Rhett Lashlee named ACC coach of the Year

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This one stings, but out of the Top 7 teams in the ACC this season, here is how many games each played against teams that finished at least .500 in conference:

SMU: 3 (Won at Lville by 7, Won at Duke in OT on a failed 2PT try, beat BC at home by 10)
Clemson: 2 (curbstomped by Lville at home, won at VT (w/o Drones or Tuten)
Miami: 5 (I don't need to list them)
Syracuse: 3
Louisville: 5
GTech: 5
Duke: 4 (1-3 in these games, they beat VT by 3 at home)

I get it, whining over schedules is lame and give Lashlee and Diaz all the credit. But if we played the Duke or SMU or Clemson schedule, the vibes would be different around here.
I get it. But Miami shouldn’t need to play the easiest schedule in an easy conference to make the championship game.
 
I get it. But Miami shouldn’t need to play the easiest schedule in an easy conference to make the championship game.
Where have you been for 20
Years?

Miami is a mediocre ACC football program. Trying to get out of that, but we are in no way a place where we should have any kind of mindset like that.

If we had Clemsons track record for past decade, then absolutely.
 
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Coaching isn’t as easy as most people think. Acquiring talent helps coaches win, but what Rhett Lashlee has done is coach the players he has and find a way to win with less talent than the Canes have. Lashlee is why you pay coaches more money than players in college. If you have good coaches who are genuinely committed to developing players and scheming wins, everything else takes care of itself.
 
Must really suck to be a bunch of cancerous cast offs from the so-called "varsity" program.

Rhett and the "Baby Canes" are laughing their collective asses off at Mario, the Crib, and all of us fanatics that wrote them off.

Great point, PIB

I'll add that the Baby Canes' collective performance on SMU begs me to question Mario's evals of character - in addition to talent.

(Rhetorical question) How come the "JV" squad is balling out at SMU, but didn't accomplish much here?
 
I believe that we had to do the complete purge to give any hope for this program. Even if Rad had replaced James, would the dollars have flowed as heavily for Lashlee? Or would he have been seen as a relic of another failed coach?
 
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What's with the "JV Squad" tag?

Lashlee was asked about Brashard in one of his interviews. He basically said Brashard reached out to him about transferring to SMU. Rhett said he told him he didn't know if they had a spot for him but if he wanted to take his chances and come down, they would see what they could do. Rhett said he knew Brashard was an athlete so he figured they'd find a spot.
When Smith got to campus, they knew they didn't have a WR spot so they tried him out at RB. It seemed to be a good fit and as the season went on, Brashard really grew into a great player for them.

Rumors are Brashard was not open to anything other than WR at Miami. I have no idea if that was true. But sometimes when your options get more limited, you have to be more flexible. And sometimes coaches have to be more open minded and flexible too...

I don't think Smith would have been as successful had he stayed at Miami for alot of reasons.



and yes, I know he acted like an immature brat when he left.....
 
I get it. But Miami shouldn’t need to play the easiest schedule in an easy conference to make the championship game.
I don't disagree. But Clemson needed to play the easiest scheduled AND they needed us to lose in order to make it.

Still disappointing though.
 
Lashlee is an X and O guy. Though now that he’s gone we forget his running game was atrocious. He also never wow’d anyone with his recruiting. When he left he took a bunch of talent from Miami and all those guys are upperclassmen now. He’s done well this year but let’s see how he does when he loses all his Miami transfers. And frankly, Miami had a better offense than Lashlee this year (defense is a different story, but the point still stands). Manny can just GTFOH. The guy sucked. He took over a team that went 8-3 last year. He is what he is—a boom or bust D coordinator who can’t recruit DL or LB to save his life. But that’s all Duke will ever ask of him to be. So it’s a great fit for him.
Duke actually went 7-5 last year in the regular season and won their bowl game after elko left to finish 8-5. And they lost a ton from last year. So actually Manny improved their record.
 
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Duke actually went 7-5 last year in the regular season and won their bowl game after elko left to finish 8-5. And they lost a ton from last year. So actually Manny improved their record.


How many former Miami coaches are going wonders at other programs?

Oregon has never been better since Mario left.

There’s a pattern here…
 
TX is what build champions not grab **** 7 v 7
That’s why no team in Texas has won a title in 20 years.

**** UT has only played one ranked team this year and got blown out.
 
Where have you been for 20
Years?

Miami is a mediocre ACC football program. Trying to get out of that, but we are in no way a place where we should have any kind of mindset like that.

If we had Clemsons track record for past decade, then absolutely.
If you need the absolute easiest possible schedule to get to the conference title game, your not a good team and don’t deserve to be there anyway.
 
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I'm no oncologist, but that cancer was benign.

Hunte and Harvey weren't the issue; our defensive coordinator, and coaches were.

How many players from Miami are eating on SMU right now?

Smith
Hunte
Harvey

Anyone else?
smith and Elijah Roberts are the only ones eating.

If you watch smu games the others are the same players as they were in Miami. Harvey, hunte, Brinson, Clark, smith and rooster (injured).

People are going to look at the graphic and run with it.

