PODCAST: We're on to UNC ft. D$ and Lance Roffers

[Cribby]

Other than Thomas nobody in the wr room has a gripe about ****. In the words of the great philosopher William Taggert “ Do something”.

Pope and Wiggins especially.

 

[Cribby]

I am firmly in the camp that the coaches play who they feel gives them the best chance to win. Their paychecks and therefore their lives depend on it.

That being said, how awful and/or clueless do Pope, Hightower, and Wiggins need to be to be beaten out by a 5'10 kid who has been a WR for 45 minutes? That's pretty alarming if the coaches think Tate as the Z receiver gives us a better chance to win than those 3 kids.

Wiggins would play more if he actually caught the **** ball. I mean he was playing a lot while dropping everything thrown his , until the coaches finally said “ f this ****”.

 

[brock]

It's not just about experience. Habits matter. Notice that Tate didn't take any snaps away from Harley. There is a reason for that.

For me it’s even beyond that position. What about playing rousseau(by far our most impactful guy in the front 7 vs uf) or hill less than 15 snaps? Maybe the rotation was just short at most positions because they went with who they knew would know their system in and out and I’m hoping that’s the case. They had mentioned prior to the game that the starters at receiver would play most of the snaps that game and yeah tate played more than pope or Hightower but he knew the plays in and out due to him being a qb. I’m fine with him playing, just get the rotation fixed and get the whole position group going. That should be a focus in the coming weeks and hopefully it expands a bit.

 

[DMoney]

For me it’s even beyond that position. What about playing rousseau(by far our most impactful guy in the front 7 vs uf) or hill less than 15 snaps?

We talked about it on the podcast. When you rewatch the game, Patchan actually played very well. His ability to keep contain was critical against Franks.

 

[Hoyacane1620]

Looks like our staff is putting an absolute premium on practice habits and knowing exactly what to do on the field. That’s what I’m getting from Tate’s quick rise up the depth chart. Maybe they don’t trust the other guys to not bust assignments.

This is what I think too. Stubblefield's reputation is that of a stickler for the process and detail oriented. We know how Enos is - he expects perfection.

Tate has already shown both in the weight room and in the QB battle that he's willing to put in the time and work. The staff respects that.

 

[Mr. Dynasty1]

Other than Thomas nobody in the wr room has a gripe about ****. In the words of the great philosopher William Taggert “ Do something”.

Pope and Wiggins especially.

What has Hightower done to not warrant play time

 

[Memnon]

This super complex extremely difficult offense that literally only 3 players have the "intelligence" to understand produced an astounding 214yds in the air...

Don't play any of the WR's, keep'em on the bench & don't act shocked when they hit the portal & kill our depth.

Every other major winning program found a way to get their TF WR's on the field & get them integrated in the offense & played, but we somehow can't even get a group of 2nd year players on the field while simultaneously NOT BEING ABLE TO THE THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD LOL.

Hey the coaches know better than I do so if they don't think they need to play those guys then by all means don't, but if our passing offense remains amongst the worst in college football & we continue to lose games it'll speaks volumes about their lack of ability to develop.

I have no problem with them playing any player they feel gives us the best chance to win, but here's the caveat... YOU HAVE TO WIN.

The offense has cost us multiple games over these last 3 years simply because they were incapable of doing the most basic fundamental sh*t, even garbage P5 teams can figure out a way to pass for 250-260yds a game, in today's era of college football you can literally manufacture yards off scheme & pace alone, but yet we can't do elementary level sh*t to move the ball down the field. We're the only **** team in D1 ball that has an offense chock full of 4-star players that still can't throw the ball lol.

It's real simple, if your offense is struggling you exhaust every option possible until you find what works, doing the same thing over & over again while expecting a different result is insanity.

 

[20EReedboii]

I am firmly in the camp that the coaches play who they feel gives them the best chance to win. Their paychecks and therefore their lives depend on it.

That being said, how awful and/or clueless do Pope, Hightower, and Wiggins need to be to be beaten out by a 5'10 kid who has been a WR for 45 minutes? That's pretty alarming if the coaches think Tate as the Z receiver gives us a better chance to win than those 3 kids.

Well Pope has admitted he couldn't learn the playbook last year, and all of us know that Richt's playbook was stolen directly from Madden 98 so that should tell you all you need to know. Wiggins had stone hands last year and was dropping passes left and right throughout the quick videos that were posted on twitter during camp. Then Hightower did pretty much nothing after the LSU game last year, although I heard he played through a pretty bad injury.

I like all those guys a ton, but we have to realize that Tate is a legitimate athlete who clearly has a better grasp of the offense. That said, I'd love to see the WRs develop and catch on in the next few games

 

[Cribby]

What has Hightower done to not warrant play time

They don’t play the same position. But he hasn’t exactly set the world on fire either , none of the guys have. That’s my point.

