Our Admin and the NCAA

[Scanedalous]

Lost in all of this back and forth is the fact that we as supporters should want forward progress for our University in all areas. Failures need to be corrected. Repeated systemic failures need scrutiny and likely overhaul type changes.

It still surprises me that many of our supporters and fellow alums don’t see these things and don’t see that just because a person is an administrator at our beloved University does not mean that they are currently succeeding at their positions. In recent years we’ve watched much higher profile universities then Miami gut out and clean up their administrative offices in the face of embarrassing scandals. Yet, our fans and supporters seem to think that we are doing just fine and not in need of changes despite the repeated scandals that have taken place under the current leadership group.

An associate of mine forwarded me the most recent interview of Alonzo Highsmith on the WQAM radio station. I suggest that some of you listen to this interview of one of our proud, successful, and industry connected alums as he speaks some very harsh realities about UofM. If you choose to disagree with Highsmith, then that is ok, but I’m in line with him on this topic and frankly you likely will not find a more informed person then Highsmith on this topic given his career role.

 

[Scanedalous]

Someone ripped Freet?

Now I'm glad I didn't take the time to read this thread. That guy is thedifference between our old 1980's athletic department and our current 2020's athletic department.

That is disappointing, however there is not much difference between our 80's AD and our current AD. Facilities are pretty much the same, we were on probation going into the 80's, on probation in the 90's and now on probation in the 00's. And we are still broke.

 

[Scanedalous]

University of Miami is not a professional sports team. Shalala is not a GM. The buck stops at the AD in college athletics and the AD dipped.

Mediocrity of the sports department, unfortunately for you guys, does not warrant the president to be fired.

Wow. More wow is all I can say at this point. I continue to be amazed at our 'supporting group'. Let us just say that there is a good reason why we seem to be stuck in the same cycle for 20+ years and this mindset is a key example as to why.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Lost in all of this back and forth is the fact that we as supporters should want forward progress for our University in all areas. Failures need to be corrected. Repeated systemic failures need scrutiny and likely overhaul type changes.

It still surprises me that many of our supporters and fellow alums don’t see these things and don’t see that just because a person is an administrator at our beloved University does not mean that they are currently succeeding at their positions. In recent years we’ve watched much higher profile universities then Miami gut out and clean up their administrative offices in the face of embarrassing scandals. Yet, our fans and supporters seem to think that we are doing just fine and not in need of changes despite the repeated scandals that have taken place under the current leadership group.

An associate of mine forwarded me the most recent interview of Alonzo Highsmith on the WQAM radio station. I suggest that some of you listen to this interview of one of our proud, successful, and industry connected alums as he speaks some very harsh realities about UofM. If you choose to disagree with Highsmith, then that is ok, but I’m in line with him on this topic and frankly you likely will not find a more informed person then Highsmith on this topic given his career role.

what repeated scandals are you talking about? we haven't had a major scandal since the pell grants in the 90s. and the only school to lose their president due to an athletic scandal was penn state in recent history. we don't have an athletic director to fire because the one that was there during the bulk of what happened is dead. we don't have a football coach to fire because the two have already been fired.

and alonzo highsmith is a respected cane player but his credibility dies when he keeps insisting that we can put a stadium on campus.

 

[dookie blaylock]

University of Miami is not a professional sports team. Shalala is not a GM. The buck stops at the AD in college athletics and the AD dipped.

Mediocrity of the sports department, unfortunately for you guys, does not warrant the president to be fired.

Wow. More wow is all I can say at this point. I continue to be amazed at our 'supporting group'. Let us just say that there is a good reason why we seem to be stuck in the same cycle for 20+ years and this mindset is a key example as to why.

shalala has been here for 11 years. just stop talking. the program was derailed in the 90s because of the pell grant scandal and it took 5 years to get out of that and we had 2 crap coaches after butch.