Lashlee is a great coach but it goes to show you what a great cfb qb can do. What was their season outlook with Preston stone at the helm? Or even us prior to ward?
 
one thing that still makes me shake my head is that back in 2022 I said Lashlee should have gotten a look at HC, and people then (and still say) to defend the Cristobal hire is "Oh, so then we should have hired a coach from a failed regime?"

No, if you have a brain then you evaluate who was responsible for failure and what wasnt. No different than a new HC looking at a previous regime's staff and keeping 1-2 coaches that he thought pulled their weight. You don't automatically say everything within the program was tainted goods.

Lashlee took an offense that was ranked in the 80s-90s and turned them into a top 26 offense in consecutive years with two different QBs. He was not the reason that regime failed. If I'm looking part of the UM hiring committee and looking for a new HC, I'd say, "Hey, this guy was pretty good. Of course, we'll get criticized for not going out and paying 9 million for a "Miami guy", but are we trying to please the fans or make a smart hire?" I thought all along we needed an xs and o's HC.

Let's look at what both UGA and Oregon did when hiring a new HC. We are talking two of the richest programs in cfb. Oregon hired an untested coordinator, Lanning, on a 6 yr deal worth 27 million (mid 4's per year). Had a 14 mil buyout that dropped each season he was at Oregon. That's roughly what Diaz was making. If Lanning flopped, he'd be cheap to replace around year 3. Back in 2015, UGA replaced Richt with another untested coordinator, Smart on a 6 yr deal at 3.7 million per year, around 500k less than what Richt was making. If he flopped, he'd be cheap to replace.

Why wouldn't these schools go out and try to hire away Dabo or some other big name coach? Because they decided to bet on scheme guys, give them resources, and if it didn't pan out, they could get bought out for a minimal amount. I felt Lashlee should have been given a similar deal 6 yrs, 4-4.5 mil per year, low buyout. Give him a chance. And if it didnt' pan out- I guarantee you that Cristobal was still going to be available 3 years later. I've always hated the idea of a "program builder", you don't have time in CFB anymore to build a program from the ground up. A coach gets a roster, he needs to figure out a way to get the most out of it immediately while he starts bringing in his own preferred players. This idea that you suffer through a handful of 5 and 6 win seasons because a HC is building a sustainable program after years 4 and 5 is ridiculous. Fan bases are not going to have the patience to wait that long.
Miami hired a first time head coach, internally three times in a 21 year period, and three times it did not work out. I can see why people would be leery of Rhett replacing Manny.
 
smith and Elijah Roberts are the only ones eating.

If you watch smu games the others are the same players as they were in Miami. Harvey, hunte, Brinson, Clark, smith and rooster (injured).

People are going to look at the graphic and run with it.

Lashlee is a great coach but it goes to show you what a great cfb qb can do. What was their season outlook with Preston stone at the helm? Or even us prior to ward?

We'd for sure lose more games, no doubting that.

Production withstanding, how cancerous can they collectively be if the team is winning?
 
one thing that still makes me shake my head is that back in 2022 I said Lashlee should have gotten a look at HC, and people then (and still say) to defend the Cristobal hire is "Oh, so then we should have hired a coach from a failed regime?"

No, if you have a brain then you evaluate who was responsible for failure and what wasnt. No different than a new HC looking at a previous regime's staff and keeping 1-2 coaches that he thought pulled their weight. You don't automatically say everything within the program was tainted goods.

Lashlee took an offense that was ranked in the 80s-90s and turned them into a top 26 offense in consecutive years with two different QBs. He was not the reason that regime failed. If I'm looking part of the UM hiring committee and looking for a new HC, I'd say, "Hey, this guy was pretty good. Of course, we'll get criticized for not going out and paying 9 million for a "Miami guy", but are we trying to please the fans or make a smart hire?" I thought all along we needed an xs and o's HC.

Let's look at what both UGA and Oregon did when hiring a new HC. We are talking two of the richest programs in cfb. Oregon hired an untested coordinator, Lanning, on a 6 yr deal worth 27 million (mid 4's per year). Had a 14 mil buyout that dropped each season he was at Oregon. That's roughly what Diaz was making. If Lanning flopped, he'd be cheap to replace around year 3. Back in 2015, UGA replaced Richt with another untested coordinator, Smart on a 6 yr deal at 3.7 million per year, around 500k less than what Richt was making. If he flopped, he'd be cheap to replace.

Why wouldn't these schools go out and try to hire away Dabo or some other big name coach? Because they decided to bet on scheme guys, give them resources, and if it didn't pan out, they could get bought out for a minimal amount. I felt Lashlee should have been given a similar deal 6 yrs, 4-4.5 mil per year, low buyout. Give him a chance. And if it didnt' pan out- I guarantee you that Cristobal was still going to be available 3 years later. I've always hated the idea of a "program builder", you don't have time in CFB anymore to build a program from the ground up. A coach gets a roster, he needs to figure out a way to get the most out of it immediately while he starts bringing in his own preferred players. This idea that you suffer through a handful of 5 and 6 win seasons because a HC is building a sustainable program after years 4 and 5 is ridiculous. Fan bases are not going to have the patience to wait that long.
No matter how you accomplish it, finding the right guy is a skill. Whether that's elsewhere or already on your staff. Miami does not have that skill.
 
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