Please no more Stretch run plays

[MizCane]

We get little no yards. The past two weeks the running play we get positive yards on is in the pistol and a quick handoff up the gut or between the tackles.

We need to pound it up the gut of FSU. If we can control the clock, we have a much better chance.

I love the position we are in. all the pressure is on **** and FSU. No way they can lose to this Miami team,

 

[fincane]

Duke breaks at least two 15 yard runs on the zone(stretch play) per game it seems like. From under pistol or center it doesn't matter. He is great at it. Crawford got a big gainer on the final TD drive as well. It isn't going anywhere. Get used to.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Duke breaks at least two 15 yard runs on the zone(stretch play) per game it seems like. From under pistol or center it doesn't matter. He is great at it. Crawford got a big gainer on the final TD drive as well. It isn't going anywhere. Get used to.

This, Duke seems to be looking for the cutback lane so he can take it to the house. I would like to see us pound the ball a little more though.

 

[Gamineal]

okay....coley should get this info

 

[The Franchise]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

 

[SFbayCane]

My big issue with the stretch run plays is that our oversized O line has to go sideways off the ball. I'd rather they go forward off the ball.

 

[stat1124]

There is a place for zone blocking stretch plays. We just can't get carried away with running them constantly. I think Coley will have some wrinkles that he has yet to roll out for his old time. It is going to be exciting!!

 

[The Franchise]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

I've seen "the stretch plays are Duke's favorite" rhetoric on here quite a bit. I don't know that that's true because I haven't heard it from Duke. And even if it is, we have to do what will work best against fsu. And I just don't think slow-developing run plays against an aggressive fast defense like that will work consistently.

I don't want to be in 2nd and 12 too many times because that's where Morris gets annihilated. I'd prefer 2nd and 6, and I think going right at them reduces the chance of negative yardage plays.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

I've seen "the stretch plays are Duke's favorite" rhetoric on here quite a bit. I don't know that that's true because I haven't heard it from Duke. And even if it is, we have to do what will work best against fsu. And I just don't think slow-developing run plays against an aggressive fast defense like that will work consistently.

I don't want to be in 2nd and 12 too many times because that's where Morris gets annihilated. I'd prefer 2nd and 6, and I think going right at them reduces the chance of negative yardage plays.

I'm obviously guessing that they are his favorite because he's a patient runner that can cut back and take a crease for 50. I agree with you that aganist these 2 opponents we need to do more man on man blocking and let the OL set the tone.

 

[theibisrules]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

right...and every man DOMINATE the man they are responsible for.

 

[Hurricanemike32]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

I've seen "the stretch plays are Duke's favorite" rhetoric on here quite a bit. I don't know that that's true because I haven't heard it from Duke. And even if it is, we have to do what will work best against fsu. And I just don't think slow-developing run plays against an aggressive fast defense like that will work consistently.

I don't want to be in 2nd and 12 too many times because that's where Morris gets annihilated. I'd prefer 2nd and 6, and I think going right at them reduces the chance of negative yardage plays.

+1

 

[ZCanes]

There are a lot of obvious things we need to do to win like no turnovers on O, force turnovers on D, get to the qb etc.
Even with all that we need Duke to have a LEGENDARY performance Saturday night for us to win. 'Chise is absolutely correct. Duke needs to nut up and run, every play, like there is a pistol to mama dukes head. Needs to dig deep and have the best game of his college(and future pro) career. If he does that he goes down as one of the GOAT Canes.

 

[gogeta4]

all i know is that BEAST.....Telvin Smith will eat that sh*t up like a bat out of ****....that dude will slip and shoot th eblocks on the zone imo. We gotta get a hat on him....he imo is the best lb on either tema in the game...and sets the tone for their d.

we need to run some plays to play off of his speed and aggresiveness....hes a heady player though.

IMO fsu's ends arent anything special...we wont get aot of push on them...but they arent quick guys as their dt's. We need to blow Jernigan/Mcdaniel off the ball...which i thinkw e will have a problem with as Mcdermott isnt strong... and has problem with quick guys off the ball.

 

[Cribby]

I'm cool with stretch plays, just not on fourth and inches, to the short side of th field.

 

[LuCane]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

I've seen "the stretch plays are Duke's favorite" rhetoric on here quite a bit. I don't know that that's true because I haven't heard it from Duke. And even if it is, we have to do what will work best against fsu. And I just don't think slow-developing run plays against an aggressive fast defense like that will work consistently.

I don't want to be in 2nd and 12 too many times because that's where Morris gets annihilated. I'd prefer 2nd and 6, and I think going right at them reduces the chance of negative yardage plays.

I don't know if it's rhetoric. It's what best suits his style of play. Why are you saying that zone plays won't work against FSU? Is there anything behind that or just what you've seen of them in the past?

 

[freespirted305]

This...I understand the risk reward with the cut back lanes for Duke but on 3rd and short and 4th and short the risk is too high...rather just pick up the first down then go for the big gain play.

I'm cool with stretch plays, just not on fourth and inches, to the short side of th field.

 

[2LiveCanes]

There is a place for zone blocking stretch plays. We just can't get carried away with running them constantly. I think Coley will have some wrinkles that he has yet to roll out for his old time. It is going to be exciting!!

^^^This

From Wake nose guard Nikita Whitlock: "I think that (offensive coordinator) came out and really figured out what we were doing and was able to do some things off that," Whitlock said, referring to James Coley. “I mean they ran the stretch (play) the last two drives and killed us with it. I don’t know what he did different. They were running the stretch all day and we were stopping it. "I think they made a halftime adjustment to what we were doing and it worked well for the last two drives. And that just killed us."

 

[NorthFlaCane]

run power and then run counter, rinse and repeat

playaction off that with a tight end drag to the backside and one of waters/coley going deep

 

[The Franchise]

Slow developing run plays will get eaten alive by fsu. Yeah, we might break a couple for decent gains, but I think for consistent gains we need to go right at them. Duke's a menace to society between the tackles.

I don't disagree with this at all, it just seems like those stretch plays are Duke's favorite. The next 2 games is where you let your massive OL go out and dominate the guys in front of them and move the chains that way.

I've seen "the stretch plays are Duke's favorite" rhetoric on here quite a bit. I don't know that that's true because I haven't heard it from Duke. And even if it is, we have to do what will work best against fsu. And I just don't think slow-developing run plays against an aggressive fast defense like that will work consistently.

I don't want to be in 2nd and 12 too many times because that's where Morris gets annihilated. I'd prefer 2nd and 6, and I think going right at them reduces the chance of negative yardage plays.

I don't know if it's rhetoric. It's what best suits his style of play. Why are you saying that zone plays won't work against FSU? Is there anything behind that or just what you've seen of them in the past?

This is all opinion just like it's your opinion that Duke is best on stretch plays, but I think fsu is too quick and will cause too many negative plays if we go to the stretch well too often. I didn't say that zone plays won't work. I said that I'd prefer to primarily run right at them and blow them off the ball. I'd rather see what we can do hitting creases quickly instead of running laterally against a team with that sort of speed.