SFbay's Random Thoughts from the uf Game

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* In pro sports there's an expression that says, "There's no such thing as an 'ugly win' in the post season." In CFB that translates to, "There's no such thing as an ugly win against your rivals." Given that... Yesterday's win was a Da Vinci portrait overlaid on a Monet landscape. It will become more and more priceless over time.

* The single biggest difference between this year and last is the success of the Utough program. You see it most directly in the open field tackling. Over the last several years we saw our defenses show an inability to get off the field primarily because every carry netted our opponents and extra 3+ yards before we could get them to the ground. Make no mistake, Matt Jones is a beast of a running back who will have a very solid season, yet he got very few yards after contact yesterday. The on-field difference is amazing.

* My concerns about Stephen Morris continue. In the biggest game of his career, he had his worst performance. I will temper this comment with the next 2 bullet points.

* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct. I have very serious concerns about coach Coley as a game-planner and play caller. Why he continued to roll Stephen Morris to the short side, against him throwing arm is something I find inexplicable. As well, the predictability of his play calling was kinda scary. Once teams get enough film on Coley's UM offense, I fear that it may cost us a game that we wouldnt otherwise lose. We know he was brought in for his recruiting prowess, which is a known asset, but his gameday work MUST improve tremendously for us to win a national title.

* Last year Stephen Morris developed a really nice on-field vibe with Rashaun Scott. He was our best receiver last year. For some reason our coaching staff decided to bury him on the depth chart. I believe that is hurting Stephen Morris more than we realize. I've always known that QB's have a "go-to" guy that they use when nothing else works, for Morris in 2012 that was Rashaun Scott. Scott's best attribute is his ability to catch the ball while being covered. We have yet to find anyone else in our WR corps who can replace that. (I used to joke that whenever Ken Dorsey got in trouble he would just chuck the ******' ball in the general direction of Jeremy Shockey knowing that Shockey would likely come down with it.) That was the dynamic between Morris and Scott last year. We needed that element yesterday.

* As much as it pains me to type this, I must. FRANCHISE IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT (ouch :) ) That uf front seven is as dominant of a front 7 as you'll see in CFB. We will not see anything near the level of that unit until we face Alabama in the title game...(slow your roll there SFbay... :) )

* Im not a fan of Duke Johnson on kickoffs. The return game is a wholly different animal that running from scrimmage. Duke's biggest skillset comes from his ability to go from 2nd to 4th gear faster than anyone else. That's kinda useless in the return game where the skillset is sprinter speed with a couple of minor direction changes. I'd like to see a Herb Waters or Stacy Coley back there; Or others, but not our horse.

* An under-rated play in this game was coach muschamp going for 2 after their 1st TD. I dont know why he felt the need to channel his inner Chip Kelly but that move really cost uf more than met the eye. They had stolen the momentum with the blocked punt and quick TD, yet when they kicked off we still had the lead. Quality stop by our special teams D on that play.

* We NEVER trailed in this game. HUGE!!!

* For the first time in 2+ years I think we were able to evaluate coach Dorito. My take: He called a near perfect game and was totally on-point with his schematic planning. The only criticism I had of him was the one drive where we had a 2 score lead, Dorito wen to a prevent and we gave up a fast TD. That was the only drive of the game where we used a 3 man line. Aside from that one drive, his plan and execution were superb IMO.

* Final analysis on yesterday's game: The Canes are epic and the gators suck. Those of us who are long enough in the tooth knew this the whole time, it's just so wonderful to see the current and future generations of Canes fans learn this as well. As always, It's great to be...
 
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i agree on the kickoff analysis, was it just me or did duke look like he didnt have the same explosiveness yesterday i wonder is something hurting him, i'd say rest him completely for savannah st
 
I agree. Maybe this is more true if you're older than 30, but there are few things better than beating the Gator. it doesn't matter if it's 2-0, 48-0, or 21-16.
 
So one game in his career Duke goes without a monster play on special teams, and now he should be taken off of them?

Whatever.
 
I dont understand this whole idea that the ppl who have concerns about Coley have been proven "correct"?
 
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So one game in his career Duke goes without a monster play on special teams, and now he should be taken off of them?

Whatever.
naw not for that reason, i just think he's too important to the offense to risk injury on special teams
 
I dont understand this whole idea that the ppl who have concerns about Coley have been proven "correct"?
Agreed, same thing goes for D'nofrio's as a world beating DC now. We have 10 more games to judge both of them
 
2nd point is the biggest I think. The renewed focus on strength and conditioning allowed us to match the physicality of what is certainly a top five line in all of college football.

I would even go so far as to say that we beat them even with an under-recruited talent pool - thru the natural attrition of any regime change, the self-imposed scholarship reductions and the kids we lost due to the spectre of NCAA sanctions, the UTough program won this game.
 
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So one game in his career Duke goes without a monster play on special teams, and now he should be taken off of them?

Whatever.


I often dont respond to your posts because I see you as a contrarian by nature. :p That said, I took a moment to look up last year's NCAA return leaders (after writing the OP), Im actually quite surprised at how much the numbers disagree with my take above. Duke Johnson was #7 in the nation in total average return yardage last year and actually had the best overall average on kickoffs only. Wow. The number force me to say I stand corrected. I must relent to an extent. My concerns about over-usage of our horse remain.


link to the 2012 #'s: http://espn.go.com/college-football...stat/returning/sort/kickReturnYards/year/2012
 
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* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct.

