Roundup on Stephen Morris post-Senior Bowl - NOT PRETTY

That 1st round **** got to his head and he didn't put in the work.. f**k him..


I don't think it was a lack of work ethic. The kid was never a first rounder. Then he got injured, and was sailing everything. Once that happened, he lost all confidence, and never recovered. You cannot be a productive QB and lack confidence.
 
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With all the negs I get here, I was the one who said he sucked since that Maryland game, and I only had a weak moment after the USF game, where he looked decent, and I thought he might be alright, for like 5 days.


When I see a QB who is not smart, with eyes the size of grapefruits everytime he drops back, and as slow mentally and physically as the Mummy (the Karloff Mummy, not the athletic one in the Brendon Frazier rtemakes), I say "How did Golden not see this, or do ANYTHING about it?"

He was AWFUL against every average or better team we face for 4 years!
 
With all the negs I get here, I was the one who said he sucked since that Maryland game, and I only had a weak moment after the USF game, where he looked decent, and I thought he might be alright, for like 5 days.


When I see a QB who is not smart, with eyes the size of grapefruits everytime he drops back, and as slow mentally and physically as the Mummy (the Karloff Mummy, not the athletic one in the Brendon Frazier rtemakes), I say "How did Golden not see this, or do ANYTHING about it?"

He was AWFUL against every average or better team we face for 4 years!

Our camp is the small one. I would love to hear from someone who played the QB position. A couple of the folks here whose knowledge I respect said the talent was there, but it was not developed and he regressed (for whatever reason).

Three and out Morris has really hypnotized us all with his random good throws hasn't he? At rare times he's been Marino, a lot of times he's been like John Hadl, but mostly he's been Pee Wee Herman.
 
If he was a 6'3, 6'4 kid he might have a chance to make a roster, but at barely 6'0 its a wrap for him.
 
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He was a carbon copy of Brock Berlin. Abominable short pass accuracy, incedibly slow (never saw a slower runner or thinker), no down and distance awareness, and unable to make any reads whatsoever.

Like Brock, he ran, with 30 yards of green in front of him, only when it was too late, then he ran slow, and looked to run out of bounds before the marker.

That famous Berlin run, when we were tied against VT and inside their 35, in 2004, when Berlin had a green light all the way to the end zone, and ran in slow motion, allowing an end from the weak side to gain 10 yards on him before he ran 1 yard, and dropped the he ball on the ground, fell away and cowered, was THE defionitive Morris play.


AWFUL, is what Morris was against average (Average in the Coastal means "Terrible") opponents.
 
I'll never understand why noone ever points out the big drops and horrible play calling. Morris definitely regressed this year (It honestly seemed like a confidence thing more than anything else. He never looked comfortable from day 1 this season), but Coley's predictable play calling didn't do any favors. Then we lost our running game with Duke, so defenses didn't have to put a lot of focus on the run game. Coley reminds me a lot of Whipple and loves verticals way too often. Morris's strength is his arm, but it's not a strength anymore when you're running 2-3 guys on vertical routes nearly every passing play and the defense is expecting it. Coley is the only major factor that changed this season, but people are so quick to brush that aside as a non factor. Coley has some potential as an OC as there were some nice stretches of play calls at times, but just like Morris, it's inconsistent at best.
 
I'll never understand why noone ever points out the big drops and horrible play calling. Morris definitely regressed this year (It honestly seemed like a confidence thing more than anything else. He never looked comfortable from day 1 this season), but Coley's predictable play calling didn't do any favors. Then we lost our running game with Duke, so defenses didn't have to put a lot of focus on the run game. Coley reminds me a lot of Whipple and loves verticals way too often. Morris's strength is his arm, but it's not a strength anymore when you're running 2-3 guys on vertical routes nearly every passing play and the defense is expecting it. Coley is the only major factor that changed this season, but people are so quick to brush that aside as a non factor. Coley has some potential as an OC as there were some nice stretches of play calls at times, but just like Morris, it's inconsistent at best.

