Pat Surtain, Jr. is now a 5 star on Scout

[RattlerCane305]

Wonder the same thing. Was he on varsity as a sophomore? Freshman? Also i dont understand how some of these kids get left so far behind. If they have that severe of a learning curve how do they graduate with a degree?

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FCAT is why. Jobe was a casualty of that along with starting school a year late.

So what about the main question of shouldnt he have been dominating two years ago.

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Man who gives a ****. ALA has Calvin Ridley who is **** near 21 already and no one is complaining about it...FSU had Kelvin Benjamin and he was old as **** too..its about time we got one too..A "ready the first day" grown man who will dominate. What better position then to have him in the secondary? Im glad he will be 20-21 when he steps on campus. It means he will be ready to bust heads the first day.

Im not saying its bad but Ridley was always a beast and i dont know much about Kelvin. All im saying is if i could have played varsity baseball at the age of 20 i may have had a chance to go d1 instead of going juco first.

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IMO it can go either way, if a kid's a little older he better be head and shoulders above the competition. He should look like he would still dominate even if he was a little younger or if his competition were a little older. You've always gotta be a little apprehensive that an older kid is closer to being a finished product in comparison to a younger cat. Wtbs, if it's really close deciding between two prospects talent and mentality wise but one is older than the other, I'm going with the younger one **** near every time.

 

[PSLcane772]

Surtain is all LSU, he's even said it multiple times.

I've read that on these boards a million times and I've even recited it several times. I just think that he is more open to UM than people think. I also think UM makes a lot more sense for Pat and the Surtain family for Pat to stay at home.

I don't agree or disagree with you. If my son was a top DB in the nation LSU would be a option for us to be honest. Their recent history makes them just as good a choice as UM. I can't say we're out right a better choice, we do offer early PT


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[gogeta4]

Quite a few things I would like to discuss in regards toward Surtain.


For the life of me, I do not understand the Patrick Surtain Jr. hype at all. He's a great prospect but not on this whole other level that some Broward coaches and these sites are trying to build him up as (being rated #1 corner on 247 and a 5 star on scout, he's definitely a 4 star but I don't think he's earned the prestige of a 5 star). Seen him live a few times between games & camps. This whole thing how they're treating him and acting like hes on another level compared to guys like Blades, Campbell, Jobe, Samuel Jr., Frierson, Bolden, etc. is waaaay off IMO. They're all in that same tier.

I was at The Opening at American Heritage. Guys like SS3, Bandy, Blades Jr., Samuel Jr. & Surtain Jr. were in attendance.

The best corner at the event was Asante Samuel Jr., head and shoulders over the others. He completely shut down his competition. He's gonna get knocked for his size by sites and people but as a pure cover corner, he was the best at the event and I truly believe he's the best cover corner in his class for 2018. Obviously Blades, Surtain and Ivey have more potential due to their size, but right now... Samuel Jr. is the best cover corner in the group.

On the topic of Surtain, I feel Tyson Campbell is the best DB prospect on that American Heritage team, but Surtain definitely a close second. Believe [MENTION=5124]Coach Macho[/MENTION] or [MENTION=1279]gogeta4[/MENTION] has mentioned this as well.

Tyson can play corner or safety on the next level.

Dont know other than Pat Surtain being his dad him getting 5 stars this early. He can play..but dude came from jv..this was his first year pl;aying varsity..And it wasnt like he was a stone cold beast..teams went at him..he made some plays though..He;s a solid div 1 prospect right now..but not even the best db on his team. To be honest if he was standing in a group of other dbs hhhhe wouldnt even stand out... I played with a 5 star db in high school.it was very noticable in his play..Surtain not so much.

-Samuel is the real deal..lil as ****..but plays like his dad...he makes plays on the ball.

cAMPBELLS LENGTH IS A PROBLEM FOR MOST WRS..sort of like Brian Edwards in this class..plus he has bal skills because he played wr up until last year.

He has the name..plus will get the offers especially with dad being coach...but 5 star this early? **** naw....Marco, Tyson Campbell both are better than him..and they are on his team

 

[INCaneFan]

Would Jobe be elite if he hadn't gotten so far behind in school? Two years ahead of everyone is a huge difference

Wonder the same thing. Was he on varsity as a sophomore? Freshman? Also i dont understand how some of these kids get left so far behind. If they have that severe of a learning curve how do they graduate with a degree?

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FCAT is why. Jobe was a casualty of that along with starting school a year late.

The FCAT is a joke. Anyone who has taken it would have a hard time understanding how someone could fail it and in turn graduate from whatever grade. Perhaps he has problems taking tests, but the FCAT is as easy as it gets.

