Ryan Williams

[SFbayCane]

Too late. Don't want Williams first start coming at Doak in primetime. Ride of die with Morris.

I've never understood this mentality.

If you know you're going to die with Morris, wouldn't you ride with someone else? Cos we're going to die with Morris.

Just so we're clear, the issue here is your lack of understanding. In real life that's exactly how it is. You dance with the girl you came with. Just how it is.

Even if she had nothing to do with you being there?

Yes. Thats how it is.

 

[Pixelated bukake]

Too late. Don't want Williams first start coming at Doak in primetime. Ride of die with Morris.

I've never understood this mentality.

If you know you're going to die with Morris, wouldn't you ride with someone else? Cos we're going to die with Morris.

Just so we're clear, the issue here is your lack of understanding. In real life that's exactly how it is. You dance with the girl you came with. Just how it is.

Even if she had nothing to do with you being there?

I am not a fan of how Morris plays at times. But to analogize that he has had 'nothing to do' with the team being 7-0 is intellectually dishonest.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

Perhaps Ryan Williams isn't that good... Too be fair I was never impressed with him prior to his transfer but its been 3 years since he's been a cane... I'm starting to think that maybe the staff doesn't trust him similar to John Brantley at UF... One thing that has opened our playbook up is the deep ball and I don't believe Williams would have been able to make the throw against UF or any of those deep passes against our opponents... Sooner or later we'll see Williams but I believe theres a reason he's a back up...

 

[M3N]

Perhaps Ryan Williams isn't that good... Too be fair I was never impressed with him prior to his transfer but its been 3 years since he's been a cane... I'm starting to think that maybe the staff doesn't trust him similar to John Brantley at UF... One thing that has opened our playbook up is the deep ball and I don't believe Williams would have been able to make the throw against UF or any of those deep passes against our opponents... Sooner or later we'll see Williams but I believe theres a reason he's a back up...

I personally think Morris end of the year stats aided to his strangle hold as the starter. Morris is playing like he did his Soph year. The coaches simply just don't trust him. Also I think there are too many negative consequences that may occur if we bench Morris. If Morris was to be benched, it would of happened by week 3/4. At this point you just have to ride with J12 clone and hope he doesn't hand the game over. Unfortunately, we really need him to win. Against teams like FSU, VT, and Va we won't be able to just turn it on and run down their throat.

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I get what you're saying M3N, but I just don't believe Williams is better... theres a reason why he is the back up...

 

[M3N]

I get what you're saying M3N, but I just don't believe Williams is better... theres a reason why he is the back up...

I agree to an extent, but what Morris is showing is pathetic. You think Williams throws 4 picks against a pathetic UNC team? Morris was quoted the other day that "if his 1st and 2nd read were not there, live for another down." -- that is awfully telling about Morris's capabilities. Simply put, he can't read a defense and scan the field. Morris has been "our" guy for a while and the only reason why he isn't benched is bc it could destroy the team.

 

[bomb]

Morris is too hurt. College football is a lot about broken plays and improvising and taking off and getting first downs and moving the chains.

It's sad to watch Morris. After huge completions (including touchdowns), he limps down the field, rather than run like every qb in the country. Our offense is hamstrung with a limp, immobile quarterback, who can't flush out of the pocket and make plays--so he forces INTs.

Don't care what anyone says. Until Duke carried the ball on for the last TD, Williams is not 10 points worse than Morris. Canes literally had 10 points until the end of the game.

Ryan Williams is more cerebral, poise--and has a great command and grasp for the offense. Doesn't have the physical arm strength as Morris--but would have led the offense on more sustained and efficient drives and got more than 10 points, than the fluke circus-catch bombs that Morris provides.

Williams, who we've only seen in mop up duty vs the 2nd string of terrible teams is more "cerebral" that black- I mean Morris?

Smh. I've seen this thread before. It's usually on the Alabama board though.

 

[M3N]

Morris is too hurt. College football is a lot about broken plays and improvising and taking off and getting first downs and moving the chains.

It's sad to watch Morris. After huge completions (including touchdowns), he limps down the field, rather than run like every qb in the country. Our offense is hamstrung with a limp, immobile quarterback, who can't flush out of the pocket and make plays--so he forces INTs.

Don't care what anyone says. Until Duke carried the ball on for the last TD, Williams is not 10 points worse than Morris. Canes literally had 10 points until the end of the game.

Ryan Williams is more cerebral, poise--and has a great command and grasp for the offense. Doesn't have the physical arm strength as Morris--but would have led the offense on more sustained and efficient drives and got more than 10 points, than the fluke circus-catch bombs that Morris provides.

Williams, who we've only seen in mop up duty vs the 2nd string of terrible teams is more "cerebral" that black- I mean Morris?

Smh. I've seen this thread before. It's usually on the Alabama board though.

Get over yourself. Morris is severely lacking between the ears.

 

[UMFarArcher]

Were are undefeated and u are suggesting the only way we'll know with Williams is to try??
U try w Williams when the season is lost or the game is out of reach. We don't need to "try" right now and risk a disaster or a loss.
I agree Morris is up and down and seems to have lost some confidence, but, there are still a ton of throws he can make that Williams can't.
Morris still gives us our best chance to win.

Up and down? I'm waiting for the first "UP" game.

And there are a ton of throws that Williams can make that Morris can't.

 

[sebastian91]

Stupiderest. Fanbase. Ever.