I'll never understand why some of you can't understand he's always sucked. Watch next year with Williams as QB and how we move the sticks, how the ball is distributed and use the whole field. Those less astute will attribute it to Coley maturing as a play caller, when in reality it's the guy pulling the trigger. Watch.
 
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I'll never understand why some of you can't understand he's always sucked. Watch next year with Williams as QB and how we move the sticks, how the ball is distributed and use the whole field. Those less astute will attribute it to Coley maturing as a play caller, when in reality it's the guy pulling the trigger. Watch.

He must've fooled our coaches, because on and off the record they were geeked about Morris coming into 2013. They loved everything he was doing and truly felt they had one of the elite quarterbacks in the country. Something changed.

He was money in spring and threw dimes all over the spring game. But from the beginning of August camp, he struggled. You could see it on those Canes Camp highlights. All of the INTs were Morris and most of the big plays were Williams. Everything I heard out of Greentree was that Morris was playing horrible. There were people inside who, back in 2012, laughed at the Morris/Williams competition. Now they were wondering if Williams would end up playing.

Why did this happen? The Fisch factor is legit. There are some rumblings that Morris's personal relationships distracted him. Having to compensate for this horrendous defense gave him some bad habits. More than anything, I believe the off-season hype hurt him. Jacory had a similar regression, and only began playing better once he was humbled and got with Fisch. I thought Morris would be mature enough to handle that, but the evidence suggests he wasn't.

I still think the guy is the best we've had since Dorsey. But that's a low bar, and the fact that I have to argue it proves that he was a tremendous disappointment.
 
We haven't recruited a good QB since the late 90's. It's scary.

Morris had worse numbers under Fisch. He was always bad, but ALL AIRRAID offenses make players look better against below average defenses.
 
We haven't recruited a good QB since the late 90's. It's scary.

Morris had worse numbers under Fisch. He was always bad, but ALL AIRRAID offenses make players look better against below average defenses.

We haven't developed a good QB either.
 
I'll never understand why some of you can't understand he's always sucked. Watch next year with Williams as QB and how we move the sticks, how the ball is distributed and use the whole field. Those less astute will attribute it to Coley maturing as a play caller, when in reality it's the guy pulling the trigger. Watch.

He must've fooled our coaches, because on and off the record they were geeked about Morris coming into 2013. They loved everything he was doing and truly felt they had one of the elite quarterbacks in the country. Something changed.

He was money in spring and threw dimes all over the spring game. But from the beginning of August camp, he struggled. You could see it on those Canes Camp highlights. All of the INTs were Morris and most of the big plays were Williams. Everything I heard out of Greentree was that Morris was playing horrible. There were people inside who, back in 2012, laughed at the Morris/Williams competition. Now they were wondering if Williams would end up playing.

Why did this happen? The Fisch factor is legit. There are some rumblings that Morris's personal relationships distracted him. Having to compensate for this horrendous defense gave him some bad habits. More than anything, I believe the off-season hype hurt him. Jacory had a similar regression, and only began playing better once he was humbled and got with Fisch. I thought Morris would be mature enough to handle that, but the evidence suggests he wasn't.

I still think the guy is the best we've had since Dorsey. But that's a low bar, and the fact that I have to argue it proves that he was a tremendous disappointment.

I don't really give a **** what he's done on the practice field.....never been to a practice. I use my two eyes on game day and against decent competition he's been nothing but horrible for 4 years.

If Williams is making the same mistakes that the giraffe is making next year, then I'll listen to the cry's about "development and coaching" until then, Morris is what we thought he was.......not very good. One good three game stretch against terrible defenses at the end of 2012 doesn't equal upward trend to me. He was a bad QB in 12' and a bad QB in 13'.
 
