Our Admin and the NCAA

[Hegemon]

Spin away washing machine man.

Spin away.

Excuses are like ********, everyone has one.

Says the guy stating his opinion

Your point exactly?

Lemme guess another of the Trolls fanclub just showed up.

You guys are right, she's doing a great job on the athletic front.

LULZ

My point is pretty clear. You're ripping someone for stating an opinion, while stating an opinion.

Ya because his opinion is an excuse for an admin not doing a good job.

 

[Hegemon]

Spin away washing machine man.

Spin away.

Excuses are like ********, everyone has one.

Says the guy stating his opinion

Your point exactly?

Lemme guess another of the Trolls fanclub just showed up.

You guys are right, she's doing a great job on the athletic front.

LULZ

My point is pretty clear. You're ripping someone for stating an opinion, while stating an opinion.

And making an *** of yourself in the process, at least you have a healthy perspective on things. LOL

I don't make excuses for mediocrity.

Most Americans do.

Entitlement is a *****.

 

[hoops156]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

 

[Hegemon]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

Why not do it after Duke?

Garentee you if Duke was a home game things would be different.

I'm not questioning the ban. Mitigate the damage now obviously. The timing is bull****.

 

[hoops156]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

Why not do it after Duke?

Garentee you if Duke was a home game things would be different.

I'm not questioning the ban. Mitigate the damage now obviously. The timing is bull****.

yes ur a genius do it after duke. take it away after theyve just won the coastal. after they have their coastal champs t shirts and super excited about playing in charlotte for a shot at the orange bowl

 

[Hegemon]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

Why not do it after Duke?

Garentee you if Duke was a home game things would be different.

I'm not questioning the ban. Mitigate the damage now obviously. The timing is bull****.

yes ur a genius do it after duke. take it away after theyve just won the coastal. after they have their coastal champs t shirts and super excited about playing in charlotte for a shot at the orange bowl

You're even more of a genius since they CLEARLY could have done it earlier in the season.

The only reason that's anywhere near valid is limiting the ability for kids to transfer longterm.

 

[hoops156]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

Why not do it after Duke?

Garentee you if Duke was a home game things would be different.

I'm not questioning the ban. Mitigate the damage now obviously. The timing is bull****.

yes ur a genius do it after duke. take it away after theyve just won the coastal. after they have their coastal champs t shirts and super excited about playing in charlotte for a shot at the orange bowl

You're even more of a genius since they CLEARLY could have done it earlier in the season.

The only reason that's anywhere near valid is limiting the ability for kids to transfer longterm.

how bout the fact they were waiting for an LOI to come earlier or they were not sure where the NCAA was at with their findings and based on that if it is necessary to take the ban. remember no team has ever self imposed twice so they must have found something or learned something that they think will give them the 3 year ban or even 2 year ban. they are helping golden w this ban not hurting bc he can get it over with while the team is still young

 

[Hegemon]

the admin made the right decision to take the ban and it is not their fault the NCAA has taken this long in their investigation. and why would they have done it sooner if they did not know what their decision would be. what is the point of doing it earlier so you can know if the team has a shot or not? an article i read said if we announced before the year then juniors and seniors are allowed to transfer without penalty. if they were not sure if a ban would be necessary why run the risk of losing ur juniors?

Why not do it after Duke?

Garentee you if Duke was a home game things would be different.

I'm not questioning the ban. Mitigate the damage now obviously. The timing is bull****.

yes ur a genius do it after duke. take it away after theyve just won the coastal. after they have their coastal champs t shirts and super excited about playing in charlotte for a shot at the orange bowl

You're even more of a genius since they CLEARLY could have done it earlier in the season.

The only reason that's anywhere near valid is limiting the ability for kids to transfer longterm.

how bout the fact they were waiting for an LOI to come earlier or they were not sure where the NCAA was at with their findings and based on that if it is necessary to take the ban.

I think you mean NOA.

 

[Gennaker Cane]

Amen, Hegemon. I'm embarrassed to be an alumnus today because of this. If she and the administration had any decency they should have announced a self-imposed ban early enough so Mike James could have transferred to a school eligible for a bowl. Instead we string the team along all year until they can weigh what the bowl reward would be, then decide its not good enough. But God forbid they decline an f'ing NIT bid for the basketball team, or announce similar penalties to let basketball players transfer. UM is sorry it got caught, not contrite for anything. It's their right to run the place like it's just another business with "shrewd" moves, but its my right to tell them where to go when they ask for money while they still employ her.

