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Rhett Lashlee calls out national perception of the ACC - re: Playoff Bids

UGA and Bama QBs are JAGs. Those teams don’t deserve special treatment this year just because they were good last year. And they still lost to Michigan and Washington last year.
 
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S.CarolinaCane said:
**** all of that. There has been so much realignment that wins and losses need to metter regardless of what conference you are in.

I am sick of hearing about SEC teams that have one or more losses than a team positioned in what is considered to be a 'weaker' conference, and said team is punished for it.

I am not advocating for the UCFs of the world, because that self-claimed natty is straight dumb as ****, but in a way I am. That team definitely deserved a chance, and over the years they have not been the only one.
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You missed the part where I said “the rating includes wins and losses” lol

I think that should be a heavily weighted item. Not the end all for sure. But I’d want the formula to give zero chance of a 9-3 Georgia being higher than (for example) 11-1 Miami, Indiana, SMU, etc.

The SEC gets too much credit for “beating up on each other” but a loss to Kentucky, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Auburn, Vandy, etc is no better than a loss to GT and we need to stop pretending it is a better loss because of a patch on the jersey. They’re all in the same ballpark and would go 50/50 playing each other 100 times.
 
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It's been posted a number of times but strength of record favors us a ton, there's no reason a Penn st for instance is 4th other than conference perception, and don't get me started on the bamas of the world. Lashlee is absolutely right.

It's really going to be clear at the end of the year with conference title games, would not be surprising at all to have a scenario like the ACC or big 12 two teams ranked around 9-12 before the title game, which SHOULD mean they get in regardless of the result. But if you have a Bama or uga at 13 and us or smu lose you know they'll drop us below them even if they don't have to play another game... it's bs but I'm expecting it to happen.
 
CBurrr93 said:
I hate the SEC as much as anyone. But they’ve probably earned it at this point. I wouldn’t want to know our record year after year if we player an SEC schedule. And that’s our own fault. Struggling with the Georgia tech’s and UNC of the world
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While the SEC has been elite, a large portion of their legacy is built upon insulating their top tier teams by ranking conference teams high in the preseason and not playing good OOC opponents. Then when the big teams lose, it's a "good loss" to a high ranked team when in reality that team probably shouldn't have been ranked.
 
JayCane20 said:
Need to scrap the human factor and human bias in the playoff selection and generate a BCS type model that power ranks teams and calculates a rating. The rating includes wins and losses but doesn’t have any measure on prior year, recruiting, pre-season, etc. It shouldn’t even be able to formulate data until week 3 or 4.

To perfect that model, you will need buy in from all conferences to agree to some sort of overlap scheduling like an ACC/SEC challenge in basketball type model. Cross over a couple games a year and we can really apply a solid formula to this and accurately rank teams and weigh results without bias.

The way it is now and getting worse in the future with the SEC/B1G threatening to do their own thing without 8-9 guaranteed slots is going to ruin a good product.

1-4 can be the conference champs and then 5-12 should be the next 8 highest rated teams at-large.
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The committee was solely created for the intent of manipulating the matchups for TV ratings.
 
Lots of season left.

Personally- the big leagues should host 4 team league championships. What could anyone say if Clemson, Miami, SMU, UL/Pitt/duke played each other?

Same should be true for B1G,sec,b12.

Indiana, PSU, OSU, Oregon
Tenn, Texas, Bama, ole Miss/uga/atm
BYU,Colorado,karate, ???
 
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If we want to stop getting treated like a second tier conference we will have to earn it. We as a conference (and as a team) have not done it regularly in a long time.
 
I'd be interested too see the conference vs conference data...

Would be pretty telling come final rankings time.

Side note - isn't mighty Texas of the SEC best win beating Vandy by 3.
 
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Here are some convincing SEC wins that are hard to argue against vs non conf opponents

They are the strongest conf and it really isn't even close right now.

Bama beat South FL 41-16
Bama beat Wisky 42-10

Georgia beat Clemson 34-3

Ole Miss beat Wake 40-6

Tenn beat NC State 51-10

Texas beat Mich 31-12
 
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Novacane32000 said:
Here are some convincing SEC wins that are hard to argue against vs non conf opponents

They are the strongest conf and it really isn't even close right now.

Bama beat South FL 41-16
Bama beat Wisky 42-10

Georgia beat Clemson 34-3

Ole Miss beat Wake 40-6

Tenn beat NC State 51-10

Texas beat Mich 31-12
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Outside of Clemson, you are showing the SEC's top teams against other conferences middle of the road and lower tier teams. This shows/proves little to nothing.
 
JayCane20 said:
You missed the part where I said “the rating includes wins and losses” lol

I think that should be a heavily weighted item. Not the end all for sure. But I’d want the formula to give zero chance of a 9-3 Georgia being higher than (for example) 11-1 Miami, Indiana, SMU, etc.

The SEC gets too much credit for “beating up on each other” but a loss to Kentucky, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Auburn, Vandy, etc is no better than a loss to GT and we need to stop pretending it is a better loss because of a patch on the jersey. They’re all in the same ballpark and would go 50/50 playing each other 100 times.
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This is the frustrating part. Why is GT a big deal and Vandy not? Those teams are pretty equal. The pass Bama has gotten is wild.
 
Novacane32000 said:
Here are some convincing SEC wins that are hard to argue against vs non conf opponents

They are the strongest conf and it really isn't even close right now.

Bama beat South FL 41-16
Bama beat Wisky 42-10

Georgia beat Clemson 34-3

Ole Miss beat Wake 40-6

Tenn beat NC State 51-10

Texas beat Mich 31-12
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I honestly thought this was an onion post.

How about Miami 41- UF 17? Nd 23- A&M 13, USC 27- LSU 20, Cal 21- Auburn 14... when the teams are evenly matched the SEC is not as dominant... they just get more chances than every other conference because of bias
 
Texas is very talented...but they have legit played 1 good team and lost...fairly convincingly. They also survived Vandy. They have Arkansas and Kentucky who are bottom tier of SEC and then A&M who has 1 good win and I'm being generous with LSU

Penn State like others have said...look at there schedule. Look at Indiana's as well.

Alabama finishes with Mercer, Oklahoma and Auburn...they will likely win all 3 fairly convincingly and ESPN will be gobbling their **** going into the post season. But they are as up and down as anyone surviving multiple games...heck USF had them on the ropes for about 55 minutes and then just ran out of steam

I hope they shock us and dont just let conference affiliation control the whole playoff....and then I hope for the wildest first year of playoffs possible. If its not Miami I want to see like Boise vs BYU for it all.
 
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