 

[omaha]

If the kids name where Johnson or Smith would he be a 5 star?

 

[Canesfan1899]

LSU

My thoughts as well. We have a huge haul of players coming in over the next two years thiugh.


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[Zbrod95]

Would Jobe be elite if he hadn't gotten so far behind in school? Two years ahead of everyone is a huge difference

Wonder the same thing. Was he on varsity as a sophomore? Freshman? Also i dont understand how some of these kids get left so far behind. If they have that severe of a learning curve how do they graduate with a degree?

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FCAT is why. Jobe was a casualty of that along with starting school a year late.

The FCAT is a joke. Anyone who has taken it would have a hard time understanding how someone could fail it and in turn graduate from whatever grade. Perhaps he has problems taking tests, but the FCAT is as easy as it gets.

All the standardized tests are a joke for that very reason

 

[Ibis Wingz]

If the kids name where Johnson or Smith would he be a 5 star?

Was Ray Lewis' son a 5 star recruit?

 

[The Franchise]

If the kids name where Johnson or Smith would he be a 5 star?

Was Ray Lewis' son a 5 star recruit?

Every son of a former NFL great was a 5 star. Jarrett Payton and K2 were also 5 star guys.

 

[Ibis Wingz]

If the kids name where Johnson or Smith would he be a 5 star?

Was Ray Lewis' son a 5 star recruit?

Every son of a former NFL great was a 5 star. Jarrett Payton and K2 were also 5 star guys.

My bad.

 

[King Slayer]

If the kids name where Johnson or Smith would he be a 5 star?

Was Ray Lewis' son a 5 star recruit?

Every son of a former NFL great was a 5 star. Jarrett Payton and K2 were also 5 star guys.

Deion Sanders Jr was a 5 star

 

[omaha]

Ray Lewis kid was a D2 type of player which is just fine but don't give him a scholarship and don't give him stars.

 

[FrancisSawyer]

Miami wants Campbell at safety and Jobe at corner as of now.

That's good to know but just get those guys in then sort it all out later.

 

[ben]

I only want to sign Pat Surtain Jr. if we can sign Sam Madison Jr.

 

[GTPete00]

Quite a few things I would like to discuss in regards toward Surtain.


For the life of me, I do not understand the Patrick Surtain Jr. hype at all. He's a great prospect but not on this whole other level that some Broward coaches and these sites are trying to build him up as (being rated #1 corner on 247 and a 5 star on scout, he's definitely a 4 star but I don't think he's earned the prestige of a 5 star). Seen him live a few times between games & camps. This whole thing how they're treating him and acting like hes on another level compared to guys like Blades, Campbell, Jobe, Samuel Jr., Frierson, Bolden, etc. is waaaay off IMO. They're all in that same tier.

I was at The Opening at American Heritage. Guys like SS3, Bandy, Blades Jr., Samuel Jr. & Surtain Jr. were in attendance.

The best corner at the event was Asante Samuel Jr., head and shoulders over the others. He completely shut down his competition. He's gonna get knocked for his size by sites and people but as a pure cover corner, he was the best at the event and I truly believe he's the best cover corner in his class for 2018. Obviously Blades, Surtain and Ivey have more potential due to their size, but right now... Samuel Jr. is the best cover corner in the group.

On the topic of Surtain, I feel Tyson Campbell is the best DB prospect on that American Heritage team, but Surtain definitely a close second. Believe [MENTION=5124]Coach Macho[/MENTION] or [MENTION=1279]gogeta4[/MENTION] has mentioned this as well.

Tyson can play corner or safety on the next level.

Samuel looked like butt at that Atlanta event where Jeudy was killing everyone.

Two different events. He was great at The Local Opening.

From what I saw though from the Rivals Challenge, Al Blades Jr. looked great.

Jeudy got quiet in 7on7 portion. Jeudy is a little inconsistent but the right coach can get that out of him. He's hit or miss.

I understand that the local event was different than the one in Atlanta. He got chewed up in Atlanta from the video I watched. I like Samuel's ability, but to say he's better than Surtain is a stretch.

Accidental down vote - my bad

 

[plantcity3]

I only want to sign Pat Surtain Jr. if we can sign Sam Madison Jr.

Was the best duo in the league for years...

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[Barboni]

Wilson ran a 4.42

Surtain Jr ran a 4.52.

 

[DerekDohrman]

they had these kids run 100 & 200 meter dashes at the opening??

 

[BALLHAWKU]

Does Rumph get s pass if he missed On him also