 

[hoops156]

yes thanks. i meant NOA. just been reading a lot of bball recruiting lately. btw i am an alum as well

 

[Hegemon]

The Troll is a politician.

Nothing more or less.

 

[bigmont80]

Two things

1. The self imposed ban was the right decision

2. Prepare thy ****

 

[dycane]

My brain hurts after reading through this thread. After getting past the juvenile ad hominem attacks, there's not much else there. Yes, the football program has disintegrated during DS's tenure, but the only major mistake she made was hiring Randy Shannon.

Anyone who blamed her for the move from the Orange Bowl simply has no realistic context as to why that happened. There was no way we were staying in that place. I was personally in meetings with Huizenga's people when a City official told them that UM could not fight the City and that the City would not continue to keep that "dump" around for a measly 5 games a year. So, the move was inevitable.

And if you think, even remotely, that Donna, the Governor, or even God himself could make an on campus stadium happen, you're certifiable.

As for the athletic directors, well she obviously has an eye for talent because her two young picks ended up running HUGE athletic departments within a few years - can't blame them or Donna for those moves. And one of them picked Al Golden (with Donna's blessing), which means Al Golden picked (and appears to stick by) Donna. By the way, contrary to what the majority of our deluded fan base believes, some families don't like living in Miami. And I know it's shocking, but some athletic directors (and yes, they are the ones in charge of fundraising for the athletic department) would prefer to raise money at big schools with droves of good ol' boy donors and maniacal fans.

Oh, and if you think there's anyone more prepared to manage this Shapiro mess and mitigate the damage, please name him or her. This has been textbook. Not a single leak. Fully cooperative, yet we did many things behind the scenes to limit exposure.

Simply put, the facts, of course, don't support OP's general, conclusory indictments and retarded personal attacks. DS cares about football, but it's not her job to run the football program. It's her job to make UM the best academic institution she can. And having had numerous conversations with the woman, I can tell you she understands that the two aren't completely mutually exclusive. If you think DS wants the football program to fail - ****, if you think she wants anything but the most successful football program possible - you're delusional, Ace.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Amen, Hegemon. I'm embarrassed to be an alumnus today because of this. If she and the administration had any decency they should have announced a self-imposed ban early enough so Mike James could have transferred to a school eligible for a bowl. Instead we string the team along all year until they can weigh what the bowl reward would be, then decide its not good enough. But God forbid they decline an f'ing NIT bid for the basketball team, or announce similar penalties to let basketball players transfer. UM is sorry it got caught, not contrite for anything. It's their right to run the place like it's just another business with "shrewd" moves, but its my right to tell them where to go when they ask for money while they still employ her.

the difference regarding basketball is that there really wasn't anything but an allegation on dequan. the ncaa cleared him to play and stated they found nothing wrong so there was no reason to penalize basketball. football resulted in 8 immediate suspensions because they found proof. big difference.

 

[Hegemon]

My brain hurts after reading through this thread. After getting past the juvenile ad hominem attacks, there's not much else there. Yes, the football program has disintegrated during DS's tenure, but the only major mistake she made was hiring Randy Shannon.

Anyone who blamed her for the move from the Orange Bowl simply has no realistic context as to why that happened. There was no way we were staying in that place. I was personally in meetings with Huizenga's people when a City official told them that UM could not fight the City and that the City would not continue to keep that "dump" around for a measly 5 games a year. So, the move was inevitable.

And if you think, even remotely, that Donna, the Governor, or even God himself could make an on campus stadium happen, you're certifiable.

As for the athletic directors, well she obviously has an eye for talent because her two young picks ended up running HUGE athletic departments within a few years - can't blame them or Donna for those moves. And one of them picked Al Golden (with Donna's blessing), which means Al Golden picked (and appears to stick by) Donna. By the way, contrary to what the majority of our deluded fan base believes, some families don't like living in Miami. And I know it's shocking, but some athletic directors (and yes, they are the ones in charge of fundraising for the athletic department) would prefer to raise money at big schools with droves of good ol' boy donors and maniacal fans.