 

[Scanedalous]

No, your four pages of ****ing and name-calling has been primarily focused at Donna Shalala. When numerous people have posted anything to counter you, you have resorted to name-calling. You have also told people "thanks for not being part of the solution," at which point I have directly asked you now several times what you have done to be part of the solution. You have not responded to that AT ALL.

And once again, it's quite clear that most people's entire relationship with the athletic department centers around the football team. Many people do not give a **** if the basketball team is any good. Many people do not give a **** if the women's team is one of the better teams in the entire country. Same with volleyball, track, both tennis teams, the hockey team, and at times other sports such as swimming or soccer. I understand that nobody cares if our athletic department is losing money so long as our football team is winning, like was the scenario during the last few years of the Big East. I understand that nobody cares that our athletic department is financially stable now because our football is no longer winning like we are accustomed to pre-Donna. I understand that nobody cares the athletic department has done more in the last 12 years to improve the facilities and learning environment for our student athletes than has been done at any time in the modern era of our university.

Let's just call a spade a spade. You are fed up with the athletic department because the football team has sucked the last 8 years. You are fed up with the athletic department because somehow a jackass named Nevin Shapiro was allowed to bring such disrepute to our university. I am, too. But if you think Al Golden has done an astounding job, then I suppose that same athletic department, board of directors, and President you loathe so much should be given some credit for at least finally, hopefully getting it right. And as I've pointed out numerous times, Randy Shannon was the only BAD hire under Shalala, it just happened to be the most visible.

You have a problem with the marketing of the athletic department? It's never been stronger. Between brand recognition, Raising Canes, and one of the best social media accounts in all of college football, this seems like a baseless gripe. If anyone has problems with the job Chris Freet and his side of the AD has done since his arrival, I would be stunned.

As to the rest, I agree with all of them. I disagree that some of them have not been done or are not done, but that is really besides the point. The U needs to do a better job of vetting the candidates for AD this time around. But let's not pretend that the last AD was walking into a ****storm that would have been legally impossible to fully divulge the true details of the situation. There should be qualified candidates out there with ties to South Florida at the least, and hopefully ties to the University of Miami, that want the job. I agree the priority is to find someone committed to the University of Miami, and has more than higher job aspirations as a basis for that commitment. It will remain to be seen if we that winds up happening, but I'd venture a guess that if the football team is back to winning in the next two years as is expected under Al Golden, you nor many others will care who the AD is, what is happening in other sports, or how financially solvent our athletic department is.

Your comments are presumptive.


I am 'Fed up' with an administration that provides no support for an athletics department that I love and support as a whole. I continue to be astonished that some 'supporters' are of the mindset that an athletics department operates on its own and can do as they wish. There are administrative arms that control every department at UofM, not just the A.D. They are ALL limited to the level of support given by upper level leadership and whatever directions they approve for those departments along with the extension of resources to those departments so that they can move forward with such goals.

You are grossly exagerating the "Improvements" Miami has made for student athletes on campus. As i mentioned, i suggest you go listen to the Alonzo Highsmith interview. As for the progress of other sports, they will all go as far as the football program takes them. The football program drives fundraising efforts and raises the profile of all other sports programs. It is just reality.

It appears that you are ok with the status quo. As an alum, I want more and I want better for Miami. I fully understand how we arrived to this point and why we continue to cycle in the same canabilistic way. Those cycles are not broken by continuing on with the same formulas handed down by the same people. This is common sense. Often self evaluation is difficult and that is the reason why organizations frequently bring in outside consult. It is because people like yourself cannot objectively see the problems at hand.

 

[Scanedalous]

University of Miami is not a professional sports team. Shalala is not a GM. The buck stops at the AD in college athletics and the AD dipped.

Mediocrity of the sports department, unfortunately for you guys, does not warrant the president to be fired.