Hightower has more of a gripe than the two I named though , even though he plays another position.

 

[canesthing3]

****, fellas. All this after only 1 game and because Tate saw like 10 reps or so at WR? So if we had the same offensive output but Pope, Hightower, Wiggins etc got those few reps instead of Tate would you guys be happier then?

Y’all are gonna break your legs jumping off the Enos bandwagon. I’m gonna give him and the O a little more time.

 

[dk72]

For me it’s even beyond that position. What about playing rousseau(by far our most impactful guy in the front 7 vs uf) or hill less than 15 snaps? Maybe the rotation was just short at most positions because they went with who they knew would know their system in and out and I’m hoping that’s the case. They had mentioned prior to the game that the starters at receiver would play most of the snaps that game and yeah tate played more than pope or Hightower but he knew the plays in and out due to him being a qb. I’m fine with him playing, just get the rotation fixed and get the whole position group going. That should be a focus in the coming weeks and hopefully it expands a bit.

Playing Patchan and Garvin over Hill and Rousseau in the UF game seemed like a strategic decision, and frankly, a smart one at that given how UF's offense works. If we see Hill and Rousseau getting very little playing time throughout the season, then maybe there's a valid issue there, but at this point I don't see one.

 

[Cribby]

Well Pope has admitted he couldn't learn the playbook last year, and all of us know that Richt's playbook was stolen directly from Madden 98 so that should tell you all you need to know. Wiggins had stone hands last year and was dropping passes left and right throughout the quick videos that were posted on twitter during camp. Then Hightower did pretty much nothing after the LSU game last year, although I heard he played through a pretty bad injury.

I like all those guys a ton, but we have to realize that Tate is a legitimate athlete who clearly has a better grasp of the offense. That said, I'd love to see the WRs develop and catch on in the next few games

Exactly.

 

[dk72]

This super complex extremely difficult offense that literally only 3 players have the "intelligence" to understand produced an astounding 214yds in the air...

Don't play any of the WR's, keep'em on the bench & don't act shocked when they hit the portal & kill our depth.

Every other major winning program found a way to get their TF WR's on the field & get them integrated in the offense & played, but we somehow can't even get a group of 2nd year players on the field while simultaneously NOT BEING ABLE TO THE THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD LOL.

Hey the coaches know better than I do so if they don't think they need to play those guys then by all means don't, but if our passing offense remains amongst the worst in college football & we continue to lose games it'll speaks volumes about their lack of ability to develop.

I have no problem with them playing any player they feel gives us the best chance to win, but here's the caveat... YOU HAVE TO WIN.

The offense has cost us multiple games over these last 3 years simply because they were incapable of doing the most basic fundamental sh*t, even garbage P5 teams can figure out a way to pass for 250-260yds a game, in today's era of college football you can literally manufacture yards off scheme & pace alone, but yet we can't do elementary level sh*t to move the ball down the field. We're the only **** team in D1 ball that has an offense chock full of 4-star players that still can't throw the ball lol.

It's real simple, if your offense is struggling you exhaust every option possible until you find what works, doing the same thing over & over again while expecting a different result is insanity.

I agree for the most part, but it seems like people are seeing a problem before we know if there really is one. We've had one game. As the season progresses, if those other WRs don't see playing time, especially if our passing offense doesn't look great with the WRs we are using, then I agree it's an issue. But at this point some people are acting as if it's a long-standing issue when we've had a one-game sample size.

 

[Cribby]

****, fellas. All this after only 1 game and because Tate saw like 10 reps or so at WR? So if we had the same offensive output but Pope, Hightower, Wiggins etc got those few reps instead of Tate would you guys be happier then?

Y’all are gonna break your legs jumping off the Enos bandwagon. I’m gonna give him and the O a little more time.

We must cry because the guy we hate got 10-15 reps at wr. Even though we hit multiple big plays when he was the decoy.

Just like Patchan sucks or needs to be benched , yet he graded out as one of the best players on the d.

You got to love this place.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

This super complex extremely difficult offense that literally only 3 players have the "intelligence" to understand produced an astounding 214yds in the air...

Don't play any of the WR's, keep'em on the bench & don't act shocked when they hit the portal & kill our depth.

Every other major winning program found a way to get their TF WR's on the field & get them integrated in the offense & played, but we somehow can't even get a group of 2nd year players on the field while simultaneously NOT BEING ABLE TO THE THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD LOL.

Hey the coaches know better than I do so if they don't think they need to play those guys then by all means don't, but if our passing offense remains amongst the worst in college football & we continue to lose games it'll speaks volumes about their lack of ability to develop.