Oh, and if you think there's anyone more prepared to manage this Shapiro mess and mitigate the damage, please name him or her. This has been textbook. Not a single leak. Fully cooperative, yet we did many things behind the scenes to limit exposure.

Simply put, the facts, of course, don't support OP's general, conclusory indictments and retarded personal attacks. DS cares about football, but it's not her job to run the football program. It's her job to make UM the best academic institution she can. And having had numerous conversations with the woman, I can tell you she understands that the two aren't completely mutually exclusive. If you think DS wants the football program to fail - ****, if you think she wants anything but the most successful football program possible - you're delusional, Ace.

Great you talk to her.

I'm sure you're privy to all the politician is about. I look at results. She's failed. Again there's a difference between academic's and athletic's but you conviently glossed over that. Not surprised.

Love how the excuses for the athletic directors are made. Shouldn't these questions have been asked beforehand or is that too much for the Trolls followers? "Ya Donna I'll run that ship for 6-8 months but frankly South Florida sucks and I look forward to using that gig as a launching pad as soon as another job becomes available."

Yeup makes perfect sense.

Reading these responses is equally mind numbing.

 

[Gennaker Cane]

Then Durand Scott got suspended, and the other allegations were bad enough so that Haith and Jake Morton's future job status became issues. Watch, we'll self impose on basketball as soon as they learn the NCAA tourney isn't happening. Just the way the administration rolls.
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Amen, Hegemon. I'm embarrassed to be an alumnus today because of this. If she and the administration had any decency they should have announced a self-imposed ban early enough so Mike James could have transferred to a school eligible for a bowl. Instead we string the team along all year until they can weigh what the bowl reward would be, then decide its not good enough. But God forbid they decline an f'ing NIT bid for the basketball team, or announce similar penalties to let basketball players transfer. UM is sorry it got caught, not contrite for anything. It's their right to run the place like it's just another business with "shrewd" moves, but its my right to tell them where to go when they ask for money while they still employ her.

the difference regarding basketball is that there really wasn't anything but an allegation on dequan. the ncaa cleared him to play and stated they found nothing wrong so there was no reason to penalize basketball. football resulted in 8 immediate suspensions because they found proof. big difference.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Then Durand Scott got suspended, and the other allegations were bad enough so that Haith and Jake Morton's future job status became issues. Watch, we'll self impose on basketball as soon as they learn the NCAA tourney isn't happening. Just the way the administration rolls.
\

Amen, Hegemon. I'm embarrassed to be an alumnus today because of this. If she and the administration had any decency they should have announced a self-imposed ban early enough so Mike James could have transferred to a school eligible for a bowl. Instead we string the team along all year until they can weigh what the bowl reward would be, then decide its not good enough. But God forbid they decline an f'ing NIT bid for the basketball team, or announce similar penalties to let basketball players transfer. UM is sorry it got caught, not contrite for anything. It's their right to run the place like it's just another business with "shrewd" moves, but its my right to tell them where to go when they ask for money while they still employ her.

the difference regarding basketball is that there really wasn't anything but an allegation on dequan. the ncaa cleared him to play and stated they found nothing wrong so there was no reason to penalize basketball. football resulted in 8 immediate suspensions because they found proof. big difference.

reggie johnson was suspended too, but neither of those were connected to shapiro. dequan was the only one named in the shapiro scandal and that situation is the only one relevant. the scott and johnson cases are already done.

 

[D7.]

- Athletics has taken a nose dive since she took over (Football in particular)

- She has pumped large amounts of money to the medical program at a loss

- The academic rankings have gone down instead of up


Why is she still at the university?

 

[Hegemon]

- Athletics has taken a nose dive since she took over (Football in particular)

- She has pumped large amounts of money to the medical program at a loss

- The academic rankings have gone down instead of up


Why is she still at the university?

Academic's have gotten exponentially better under her tenure.

Academically she's been an A+

Everything else is spot on. She's failed but Team Troll needs to make excuses.

 

[D7.]

- Athletics has taken a nose dive since she took over (Football in particular)

- She has pumped large amounts of money to the medical program at a loss

- The academic rankings have gone down instead of up


Why is she still at the university?

Academic's have gotten exponentially better under her tenure.

Academically she's been an A+

Everything else is spot on. She's failed but Team Troll needs to make excuses.

Ah I though I had read the university dropped to 44 from 38 in the rankings.