Quincy Wilson

[User-4525]

Well, I think this is a situation where we need to step back and let it play out. At this point you guys are just trying to force you opinion on each other and its not going to work. For whatever reason the kid is just not wanted by the staff. Not sure why but, if they wanted him they would have offered. My question to you guys would be why do you care so much? Is it because he is whining on twitter about not having an offer?

Personally, I dont think we need more than two in this class, we still have Dortch, Crawford, Howard, Bush, Carter, Burns, Hope, and Rayshawn Jenkins that are all freshman and sophomores. Plus we get Gunter back for one more yr after this season, so losing Rodgers and Highsmith does not kill us and I think adding even two to replace those two would be enough.

i dont think the kid is the savior and we obviously have good dbs all im doing is discussing with consigliere how a player should view themself. Just a friendly argument

 

[Consigliere]

I don't even understand what the argument is about. Let me put it this way...

My dream is go to the University of Miami and major in Finance. The school will not accept me if I apply directly to the school of business but they may consider me if I am will to start in the liberal arts program. The business school's policy is to AUTOMATICALLY take kids after their freshman year if they have a 3.0 GPA.

Now even though I consider myself the next Bernie Madoff, do you think I should hold my ground and say I am only going to UM if they accept me straight to the business school. The school may never accept me but I rather improve my chances is all I am saying.

 

[YoungBallCoach]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

 

[User-4525]

I don't even understand what the argument is about. Let me put it this way...

My dream is go to the University of Miami and major in Finance. The school will not accept me if I apply directly to the school of business but they may consider me if I am will to start in the liberal arts program. The business school's policy is to AUTOMATICALLY take kids after their freshman year if they have a 3.0 GPA.

Now even though I consider myself the next Bernie Madoff, do you think I should hold my ground and say I am only going to UM if they accept me straight to the business school. The school may never accept me but I rather improve my chances is all I am saying.

im just trying to say people are knocking quincy for the same thing other prospects do, but then the dicussion expanded. We will see how it plays out with Quincy,

 

[bigsonnyu]

My assement of Quincy Wilson is that he's very physical, and initiates alot of contact down field past 5 yards. He does have long arms, and he's strong, which makes his jam effective in knocking guys off their initial move, but then he turns and runs... Note: Rather than jamming with lateral movement then transitioning into a backpedal.

On his highlight tape, his HS defense calls for a majority of off-man coverage, where he's taught to squat on alot of routes.... By him already playing 10 yards off, everything is happening in front of him, he just has to close for the tackle. He is a good tackler.

His HS defense is very friendly for a bigger CB ; problem is, IMO...

As far as one evaluating him as a true Cornerback, there are certain things a coach wants to see:

One wants to see a guys backpedal; does he protect his cushion in his backpedal; how's his balance in his backpedal, one wants to see him break on the ball, one wants to see how he shadow stalks a good route runner in a hip to hip action, how does he recover, etc...

These are the questions that don't get answered. I personally think he'll make a good safety, and if he's smart he'll transition into that position this season. Maybe that's what Da U is wanting to see more of this year out of him.

 

[2Focusd804]

Quincy Twitter:

"@D1andOnly_Q: Lol I'm a big cornerback, I play cornerback, i will be playing cornerback in college smh"

That was in response to SB Nation article on whether or not he will be a corner or safety in college.

and thats why he doesnt have an offer

Um Treon Harris has an offer as an athlete even though he says he is going to be a QB in college.

i cant find anywhere that list treon as having an offe and i fail to see how it compares to Quincy. Quincy lacks athleticism, thats the problem with his film

 

[Plzwork4]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

You don't have to be Terry Porter to see that 2 of his 3 plays were PI's or holding...just sayin.

 

[jerzeycane]

My assement of Quincy Wilson is that he's very physical, and initiates alot of contact down field past 5 yards. He does have long arms, and he's strong, which makes his jam effective in knocking guys off their initial move, but then he turns and runs... Note: Rather than jamming with lateral movement then transitioning into a backpedal.

