Punt returners

[plantcity3]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Lol I'm reading some of these post and thinking, how tf do they know how well others besides Berries can field punts...

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[HitStick2620]

If we have a super explosive offense then maybe a safe option who's guaranteed to get us the ball is a good choice. But we're breaking in a new QB and don't know how the O-line will hold up. We need someone more explosive back there who is a threat to score points/set up the offense with a short field.

 

[dukebeeasy305]

Richt's red flags:

-Berrios and Lewis returning kicks

-sticking with Linder at center until his body broke

-offensive gameplans in the month of October

-using a fullback

You're being kind w/r/t richt' offense.

It stunk for most of the year. ****, even the early part of the bowl game was really bad.

I'm willing to chalk this up to a lack of speed/talent, even though we had Njoku and Coley.

Let's see what he does with a QB who can move around, guys like Homer, Thomas, Harley, Mullins in the mix.

Obviously, what we saw for most of last season from CMR the playcaller wasn't good enough, but there was a clear lack of speed to work with imo.

What does lack of speed have to do with a hb dive on almost every 2nd and long?

Richt the head coach has done a lot of good things. Richt the OC was pretty bad.

Richt is a conservative play caller already and even-more so if he does not have the required talent

 

[Combo]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Exactly. Obviously it should be a priority to have a guy that won't fumble the ball away. However, at Miami, you should be able to find a guy who can BOTH safely field a punt AND also be a threat to house it.

 

[kryptonite]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Lol I'm reading some of these post and thinking, how tf do they know how well others besides Berries can field punts...

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If only there were some type of coach that we could trust to make that determination...

 

[dukebeeasy305]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Lol I'm reading some of these post and thinking, how tf do they know how well others besides Berries can field punts...

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we don't know and that's the issue but we do know berrios is consistent and when he does field a punt he does not lack flip the field ability. let the players prove themselves before we just hand them all of these titles weren't we clamoring over berrios as a fresman and now people are all over him

 

[The Franchise]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Everybody gets that if can be done, we're just giving Richt a little credit. If nobody else was doing it, maybe nobody else on that team could do it and be spared.

I'm talking now. I don't care about last year anymore. If he felt Berrios was his only option last year, then I'm ok with it even if I don't agree. No one can make that argument this year.

Points. Use every chance you have to score them. You're not doing that if you put Berrios back there this year. I know you're all about deference to the coach. But they're not infallible.

 

[tampatony21]

If one of these guys can prove themselves reliable enough for Richts liking, & are better at returning punts then they will get the job. Part 1 of returning punts is to catch the ball, so if the prove they can do that consistently without costing us Richtt would make the change.

 

[The Franchise]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Lol I'm reading some of these post and thinking, how tf do they know how well others besides Berries can field punts...

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They don't. Sometimes guys get so caught up in deferring to coaches that they lose track of everything else. There will be at least 15 guys on this year's roster who will be better options to return kicked footballs.

 

[The Franchise]

I can see it now: someone fumbles a punt and possibly cost a game and in comes " Man I knew we should kept Berrios back there" I agree we def need a game changer back there, but Richt wants someone reliable. I highly doubt Thomas takes the job in the beginning. I can see multiple guys being used to see who emerges as best option.

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Exactly. Obviously it should be a priority to have a guy that won't fumble the ball away. However, at Miami, you should be able to find a guy who can BOTH safely field a punt AND also be a threat to house it.

These dudes act like Berrios is the only guy we've ever had who can field punts. Over the last 20 years who are all these return men we've had who have killed us with fumbles?

 

[kryptonite]

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Everybody gets that if can be done, we're just giving Richt a little credit. If nobody else was doing it, maybe nobody else on that team could do it and be spared.

I'm talking now. I don't care about last year anymore. If he felt Berrios was his only option last year, then I'm ok with it even if I don't agree. No one can make that argument this year.

Points. Use every chance you have to score them. You're not doing that if you put Berrios back there this year. I know you're all about deference to the coach. But they're not infallible.

Talking right now? Completely agree. We've got enough speed and talent coming in who aren't yet essential on O or D that Richt shouldn't have a problem finding a guy who can catch and run.

 

[Calinative]

Who are we working in at KR? that more important imo.

There is only one opportunity per game where you can receive a kickoff not following your opponent scoring. If the defense is at the level most expect it to be at in '17, there will be far more punts to be fielded and hopefully converted into points or good starting field position than KO's.