Wow. More wow is all I can say at this point. I continue to be amazed at our 'supporting group'. Let us just say that there is a good reason why we seem to be stuck in the same cycle for 20+ years and this mindset is a key example as to why.

shalala has been here for 11 years. just stop talking. the program was derailed in the 90s because of the pell grant scandal and it took 5 years to get out of that and we had 2 crap coaches after butch.

So therefor we should continue to live in the 90's with the same approaches? As Alonzo Highsmith stated "That is the dumbest thing I've heard"

The program has continuously been derailed because it lacks funding at all levels and is forced to hold onto any penny they can regarless of who might be providing it. Again, "We hired 2 crap coaches after butch" only goes to show how narrow your perspective is.

I continue to struggle with why it is that you and others seem to fight against progress. This does not seem like normal thought. It is almost as if you find pride in it. Very odd to say the least

 

[dookie blaylock]

University of Miami is not a professional sports team. Shalala is not a GM. The buck stops at the AD in college athletics and the AD dipped.

Mediocrity of the sports department, unfortunately for you guys, does not warrant the president to be fired.

Wow. More wow is all I can say at this point. I continue to be amazed at our 'supporting group'. Let us just say that there is a good reason why we seem to be stuck in the same cycle for 20+ years and this mindset is a key example as to why.

shalala has been here for 11 years. just stop talking. the program was derailed in the 90s because of the pell grant scandal and it took 5 years to get out of that and we had 2 crap coaches after butch.

So therefor we should continue to live in the 90's with the same approaches? As Alonzo Highsmith stated "That is the dumbest thing I've heard"

The program has continuously been derailed because it lacks funding at all levels and is forced to hold onto any penny they can regarless of who might be providing it. Again, "We hired 2 crap coaches after butch" only goes to show how narrow your perspective is.

I continue to struggle with why it is that you and others seem to fight against progress. This does not seem like normal thought. It is almost as if you find pride in it. Very odd to say the least

you are literally too stupid to argue with, so i'll stop contributing to this circlejerk of a thread.

 

[Scanedalous]

Lost in all of this back and forth is the fact that we as supporters should want forward progress for our University in all areas. Failures need to be corrected. Repeated systemic failures need scrutiny and likely overhaul type changes.

It still surprises me that many of our supporters and fellow alums don’t see these things and don’t see that just because a person is an administrator at our beloved University does not mean that they are currently succeeding at their positions. In recent years we’ve watched much higher profile universities then Miami gut out and clean up their administrative offices in the face of embarrassing scandals. Yet, our fans and supporters seem to think that we are doing just fine and not in need of changes despite the repeated scandals that have taken place under the current leadership group.

An associate of mine forwarded me the most recent interview of Alonzo Highsmith on the WQAM radio station. I suggest that some of you listen to this interview of one of our proud, successful, and industry connected alums as he speaks some very harsh realities about UofM. If you choose to disagree with Highsmith, then that is ok, but I’m in line with him on this topic and frankly you likely will not find a more informed person then Highsmith on this topic given his career role.

what repeated scandals are you talking about? we haven't had a major scandal since the pell grants in the 90s. and the only school to lose their president due to an athletic scandal was penn state in recent history. we don't have an athletic director to fire because the one that was there during the bulk of what happened is dead. we don't have a football coach to fire because the two have already been fired.

and alonzo highsmith is a respected cane player but his credibility dies when he keeps insisting that we can put a stadium on campus.

I believe UNC forced their Chancelor to resign following the most recent scandal in Chapel Hill.

Alonzo's credibility dies when he wants for his school what every other school in America has? Again, at times I don't think that some of our own supporters deserve a Miami degree or deserve to be Canes fans. I certainly wouldn't want anyone of your mindset working within the walls of UM, that is for sure. Can't do, won't do, refuse to do attitudes don't achieve higher levels of success. They only achieve to their self imposed ceilings.

It amazes me that when a well informed, extremely qualified alum with influence and experience in the athletics community steps forward to voice that our school needs to do more his own universities "Fans" tear him down. That is shameful to say the least. I have to say, I'm embarrassed for you.