On his highlight tape, his HS defense calls for a majority of off-man coverage, where he's taught to squat on alot of routes.... By him already playing 10 yards off, everything is happening in front of him, he just has to close for the tackle. He is a good tackler.

His HS defense is very friendly for a bigger CB ; problem is, IMO...

As far as one evaluating him as a true Cornerback, there are certain things a coach wants to see:

One wants to see a guys backpedal; does he protect his cushion in his backpedal; how's his balance in his backpedal, one wants to see him break on the ball, one wants to see how he shadow stalks a good route runner in a hip to hip action, how does he recover, etc...

These are the questions that don't get answered. I personally think he'll make a good safety, and if he's smart he'll transition into that position this season. Maybe that's what Da U is wanting to see more of this year out of him.

The 5 yard rule does not exist in college football

 

[2Focusd804]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

You don't have to be Terry Porter to see that 2 of his 3 plays were PI's or holding...just sayin.

exactly, people put way too much stock in flag 1 on 1's. there aren't any refs out there. people can hold, push off, interfere all of that. keep that in mind when watching the combine 1 on 1's. is he grabbing/holding? same with WR's and pushing off (although they usually get away with that with refs present as well)

 

[jerzeycane]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

You don't have to be Terry Porter to see that 2 of his 3 plays were PI's or holding...just sayin.

exactly, people put way too much stock in flag 1 on 1's. there aren't any refs out there. people can hold, push off, interfere all of that. keep that in mind when watching the combine 1 on 1's. is he grabbing/holding? same with WR's and pushing off (although they usually get away with that with refs present as well)

And people also put way too much stock in the physicality being a detriment, when the college game is way more tolerant when it comes to contact in the secondary.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

How many guys that run a 4.8 have started at corner at Miami?

 

[2Focusd804]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

You don't have to be Terry Porter to see that 2 of his 3 plays were PI's or holding...just sayin.

exactly, people put way too much stock in flag 1 on 1's. there aren't any refs out there. people can hold, push off, interfere all of that. keep that in mind when watching the combine 1 on 1's. is he grabbing/holding? same with WR's and pushing off (although they usually get away with that with refs present as well)

And people also put way too much stock in the physicality being a detriment, when the college game is way more tolerant when it comes to contact in the secondary.

mayb, but if i remember correctly Tracy had a tough adjustment with using his hands to much and being to physical with WR down the field. i have no problem with a CB being physical BUT if you're only elite CB trait is being physical, i dont think that projects well to the next level. I mean there are some people wondering if he grows into an OLB...i wouldn't offer him as a CB, a safety mayb, but not a

 

[Plzwork4]

Quincy can play DB. I say sell him on giving him a shot. Give him a chance to play CB and if he can't cut it move him to Safety. If he really wants to play here he shouldn't mind that type of agreement.

And at the same Under Armor Combine that he ran a "slow" 40 time you should watch the 1 on 1's of that day as well. The kid dominated.

You don't have to be Terry Porter to see that 2 of his 3 plays were PI's or holding...just sayin.

exactly, people put way too much stock in flag 1 on 1's. there aren't any refs out there. people can hold, push off, interfere all of that. keep that in mind when watching the combine 1 on 1's. is he grabbing/holding? same with WR's and pushing off (although they usually get away with that with refs present as well)

And people also put way too much stock in the physicality being a detriment, when the college game is way more tolerant when it comes to contact in the secondary.

I agree with that Jerzey, but if people are going to point to the UA 1 v 1's then those would be penalties.

To me he definitely looks too stiff to be a corner on his film. He really looks like a small LB out there covering these kids. If he is deadset on being a corner in college I 100% understand why the staff hasn't offered him. I believe they don't want to **** around with a legacy, and they're being straightforward with him and his pops about "no offer as a corner, but if you're open to play elsewhere we can talk" type of stuff.

