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Part of the problem with Guidry

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hoops156 said:
thats including that Oregon played OSU already and UGA played Texas and Clemson
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JHallCanes said:
This is astonishing to me

But I also don’t think the backups are the answer. I don’t even feel like debunking the stuff in the OP because people are all in their feels about backups

But the pass rush has absolutely sucked for a while
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Do you think it's a coaching problem then?
 
FrancisSawyer said:
Do you think it's a coaching problem then?
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It’s never just one thing that’s all I know

I think Guidry is a solid coach. He certainly knows a lot more than I do and I don’t like to make too many claims when I don’t get to see the inside of the building and the practices

These guys aren’t robots so I hesitate to just say things are a certain way
 
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I don't think it has anything to do with him being a lower level coach. Tons of great coordinators at the lower levels. At the end of the day, the athletes may be better but football is just football.

I've said it before on here, but I'm not fond of Quarters coverage as a base. And our backup plan is man coverage. Offensive Coordinators have figured this out and are scheming against it.

I rewatch all the games. Just got done watching the condensed version of the Duke game.
Offenses aren't doing anything otherworldly against us in terms of scheme. It's pretty simple stuff to cover for the most part. I see some player error...but I also see a lot of situations where we could've made better (or safer) calls.

If the players are constantly getting beat in their one-on-one matchups, then it's talent.

But if the offense is facing little resistance from the defense, and offensive guys are wide open, then it could be scheme issues, bad eyes or bad teaching. (or some combination of those 3)
 
Im alright with using quarters or going man as part of the rotation but I really wish we would pattern match. Cover 3 matchup is the gold standard but if we cant even figure out quarters, I highly doubt we can teach/learn it effectively. Definitely not something you try to implement mid season.

Bring in Saban as an analyst damnit!
 
Cribby said:
We’re on the same page as usual. I haven’t liked it from the moment I heard he’d be inside majority of the time. He’s too light in the *** on the first two downs and like you said he doesn’t want to be there. He’s fine on third downs or obvious pass downs but even then he’s not getting much pressure.
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I've downright seen him get pancaked a few times inside.

Only in third down passing situations he should be there. You got dudes give those reps to those dts like Justin scott
 
He looked to adjust quite well in the 2nd half & force a bunch of TO's. Saturday will be another nice test. We don't have to be great. I still think we have the ability to be average or slightly above. Go Canes!
 
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gogeta4 said:
I've downright seen him get pancaked a few times inside.

Only in third down passing situations he should be there. You got dudes give those reps to those dts like Justin scott
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He’s just not a dt , he’s too light in the *** and on top of that he doesn’t have the mindset for it.
 
Coach Macho said:
I don't think it has anything to do with him being a lower level coach. Tons of great coordinators at the lower levels. At the end of the day, the athletes may be better but football is just football.

I've said it before on here, but I'm not fond of Quarters coverage as a base. And our backup plan is man coverage. Offensive Coordinators have figured this out and are scheming against it.

I rewatch all the games. Just got done watching the condensed version of the Duke game.
Offenses aren't doing anything otherworldly against us in terms of scheme. It's pretty simple stuff to cover for the most part. I see some player error...but I also see a lot of situations where we could've made better (or safer) calls.

If the players are constantly getting beat in their one-on-one matchups, then it's talent.

But if the offense is facing little resistance from the defense, and offensive guys are wide open, then it could be scheme issues, bad eyes or bad teaching. (or some combination of those 3)
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I was saying this in a different thread, last year he felt like he was a step or two ahead of the opposing play caller now its the opposite. They just have his number

I would be ok if it was just Louisville, vtech and other respectable offenses but cal duke fsu scheming up stuff is just bad
 
Stingarov said:
Really lends credence to the 'Guidry not being used to 6 opposing team analysts or so scheming against him all week because they have P5 level resources' narrative.

He's a career non-P5 coordinator for the most part.

I think he can grow but he better find a way to expedite 2nd half adjustments to the third drive.

Edits: phone changing my ****
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And how many coaches and analysts does Guidry have to help him? More than Duke and Cal I’m sure… I don’t think he’s losing the analyst battle.
 
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Coach Macho said:
I don't think it has anything to do with him being a lower level coach. Tons of great coordinators at the lower levels. At the end of the day, the athletes may be better but football is just football.

I've said it before on here, but I'm not fond of Quarters coverage as a base. And our backup plan is man coverage. Offensive Coordinators have figured this out and are scheming against it.

I rewatch all the games. Just got done watching the condensed version of the Duke game.
Offenses aren't doing anything otherworldly against us in terms of scheme. It's pretty simple stuff to cover for the most part. I see some player error...but I also see a lot of situations where we could've made better (or safer) calls.

If the players are constantly getting beat in their one-on-one matchups, then it's talent.

But if the offense is facing little resistance from the defense, and offensive guys are wide open, then it could be scheme issues, bad eyes or bad teaching. (or some combination of those 3)
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In which cases could we have made better calls and what would those be, in your opinion.
 
I'm not going to lie, I'm not a fan of 4-2-5 with our personnel this season.

I'd almost adapt to more of a 3-3-5 with more blitz packages from different looks

Not to mention we're rotating so many people in there. Seems like a lot of stunts and a lot of complexity

There's something to be said about how many guys we have fresh in the 4th quarter, but I'd like a more grueling approach early. I want to wear their asses out early.

Bring in some of the speed on passing downs and force the OL to figure out where the extra guy is coming from. Also with the 6th guy potentially in coverage we make the QB think a little longer and see if those short and underneath routes are going to be there
 
S.CarolinaCane said:
I'm not going to lie, I'm not a fan of 4-2-5 with our personnel this season.

I'd almost adapt to more of a 3-3-5 with more blitz packages from different looks

Not to mention we're rotating so many people in there. Seems like a lot of stunts and a lot of complexity

There's something to be said about how many guys we have fresh in the 4th quarter, but I'd like a more grueling approach early. I want to wear their asses out early.

Bring in some of the speed on passing downs and force the OL to figure out where the extra guy is coming from. Also with the 6th guy potentially in coverage we make the QB think a little longer and see if those short and underneath routes are going to be there
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That’s what he did last year with the 3 down lineman with Wes as the 4th rusher. I thought that helped a lot last year and you could do it now with much more rushers to employ. Maybe he wlill adapt just to give some different looks. Maybe different fronts and maybe more zone than man. Just something to change the looks
 
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Coach Macho said:
I don't think it has anything to do with him being a lower level coach. Tons of great coordinators at the lower levels. At the end of the day, the athletes may be better but football is just football.

I've said it before on here, but I'm not fond of Quarters coverage as a base. And our backup plan is man coverage. Offensive Coordinators have figured this out and are scheming against it.

I rewatch all the games. Just got done watching the condensed version of the Duke game.
Offenses aren't doing anything otherworldly against us in terms of scheme. It's pretty simple stuff to cover for the most part. I see some player error...but I also see a lot of situations where we could've made better (or safer) calls.

If the players are constantly getting beat in their one-on-one matchups, then it's talent.

But if the offense is facing little resistance from the defense, and offensive guys are wide open, then it could be scheme issues, bad eyes or bad teaching. (or some combination of those 3)
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What I saw in Duke game was about 2-3 just outstanding throw and catches that were indefensible IMO. Porter missed a tackle(is that a talent issue) that got them going on their first TD drive.
 
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