Perryman, Bush, Johnson, Scott updates

Word on the street is that EJ was suspended for skipping out on a team breakfast(s)


I don't care if he suspended him for tying his shoelaces too tight.

He's the coach.

Eddie Johnson knows the rules, and chose to break them.

Bottom line is we need to get better. Guys need to buy in.
 
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What's ridiculous is that he knew the rules and the consequences. He let his own teammates down for some real bull ****.
 
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Golden is doing what he has to do. He can be having Freshmen questioning his rules. Any other coach not named Coker would have done the same thing here. JJ didnt put up with that, Butch didnt, Shannon didnt, and Golden sure as **** isnt going to. Kid is a FRESHMAN, Golden needs to lay down the law because its his authority as HC that is on the line if he doesnt show that there are consequences.

On the Rashawn Scott thing, sounds like Golden did the right thing, and honestly, Scott will be LUCKY to be back on this team. Butch Davis booted Adrian Wilson, one of our starting DTs on a thin DL back in 99 for doing the same thing.

I mean Im actually surprised to hear people here questioning Golden for cracking down on kids slacking off. I mean isnt that EXACTLY how we ended up being Larry Coker's Coral Gables country club? We ranted and raved for years about lazy and entitled players who werent held accountable, showed up fat, out of shape, didnt practice, didnt work out. I think EJ is a PHENOMENAL talent and is going to be great here, but he needs to learn discipline and learn to be a LEADER on this team. That is the difference between the cr@ppola that Randy Shannon put on the field, and other players. Shannon recruited raw talent, and never developed jack. Look at all the slugs from Marcus Forston to Ray Ray who never learned discipline, leadership, or work ethic on this team.

This is all part of rebuilding the culture in this program.
 
What's ridiculous is that he knew the rules and the consequences. He let his own teammates down for some real bull ****.

and I'm sure thats the point that AG was trying to drive home to EJ and everyone else with the suspension

not slurping on AG at all cus that UVA game was a dumpster fire. at the same time you have to remember that EJ is probably 19 years old and because of the situation is one of the most important players on this team. that is props to him but also a lot of added responsibility that he may not be ready for and wouldnt be expected to shoulder if we had a veteran team
 
I mean Im actually surprised to hear people here questioning Golden for cracking down on kids slacking off. I mean isnt that EXACTLY how we ended up being Larry Coker's Coral Gables country club? We ranted and raved for years about lazy and entitled players who werent held accountable, showed up fat, out of shape, didnt practice, didnt work out. I think EJ is a PHENOMENAL talent and is going to be great here, but he needs to learn discipline and learn to be a LEADER on this team. That is the difference between the cr@ppola that Randy Shannon put on the field, and other players. Shannon recruited raw talent, and never developed jack. Look at all the slugs from Marcus Forston to Ray Ray who never learned discipline, leadership, or work ethic on this team.

This is all part of rebuilding the culture in this program.


It's because they are dumbasses.
 
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Is anyone else concerned that all the "suspended players" are Golden players...?? We all say something about Cain, Jermaine Johnson, Ray-Ray, etc because they were Shannon players, now we have Golden's recruits doing the same dumb ****...

It is bad that this is happening before game 10. Concerned, a little.

No junior and senior leaders on the field equates to no junior and senior leaders in the locker room and around campus.
 
I mean Im actually surprised to hear people here questioning Golden for cracking down on kids slacking off. I mean isnt that EXACTLY how we ended up being Larry Coker's Coral Gables country club? We ranted and raved for years about lazy and entitled players who werent held accountable, showed up fat, out of shape, didnt practice, didnt work out. I think EJ is a PHENOMENAL talent and is going to be great here, but he needs to learn discipline and learn to be a LEADER on this team. That is the difference between the cr@ppola that Randy Shannon put on the field, and other players. Shannon recruited raw talent, and never developed jack. Look at all the slugs from Marcus Forston to Ray Ray who never learned discipline, leadership, or work ethic on this team.

This is all part of rebuilding the culture in this program.


It's because they are dumbasses.

Well, our fans are the laughingstock of the country, so it fits.
 
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The fact that people are ripping Golden for disciplining kids is absurd.


This.

Don't we want to instill discipline?

It's a fine idea on paper. But Bowden never disciplined anyone and all FSU did was reel off 14 straight 10-win seasons.

Obviously, we can't have kids running amok and raping everyone to death but it would be nice to know what Scott and EJ did.

And everyone ripped Bowden constantly for that. It was a running joke with everyone around the nation that FSU had players running steps for bad offenses. That's not the way to run a program, especially one under the NCAA's microscope.

Bowden booted Randy Moss for smoking weed.
 
The fact that people are ripping Golden for disciplining kids is absurd.


This.

Don't we want to instill discipline?

It's a fine idea on paper. But Bowden never disciplined anyone and all FSU did was reel off 14 straight 10-win seasons.

Obviously, we can't have kids running amok and raping everyone to death but it would be nice to know what Scott and EJ did.

And everyone ripped Bowden constantly for that. It was a running joke with everyone around the nation that FSU had players running steps for bad offenses. That's not the way to run a program, especially one under the NCAA's microscope.

Bowden booted Randy Moss for smoking weed.
Wasn't that after he got kicked out of nd? Still have a recruiting magazine from when moss was a senior in high school.
 
The fact that people are ripping Golden for disciplining kids is absurd.


This.

Don't we want to instill discipline?

It's a fine idea on paper. But Bowden never disciplined anyone and all FSU did was reel off 14 straight 10-win seasons.

Obviously, we can't have kids running amok and raping everyone to death but it would be nice to know what Scott and EJ did.

And everyone ripped Bowden constantly for that. It was a running joke with everyone around the nation that FSU had players running steps for bad offenses. That's not the way to run a program, especially one under the NCAA's microscope.

Bowden booted Randy Moss for smoking weed.

No, he was kicked out of school after he tested positive for weed, while on probation and serving a 30-day work release program. He had to serve 60 days in jail after this, and FSU didn't really have a choice but to boot him. Bobby probably tried to keep him.
 
There has been no accountability in this team since Butch. Golden has a degree in psychology. Let the man manage. You stay the course no matter what is at stake. Otherwise you are simply prolonging the transformation

you talk about accountability. well where is it when golden talks about his DC. covers his *** every time but throws fisch under the bus for everything. unfair to the entire offensive unit who put up 31 pts which should be more than enuff to win against uva
 
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