 

[Evenkeel24]

He sure is physical, but he looked kinda slow for a high level D1 corner

 

[DCH]

My assement of Quincy Wilson is that he's very physical, and initiates alot of contact down field past 5 yards. He does have long arms, and he's strong, which makes his jam effective in knocking guys off their initial move, but then he turns and runs... Note: Rather than jamming with lateral movement then transitioning into a backpedal.

On his highlight tape, his HS defense calls for a majority of off-man coverage, where he's taught to squat on alot of routes.... By him already playing 10 yards off, everything is happening in front of him, he just has to close for the tackle. He is a good tackler.

His HS defense is very friendly for a bigger CB ; problem is, IMO...

As far as one evaluating him as a true Cornerback, there are certain things a coach wants to see:

One wants to see a guys backpedal; does he protect his cushion in his backpedal; how's his balance in his backpedal, one wants to see him break on the ball, one wants to see how he shadow stalks a good route runner in a hip to hip action, how does he recover, etc...

These are the questions that don't get answered. I personally think he'll make a good safety, and if he's smart he'll transition into that position this season. Maybe that's what Da U is wanting to see more of this year out of him.

Well said. He doesnt demonstrate the things you want out of a corner at the next level on film because in high school they let him play off man and freelance. Then in these 7 on 7s he just jams and throws guys around. He can be a safety here, but hes just not a corner at the next level.

 

[mirvin88]

Riveting thread

 

[deleted3746]

Quincy runs a 4.45

According to ESPN he runs a 4.77.


http://espn.go.com/colleges/lsu/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/150250/quincy-wilson

If you watch his film, he has 4.4 speed, no where near a 4.7

I trust Under Armor combine over your eyes. UA combine says he ran a 4.77 2 months ago
http://combines.underarmour.com/news/article/67

I do as well. Not sure how someone can look at film and time kids with their eyes.

How many guys that run a 4.8 have started at corner at Miami?

Dont think there have been 4.8 corners but there have been 4.8 safeties.

 

[deleted3746]

Riveting thread

Yawn.

 

[WhatTheHell]

My assement of Quincy Wilson is that he's very physical, and initiates alot of contact down field past 5 yards. He does have long arms, and he's strong, which makes his jam effective in knocking guys off their initial move, but then he turns and runs... Note: Rather than jamming with lateral movement then transitioning into a backpedal.

On his highlight tape, his HS defense calls for a majority of off-man coverage, where he's taught to squat on alot of routes.... By him already playing 10 yards off, everything is happening in front of him, he just has to close for the tackle. He is a good tackler.

His HS defense is very friendly for a bigger CB ; problem is, IMO...

As far as one evaluating him as a true Cornerback, there are certain things a coach wants to see:

One wants to see a guys backpedal; does he protect his cushion in his backpedal; how's his balance in his backpedal, one wants to see him break on the ball, one wants to see how he shadow stalks a good route runner in a hip to hip action, how does he recover, etc...

These are the questions that don't get answered. I personally think he'll make a good safety, and if he's smart he'll transition into that position this season. Maybe that's what Da U is wanting to see more of this year out of him.

I've avoided watching his film for some reason, but seeing as Quincy Wilson has become the number one topic on this board, I decided to take a look.

This guy's post nails it.

 

[IHATETHISPLACE]

Quincy runs a 4.45

According to ESPN he runs a 4.77.


http://espn.go.com/colleges/lsu/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/150250/quincy-wilson

If you watch his film, he has 4.4 speed, no where near a 4.7

I trust Under Armor combine over your eyes. UA combine says he ran a 4.77 2 months ago
http://combines.underarmour.com/news/article/67

I do as well. Not sure how someone can look at film and time kids with their eyes.

How many guys that run a 4.8 have started at corner at Miami?

Dont think there have been 4.8 corners but there have been 4.8 safeties.

right but Quincy seems to have convinced himself he is a "big corner"