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I'll never understand why noone ever points out the big drops and horrible play calling. Morris definitely regressed this year (It honestly seemed like a confidence thing more than anything else. He never looked comfortable from day 1 this season), but Coley's predictable play calling didn't do any favors. Then we lost our running game with Duke, so defenses didn't have to put a lot of focus on the run game. Coley reminds me a lot of Whipple and loves verticals way too often. Morris's strength is his arm, but it's not a strength anymore when you're running 2-3 guys on vertical routes nearly every passing play and the defense is expecting it. Coley is the only major factor that changed this season, but people are so quick to brush that aside as a non factor. Coley has some potential as an OC as there were some nice stretches of play calls at times, but just like Morris, it's inconsistent at best.

I'll never understand why some of you can't understand he's always sucked. Watch next year with Williams as QB and how we move the sticks, how the ball is distributed and use the whole field. Those less astute will attribute it to Coley maturing as a play caller, when in reality it's the guy pulling the trigger. Watch.

Williams won't have a good season next year. His arm is to weak unless Reggie Wayne Santana bubba Frank's and najeh my brother and edge gonna walk back through um doors i don't see it.
 
I'll never understand why some of you can't understand he's always sucked. Watch next year with Williams as QB and how we move the sticks, how the ball is distributed and use the whole field. Those less astute will attribute it to Coley maturing as a play caller, when in reality it's the guy pulling the trigger. Watch.

He must've fooled our coaches, because on and off the record they were geeked about Morris coming into 2013. They loved everything he was doing and truly felt they had one of the elite quarterbacks in the country. Something changed.

He was money in spring and threw dimes all over the spring game. But from the beginning of August camp, he struggled. You could see it on those Canes Camp highlights. All of the INTs were Morris and most of the big plays were Williams. Everything I heard out of Greentree was that Morris was playing horrible. There were people inside who, back in 2012, laughed at the Morris/Williams competition. Now they were wondering if Williams would end up playing.

Why did this happen? The Fisch factor is legit. There are some rumblings that Morris's personal relationships distracted him. Having to compensate for this horrendous defense gave him some bad habits. More than anything, I believe the off-season hype hurt him. Jacory had a similar regression, and only began playing better once he was humbled and got with Fisch. I thought Morris would be mature enough to handle that, but the evidence suggests he wasn't.

I still think the guy is the best we've had since Dorsey. But that's a low bar, and the fact that I have to argue it proves that he was a tremendous disappointment.

Maybe it is another classic case of our Defense making mediocre QB's look like Heisman trophy candidates? Just saying.
 
Williams won't have a good season next year. His arm is to weak unless Reggie Wayne Santana bubba Frank's and najeh my brother and edge gonna walk back through um doors i don't see it.[/QUOTE]


Ridiculous, you act like he has to be able to put in on the spot at 50 yards without fail, big arms in college are overrated and game managers are underrated.
While I have no affection for him, Teddy Bridgewater was an excellent game manager, he arm was nothing special.
 
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blame the coaches for not finding a qb in year 4 smh... didnt even recruit treon harris until it was to late... bunch of dumb asses we have coaching this team..
 
This confirms what a lot of people were screaming at their TVs and posting on this board all along.

Nothing we didn't already know or see through our own eyes. This kid cost us dearly with his deficiencies, but I also blame the coaching staff.

Regardless of the lingering injury, he should've been pulled b/c he could execute the offense, and was a liability. Could we really have hared any worse with Ryan Williams? We'll never know.

Proof positive this coaching staff cannot develop players. And I really dont wanna hear the "he had 4 different coordinators in 4 years", or "he fell back after Fisch left" excuses. By your Senior year, you're supposed to have mastered certain basics like reading coverage, progressions, throwing with touch, and not throwing into double coverage. Which means he didn't progress as a QB-- he was as incompetent by his last game as he was in his first few starts.
 
I remember there being a thread titled "Does Morris have a Jacory problem?" and most everyone defended Morris. Truth be told I'd take Jacory > Morris.
 
I remember there being a thread titled "Does Morris have a Jacory problem?" and most everyone defended Morris. Truth be told I'd take Jacory > Morris.

Jacory without Fisch was far worse than Morris regardless of the OC. Do you remember JH Junior year? It was a joke. Him and Morris both ran into confidence issues is how it looked to me.
 
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