at his choice? Stop repeating lame **** and use your coconut. He very clearly made the wrong choice.

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

 

[The Franchise]

The kid made the right choice coming out of high school. That's the dirty truth.
Play for Al Golden at a six win program or play for national championships with Nick Saban.
It's not a hard sell. Everyone who wasn't a blinded UM fan saw by then that Golden was a used car salesman.

How can you claim he made the right choice when he only lasted a year at his choice? Stop repeating lame **** and use your coconut. He very clearly made the wrong choice.

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

 

[Tano]

How can you claim he made the right choice when he only lasted a year at his choice? Stop repeating lame **** and use your coconut. He very clearly made the wrong choice.

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.

 

[cane since birth]

How can you claim he made the right choice when he only lasted a year at his choice? Stop repeating lame **** and use your coconut. He very clearly made the wrong choice.

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

Spot on

 

[The Franchise]

So the only right choice is the one that ends up with him as an all-american? I think what he was trying to say is the guy didn't want to play for a lame-duck coach and a terrible D-coordinator. Its not like we are producing incredible safeties over the golden years.

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.

So you know all the information available at the time and have determined Alabama was the right choice even though it clearly proved to be the wrong choice in the end? You know Becker and his personality and his ability to succeed being away from his family and support system? You know how Becker's personality and way of doing things meshed with Saban and his staff? You know how much Becker liked living in shythole Alabama?

I think you know nothing other than Saban is better than Folden even though this was never a UM issue for me. I don't even know if UM was Becker's actual second choice. All I know is claiming it was the right choice even though he left after one year makes no sense.

 

[Southcane]

The right choice is one that doesn't result in you leaving after a year and starting over somewhere else. You're getting too emotional over what should be a very simple issue. He very clearly made the wrong choice for himself.

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.

So you know all the information available at the time and have determined Alabama was the right choice even though it clearly proved to be the wrong choice in the end? You know Becker and his personality and his ability to succeed being away from his family and support system? You know how Becker's personality and way of doing things meshed with Saban and his staff? You know how much Becker liked living in shythole Alabama?

I think you know nothing other than Saban is better than Folden even though this was never a UM issue for me. I don't even know if UM was Becker's actual second choice. All I know is claiming it was the right choice even though he left after one year makes no sense.

I think people confuse the "right decision" not to come to Miami with the "wrong decision" to go to Alabama. He made both. Just because he didn't come to Miami (good decision) doesn't make going to Alabama is a well thought out good decision.

 

[The Franchise]

Plenty of guys left UM under gluten also. You can't judge a choice with hindsight -- you have to go on what he knew at the time.

Guys who left UM after one year made the wrong choice too. I don't get why that's such a tough concept. You never once saw me say Becker should have chosen UM. This isn't a homer issue where you need to school me up on how UM isn't always a great choice.

Becker might have thought he was making the right choice at the time, but that doesn't mean it was the right choice. Everyone thinks they're making the right choice when they make it, or they wouldn't make that choice.

Most choices are ultimately judged by the results of the choice. I'm sure UM thought it made the right choice when it hired Folden.

There's little to no value in playing Monday morning quarterback and evaluating the choice after its played put and we have all the information at our disposal. Esands' point is that the choice had to be evaluated based on the information available at the time.

So you know all the information available at the time and have determined Alabama was the right choice even though it clearly proved to be the wrong choice in the end? You know Becker and his personality and his ability to succeed being away from his family and support system? You know how Becker's personality and way of doing things meshed with Saban and his staff? You know how much Becker liked living in shythole Alabama?

I think you know nothing other than Saban is better than Folden even though this was never a UM issue for me. I don't even know if UM was Becker's actual second choice. All I know is claiming it was the right choice even though he left after one year makes no sense.

I think people confuse the "right decision" not to come to Miami with the "wrong decision" to go to Alabama. He made both. Just because he didn't come to Miami (good decision) doesn't make going to Alabama is a well thought out good decision.

We have no idea if not coming to UM was the "right decision" because he didn't come here. Had he come to UM, he might be thriving personally and athletically. We have no idea. What we do know is that he chose Alabama, and a year later he doesn't want to be there, so it was pretty obviously the wrong place for him.