I didn't mean KR is more important than PR.
I think that we have like 5 guys that can be a good PR. But who do we have that can be a good KR? Thats more of what I meant.Plus last year the KR was trash while the PR was good...so Im not worried about that at all.

 

[jkh305]

Yo why does Pete get a fire emoji on his posts? Columbus bias.

 

[JHallCanes]

This whole debate is pretty invalid.

If a freshman steps up, he will play over Berrios. Richt has proven that's he's willing to go with talent over experience when the situation calls for it.

I think we will see a few guys get shots at it. We have actually brought in quite a few candidates for the first time in a while.

 

[Miami Nights]

I think over the next couple years Miami's return game will undergo a major over haul. It won't be the tidley winks you say with Golden. Reminded me of those fire s you light, they explode and that's it.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I definitely think the porsters here should determine all personnel usage this year coming up.

They nailed it last year basically firing Diaz on this board before he had coached his first game for us.

It's that kind of judgement that will turn this program around.

 

[Miami Nights]

Anyways with the skill position guys Miami is bringing is (DB's, wr's etc.). Miami will see a significant upgrade in special teams personnel and returnmen.

 

[Gatorhater]

He housed 2 of them with one being called back on a BS penalty

Even more reason I dont mind him being back there..he left some yards on the field but he made some decent plays also. at least keep Braxton back there when he's fair catching inside the 20

I like to have speed back there, but "catch the punt" is the first rule, so in any game we in control or ahead, it might not be a bad idea to avoid giving up big play on a change of possession --- kills defense to have to go back out there. I'd rather take my risk on the D on the first 3 downs.

It's time to play to win now

Too true. Winners have no time for fair catching and "field position".

Back in the day, we have speed,speed,speed everywhere. Those great returners we had were still the guys with great hands but they also had great hands and did not make many mistakes. Plus the team was such that an occasional mistake could be overcome by any one of 15 other great players. I have no problem with risk takers. Reed was huge on taking risk, but he seemed to ALWAYS make the play. If we have guys that make the play then ***** the fair catch and throw the ivory.

Just remember that that we do not have 4 first round picks in the secondary. It has been 16 years since we recruited THAT good. With the return of our old style defense, maybe we will again, with 1st round DL and LBs picks too. A fumbled punt is less dangerous with players like that coming back on the field because they are a threat to take it the other way for six every play. Once the other team is afraid of our D coming back out, then let it ride. Until then, I prefer to load my risk money on attacking the other QB in search for blood and maybe giving up a big play. All that said, I sure miss Hester.

 

[Gatorhater]

Im actually one Of the few who liked Braxton berrios back there...he never took it to the house but he also never fumbled that i can remember... but I would love to see something new back there

He housed 2 of them with one being called back on a BS penalty

Even more reason I dont mind him being back there..he left some yards on the field but he made some decent plays also. at least keep Braxton back there when he's fair catching inside the 20

I like to have speed back there, but "catch the punt" is the first rule, so in any game we in control or ahead, it might not be a bad idea to avoid giving up big play on a change of possession --- kills defense to have to go back out there. I'd rather take my risk on the D on the first 3 downs.

It's time to play to win now

I agree completely.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Thank God Coker wasn't this scared when Hester arrived on campus. Or else we would have been stuck with a reliable soap horse like Kevin Beard as our return man. He had such reliable hands and was so heady.

Sorry, I don't get it. I don't recall Hester ever fumbling a kick or punt, college or pro.

When you have a defense like we do, don't put them on a short field. If you have a defense like DoNo's, it doesn't matter, they'll score from anywhere on the field. Over the course of a season it's the smart play.

Did you see Hester never fumble BEFORE he actually got the chance to field kicks?

You fraidy cats think that Berrios is the only guy who can catch kicks. Catching kicks and being a threat to score aren't mutually exclusive. You can do both.

Everybody gets that if can be done, we're just giving Richt a little credit. If nobody else was doing it, maybe nobody else on that team could do it and be spared.

I'm talking now. I don't care about last year anymore. If he felt Berrios was his only option last year, then I'm ok with it even if I don't agree. No one can make that argument this year.

Points. Use every chance you have to score them. You're not doing that if you put Berrios back there this year. I know you're all about deference to the coach. But they're not infallible.

**** franchise etherin foos in this thread

Yo put the shifty speedy TD makin ni99as on KR and PR period fuq fair catches this is miami