 

[HurricaneU]

Were are undefeated and u are suggesting the only way we'll know with Williams is to try??
U try w Williams when the season is lost or the game is out of reach. We don't need to "try" right now and risk a disaster or a loss.
I agree Morris is up and down and seems to have lost some confidence, but, there are still a ton of throws he can make that Williams can't.
Morris still gives us our best chance to win.

Up and down? I'm waiting for the first "UP" game.

And there are a ton of throws that Williams can make that Morris can't.

What throws?

 

[Gatorhater]

We are undefeated and Morris lead three come from behind wins. I like Williams but he was just looked good in a couple of games that we in hand. If there was any chance of playing him against FSU he needed to start the last two games. Question, Saturday night, there is 40 seconds to go and we are down by 2 because our D has played great. We get ball on our 35. Who do you want at QB?

 

[M3N]

We are undefeated and Morris lead three come from behind wins. I like Williams but he was just looked good in a couple of games that we in hand. If there was any chance of playing him against FSU he needed to start the last two games. Question, Saturday night, there is 40 seconds to go and we are down by 2 because our D has played great. We get ball on our 35. Who do you want at QB?

Duke

 

[Prince_Boll]

Morris is too hurt. College football is a lot about broken plays and improvising and taking off and getting first downs and moving the chains.

It's sad to watch Morris. After huge completions (including touchdowns), he limps down the field, rather than run like every qb in the country. Our offense is hamstrung with a limp, immobile quarterback, who can't flush out of the pocket and make plays--so he forces INTs.

Don't care what anyone says. Until Duke carried the ball on for the last TD, Williams is not 10 points worse than Morris. Canes literally had 10 points until the end of the game.

Ryan Williams is more cerebral, poise--and has a great command and grasp for the offense. Doesn't have the physical arm strength as Morris--but would have led the offense on more sustained and efficient drives and got more than 10 points, than the fluke circus-catch bombs that Morris provides.

Agreed, I mean, why play a quarter back who has arguably the strongest arm in college football, over a quarterback who completed 80% of his passes against a very very stout Savannah State defense!! good thinking!

 

[spacenegroes]

yall ****** intentionally and defiantly standing behind logical fallacies in this thread.

1. we dont know how good williams truly is.
2. we do know how ****** morris is.
3. unless williams is, in reality, way worse than he looks, he's probably smarter and doesnt panic as much as morris.
4. i don't care if we're 0-7 or 7-0, bad play is bad play. aint nobody sayin "yo we 7-0, you cant bench your starting WDE!!! you gots to dance wid da gurl dat BRUNG YOU!!!11"

 

[Crazy4thecanes]

I wish Williams had played more prior to Saturday for the simple reason that if Morris gets hurt we have a proven back up that will be thrown into primetime. I suppose, in that case, we are all going to find out who's right and who's wrong in this thread.

 

[arcane]

Too late. Don't want Williams first start coming at Doak in primetime. Ride of die with Morris.

I've never understood this mentality.

If you know you're going to die with Morris, wouldn't you ride with someone else? Cos we're going to die with Morris.

We don't know that we are going to die with Morris any more than we know that we would win with Ryan Williams. I feel that we have a better chance with Morris, you apparently don't. That's what makes horse racing or, in this case, that's what makes bookies rich.

 

[rudebuddha]

Morris is too hurt. College football is a lot about broken plays and improvising and taking off and getting first downs and moving the chains.

It's sad to watch Morris. After huge completions (including touchdowns), he limps down the field, rather than run like every qb in the country. Our offense is hamstrung with a limp, immobile quarterback, who can't flush out of the pocket and make plays--so he forces INTs.

Don't care what anyone says. Until Duke carried the ball on for the last TD, Williams is not 10 points worse than Morris. Canes literally had 10 points until the end of the game.

Ryan Williams is more cerebral, poise--and has a great command and grasp for the offense. Doesn't have the physical arm strength as Morris--but would have led the offense on more sustained and efficient drives and got more than 10 points, than the fluke circus-catch bombs that Morris provides.

You have to get back on your meds.

Williams has played in one game at Miami when he was asked to step up and win the game for us and he didn't.
Don't tell me how well he did playing flag football against FAU, Savanah Junior High School, or that red headed step child from Tampa.

I hope Williams becomes Steve Walsh next year after sitting and learning from Morris, but this is Stephen Morris' team.

We would not be undefeated right now if Williams started for us all year.
We may not have given up many sacks, but that sure doesn't mean Morris hasn't been hit. A gimpy Morris is still more mobile than Williams.

We are 7-0 right?

 

[theu4lyfe]

Horrendous analysis.

If Morris hasn't been atrocious, then the Canes wouldn't need Dallas Crawford or Duke Johnson to literally win games on the last drives.

Back to original question: What is Morris giving you over Williams? You can't say a turnover-less, game manager. Morris is either going three and out and KILLING the defense or throwing interceptions.

This team is 7-0 in SPITE of Morris. This team is in close games that need running backs to bail him out BECAUSE of Morris.

 

[nycane]

Horrendous analysis.

If Morris hasn't been atrocious, then the Canes wouldn't need Dallas Crawford or Duke Johnson to literally win games on the last drives.

Back to original question: What is Morris giving you over Williams? You can't say a turnover-less, game manager. Morris is either going three and out and KILLING the defense or throwing interceptions.

This team is 7-0 in SPITE of Morris. This team is in close games that need running backs to bail him out BECAUSE of Morris.

you said it perfect "in spite of". how as a senior who played so much do you still panic. he never looks in control.