Good one. Because Fisch sure showed his offensive genius during the ND and KSU games last year. You're reaching way to hard with this.


Lets put this bogus argument to rest right now: We got shoved around in those games last year. The difference in those games had ZERO to do with play calling and everything to do with the Utough comment I made in the OP.
 
So one game in his career Duke goes without a monster play on special teams, and now he should be taken off of them?

Whatever.


I often dont respond to your posts because I see you as a contrarian by nature. :p That said, I took a moment to look up last year's NCAA return leaders (after writing the OP), Im actually quite surprised at how much the numbers disagree with my take above. Duke Johnson was #7 in the nation in total average return yardage last year and actually had the best overall average on kickoffs only. Wow. The number force me to say I stand corrected. I must relent to an extent. My concerns about over-usage of our horse remain.


link to the 2012 #'s: http://espn.go.com/college-football...stat/returning/sort/kickReturnYards/year/2012

The fact that you think I am a contrarian is absurd (oops!)

But you expect me to sit here and read comments criticizing Duke on kickoffs and not say something?
 
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* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct.

Good one. Because Fisch sure showed his offensive genius during the ND and KSU games last year. You're reaching way to hard with this.


Lets put this bogus argument to rest right now: We got shoved around in those games last year. The difference in those games had ZERO to do with play calling and everything to do with the Utough comment I made in the OP.

We didn't get "shoved around" yesterday on offense? What the **** game were you watching?
 
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So one game in his career Duke goes without a monster play on special teams, and now he should be taken off of them?

Whatever.
naw not for that reason, i just think he's too important to the offense to risk injury on special teams

That's valid going forward, especially in weaker games. There's no doubt we needed him against UiF though and you will see him returning kicks in every big game we play. Last year he was one of the best returners in the country.
 
I dont understand this whole idea that the ppl who have concerns about Coley have been proven "correct"?

Again, we will need a bigger body of evidence but the evidence is growing. I look at how bad Jacory looked for 3 years and how much better he looked under coach Fisch. i look at Stephen Morris last year versus the first two weeks this year. And Im also using my football sense. I saw some really questionable play calling yesterday, even the announcers were calling him out for it.

Lets agree to call this a continuing debate as the season progresses.
 
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* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct.

Good one. Because Fisch sure showed his offensive genius during the ND and KSU games last year. You're reaching way to hard with this.


Lets put this bogus argument to rest right now: We got shoved around in those games last year. The difference in those games had ZERO to do with play calling and everything to do with the Utough comment I made in the OP.

We didn't get "shoved around" yesterday on offense? What the **** game were you watching?

UiF has top 5 pick talent on their defensive line. Flowers is our only OL that has that type of ceiling and it showed yesterday for sure. At some point the UTough can only take you so far (I guess.....I hope)
 
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I disagree with your Scott analysis. Morris had his most efficient stretch of games of his career when Scott was out suspended the last few games last year. I think Morris just has not improved like we hoped largely because we are running a new offense. That was the only reason I was worried about losing Fisch. Not because he was so great but because it was another offense Morris and boys had to learn. You aren't going to be at your best in the 2nd game of a new system against a defense as good as UF's. I think they will be fine as the season goes on but we need to be patient.
 
I'm on the Scott bandwagon as well (See SFBay:))

He was at times, our best WR last year and has a huge future in front of him. Losing him was devastating, especially since Malc is still not 100%. He brings certain skills that our other guys just don't have.

Waters is getting there but getting Scott back is going to give us a huge boost.
 
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* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct.

Good one. Because Fisch sure showed his offensive genius during the ND and KSU games last year. You're reaching way to hard with this.


Lets put this bogus argument to rest right now: We got shoved around in those games last year. The difference in those games had ZERO to do with play calling and everything to do with the Utough comment I made in the OP.

We didn't get "shoved around" yesterday on offense? What the **** game were you watching?


If you were watching the games, answer this: Are we more or less strong along the lines this year or last? As well, in those games last year we were constantly behind. We never trailed yesterday; Makes a huge difference in play calling.

More directly, just watching the play calling, coach Fisch has showed a very strong understanding of how to attack a defense, much more so than Coley has shown at either FSU or UM (to date). When the NFL comes calling with big dollars for coach Coley then I'll relent on this point, until then, my concerns remain (please dont ***** out and take this last sentence in the most literal context- lol)
 
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* The people who said we would miss coach Fisch are being proven correct.

Good one. Because Fisch sure showed his offensive genius during the ND and KSU games last year. You're reaching way to hard with this.


Lets put this bogus argument to rest right now: We got shoved around in those games last year. The difference in those games had ZERO to do with play calling and everything to do with the Utough comment I made in the OP.

We didn't get "shoved around" yesterday on offense? What the **** game were you watching?

UiF has top 5 pick talent on their defensive line. Flowers is our only OL that has that type of ceiling and it showed yesterday for sure. At some point the UTough can only take you so far (I guess.....I hope)

I recognize the talent disparity in my post for a variety of reasons. That is also why I credit the offseason focus on S&C. We never loss he lead. We responded when we had to and our D didn't get pushed around.

What I though we sorely lacked yesterday was a true power back. Duke is explosive but we needed a true grinder yesterday.
 
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