I have no problem with them playing any player they feel gives us the best chance to win, but here's the caveat... YOU HAVE TO WIN.

The offense has cost us multiple games over these last 3 years simply because they were incapable of doing the most basic fundamental sh*t, even garbage P5 teams can figure out a way to pass for 250-260yds a game, in today's era of college football you can literally manufacture yards off scheme & pace alone, but yet we can't do elementary level sh*t to move the ball down the field. We're the only **** team in D1 ball that has an offense chock full of 4-star players that still can't throw the ball lol.

It's real simple, if your offense is struggling you exhaust every option possible until you find what works, doing the same thing over & over again while expecting a different result is insanity.

We’re one game in.

Personally, I think there’s no telling what our go-to WR rotation will be until after 4 games or so.

I believe the coaches are figuring it out themselves. For the first couple of games, it’s obviously going to be more heavily influenced by practice/scrimmage performances.

As games progress, I would think that there will be additional evaluations and tinkering until they settle more or less on 4-5 guys that get the most snaps.

 

[88]

This super complex extremely difficult offense that literally only 3 players have the "intelligence" to understand produced an astounding 214yds in the air...

Don't play any of the WR's, keep'em on the bench & don't act shocked when they hit the portal & kill our depth.

Every other major winning program found a way to get their TF WR's on the field & get them integrated in the offense & played, but we somehow can't even get a group of 2nd year players on the field while simultaneously NOT BEING ABLE TO THE THROW THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD LOL.

Hey the coaches know better than I do so if they don't think they need to play those guys then by all means don't, but if our passing offense remains amongst the worst in college football & we continue to lose games it'll speaks volumes about their lack of ability to develop.

I have no problem with them playing any player they feel gives us the best chance to win, but here's the caveat... YOU HAVE TO WIN.

The offense has cost us multiple games over these last 3 years simply because they were incapable of doing the most basic fundamental sh*t, even garbage P5 teams can figure out a way to pass for 250-260yds a game, in today's era of college football you can literally manufacture yards off scheme & pace alone, but yet we can't do elementary level sh*t to move the ball down the field. We're the only **** team in D1 ball that has an offense chock full of 4-star players that still can't throw the ball lol.

It's real simple, if your offense is struggling you exhaust every option possible until you find what works, doing the same thing over & over again while expecting a different result is insanity.

Pace and space my friend. We're allergic to it.

 

[Cribby]

We’re one game in.

Personally, I think there’s no telling what our go-to WR rotation will be until after 4 games or so.

I believe the coaches are figuring it out themselves. For the first couple of games, it’s obviously going to be more heavily influenced by practice/scrimmage performances.

As games progress, I would think that there will be additional evaluations and tinkering until they settle more or less on 4-5 guys that get the most snaps.

They’re still figuring all this stuff out. If Pope or Wiggins doesn’t take a step I could see Payton taking their lunch money.

Wiggins is the head scratcher , dude is a great athlete , that stays open. But his hands are god awful. Pope has trouble with the mental side of the game and it’s holding him back. He’s thinking rather than just playing.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

They’re still figuring all this stuff out. If Pope or Wiggins doesn’t take a step I could see Payton taking their lunch money.

Wiggins is the head scratcher , dude is a great athlete , that stays open. But his hands are god awful. Pope has trouble with the mental side of the game and it’s holding him back. He’s thinking rather than just playing.

If Wiggins could catch he would be all ACC. He gets open a lot.

 

[Memnon]

We’re one game in.

Personally, I think there’s no telling what our go-to WR rotation will be until after 4 games or so.

I believe the coaches are figuring it out themselves. For the first couple of games, it’s obviously going to be more heavily influenced by practice/scrimmage performances.

As games progress, I would think that there will be additional evaluations and tinkering until they settle more or less on 4-5 guys that get the most snaps.

I'm not hitting the panic button, I'm simply tired of hearing excuses while not producing results.

They may be figuring it out as they go, but losing games in the process expedites the problem.

We lost multiple games last year because we had a pure sh*t offense & we lost to UF because we had a pure sh*t offense... They need to fix the offense, however they do it is up to them, but they need to fix it, it's really that simple.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

I'm not hitting the panic button, I'm simply tired of hearing excuses while not producing results.

They may be figuring it out as they go, but losing games in the process expedites the problem.

We lost multiple games last year because we had a pure sh*t offense & we lost to UF because we had a pure sh*t offense... They need to fix the offense, however they do it is up to them, but they need to fix it, it's really that simple.

Last year‘s offense scores maybe a field goal against UFåg this year. Maybe.

The patient is recovering, but he’s not jumping out of the deathbed and going into a full sprint yet