Patrick Surtain Jr.

[brock]

If we are in his top 6-he's still not coming
If we aren't in his top 6-he ain't coming either
Who gives af when we are bringing in arguably our best db class ever
Surtain has excellent size and physical attributes but let's be real if you break his game down and the film of let's say tyson campbell, gurvan hall and josh jobe they are just as good if not better in terms of on field performance. And it's facts

 

[simplycanes]

If we are in his top 6-he's still not coming
If we aren't in his top 6-he ain't coming either
Who gives af when we are bringing in arguably are best db class ever
Surtain has excellent size and physical attributes but let's be real if you break his game down and the film of let's say tyson campbell, gurvan hall and josh jobe they are just as good if not better in terms of on field performance. And it's facts

I don't think anyone is arguing that being in or out of his top 6 somehow translates into a meaningful chance with Suntan, but when you're the 1 of 3 in-state power programs that didn't make the cut, it's not a great look, especially when there are direct ties to his position coach on your staff. That's what people are saying.

 

[LustNCanes]

I see both sides of the argument here. Kid was definitely never coming here after seeing all the DB's we have lined up in this class. Not that I think he is afraid of competition though. He has been an LSU lean since day one and KNOWS he can go elsewhere and play immediately due to numbers (although he would here too, too talented to keep off field)

BUT

at same time, for us to not even be listed in his top 6 is still a problem. This is an LSU/FSU race all day and he still lists others like UF? If Bama or OSU had our DB class and this kid was from Bama or Ohio, he would still have them listed in his top 6. It's a matter of perception IMO. Bottom line, this kid still doesn't think we are worth a **** yet more likely than not. Keep recruiting, crazier **** has happened. Prove it to him that we indeed ARE worth a **** and a serious contender and who knows. LSU may wet the bed, we lose Frierson and Jobe and maybe he will come around. Like I said, crazier things have happened.

I know many will disagree and say "Bama and Ohio State don't have to fight off two other in state schools so of course he would list them" and other reasons but at the end of the day it's JMO. Agree to disagree. When a top 3 player in the STATE, in your backyard, former player under your Corners coach, knows many of our commits/players, etc doesn't even list you in his final 6 BEFORE the season starts REGARDLESS OF YOUR NUMBERS AT THE POSITION, then you aren't where you would like to be pereception wise..yet. And unfortunately perception is reality in this recruiting game we all love to follow.


Just my .02. Don't shoot

PS - Just get T Campbell and keep what we have please.

Well stated. The problem with porsters like Broke is they have to live in a very black and white environment to survive. Nuance and context are lost on them. So if you say "hey guys, it's a bad look that a top player at his position with all these ties to the school and staff doesn't even have us as a finalist" you're hit with "but guysm! He was never even considering us! Campbell or die!" The truth is he's not really considering all these teams either, yet we didn't even make it to the finals and programs like Florida did. If you are intelligent, you can figure out the concept that a player like Surtain listing us as final 6 even though he's not considering us is infinitely better than not making his list given our inherent advantages. Those are not mutually exclusive things. No one here really thought we had a chance, but to not even make the final 6 is a problem for the optics and perception of the program. It isn't an existential crisis for the program, it's just not a great look.

I agree.
However, optics and perception of a program is a very fickle thing and can change overnight
...or in our case...16 days.[/QUOTE]


BOOM! +100

 

[Billy D Williams]

One guy does not guarantee anything other than you have another good player. Kid is an excellent DB, but we have kids that are his equal or better. If we get Tyson then no one would be concerned.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

 

[cubin10]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

Damage control or truth?

 

[RVACane]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

Damage control or truth?

Truth.

 

[RVACane]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Yeah USCw and Michigan surprised me. I also didn't hear any mention of UiF but maybe I missed it.

 

[George84]

Basically we are the girl next door for him. perfect.

 

[Cajuncane]

10 pages on another kid we have zero chance on....lol

Kid never thought about coming,never was coming and will never come.

Maybe we can throw a page or two at a few of the kids that actually WANT or WILL be Canes.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

 

[RVACane]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

 

[ThomasM]

Basically we are the girl next door for him. perfect.

We have a big season and he'll want in.

 

[apfenny3]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

Got to sneak out in the middle of the night

 

[BloodEunsOrangeAndGreen]

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

Got to sneak out in the middle of the night

Hitting that shot in the morning is breakfast. Anything more interferes with your perception as a bachelor. Man I miss college.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

Got to sneak out in the middle of the night

Coyote arm.

 

[IDCANE]

Pay close attention. 1:27

[video]http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/94477391-132.html[/video]

This interview was done on August 31, 2017

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

HAHA! Should end the thread with that reply!

 

[RVACane]

When asked if Miami was still in it at the 1:27 mark, he said "yeah... I can always visit there..."

What did you take away from that?

He wants to visit two schools (USCw and Michigan) that didn't make his "Final 6" and UM is still a factor. While it's most likely that he selects LSU, we are still a viable option because we are the local school, and he may decide that he wants to stay close to home. In short, keep recruiting him.

Channeling my bachelor years. Sounds exactly like we're that chick he's "comfortable" with. You know, it's 2:00 AM and your top prospects for the night didn't pan out, so you go by that chick's house, the one with the ok face, that makes you breakfast after you give her a spin, is always sweet to you, hoping one day you'll settle down with her. But you want the shiny new ones and that's who you keep going after.

Anyway, he ain't coming here.

You hung around for breakfast???

Got to sneak out in the middle of the night

It's like boxing - Stick & move, stick & move...