 

[CaneWasher]

Not having an on-campus stadium isn't a "self imposed ceiling". Do you have any idea what we had to go through to get a tiny basketball arena?

 

[Scanedalous]

University of Miami is not a professional sports team. Shalala is not a GM. The buck stops at the AD in college athletics and the AD dipped.

Mediocrity of the sports department, unfortunately for you guys, does not warrant the president to be fired.

Wow. More wow is all I can say at this point. I continue to be amazed at our 'supporting group'. Let us just say that there is a good reason why we seem to be stuck in the same cycle for 20+ years and this mindset is a key example as to why.

shalala has been here for 11 years. just stop talking. the program was derailed in the 90s because of the pell grant scandal and it took 5 years to get out of that and we had 2 crap coaches after butch.

So therefor we should continue to live in the 90's with the same approaches? As Alonzo Highsmith stated "That is the dumbest thing I've heard"

The program has continuously been derailed because it lacks funding at all levels and is forced to hold onto any penny they can regarless of who might be providing it. Again, "We hired 2 crap coaches after butch" only goes to show how narrow your perspective is.

I continue to struggle with why it is that you and others seem to fight against progress. This does not seem like normal thought. It is almost as if you find pride in it. Very odd to say the least

you are literally too stupid to argue with, so i'll stop contributing to this circlejerk of a thread.

Fare enough. But it seems that the rest of the collegiate world agrees with those who share in my line of thought, including our own curent coach BTW. Go ahead and sit down with Coach Golden and get his honest words of what he feels is needed for UofM and then let him know that he is 'Too stupid to argue with'.

 

[dookie blaylock]

Lost in all of this back and forth is the fact that we as supporters should want forward progress for our University in all areas. Failures need to be corrected. Repeated systemic failures need scrutiny and likely overhaul type changes.

It still surprises me that many of our supporters and fellow alums don’t see these things and don’t see that just because a person is an administrator at our beloved University does not mean that they are currently succeeding at their positions. In recent years we’ve watched much higher profile universities then Miami gut out and clean up their administrative offices in the face of embarrassing scandals. Yet, our fans and supporters seem to think that we are doing just fine and not in need of changes despite the repeated scandals that have taken place under the current leadership group.

An associate of mine forwarded me the most recent interview of Alonzo Highsmith on the WQAM radio station. I suggest that some of you listen to this interview of one of our proud, successful, and industry connected alums as he speaks some very harsh realities about UofM. If you choose to disagree with Highsmith, then that is ok, but I’m in line with him on this topic and frankly you likely will not find a more informed person then Highsmith on this topic given his career role.

what repeated scandals are you talking about? we haven't had a major scandal since the pell grants in the 90s. and the only school to lose their president due to an athletic scandal was penn state in recent history. we don't have an athletic director to fire because the one that was there during the bulk of what happened is dead. we don't have a football coach to fire because the two have already been fired.

and alonzo highsmith is a respected cane player but his credibility dies when he keeps insisting that we can put a stadium on campus.

I believe UNC forced their Chancelor to resign following the most recent scandal in Chapel Hill.

Alonzo's credibility dies when he wants for his school what every other school in America has? Again, at times I don't think that some of our own supporters deserve a Miami degree or deserve to be Canes fans. I certainly wouldn't want anyone of your mindset working within the walls of UM, that is for sure. Can't do, won't do, refuse to do attitudes don't achieve higher levels of success. They only achieve to their self imposed ceilings.

It amazes me that when a well informed, extremely qualified alum with influence and experience in the athletics community steps forward to voice that our school needs to do more his own universities "Fans" tear him down. That is shameful to say the least. I have to say, I'm embarrassed for you.

he didn't resign because of the academic scandal. he resigned because he spent the university's money on travel improperly.

what makes you a "well informed, extremely qualified alum?" you're a troll. plain and simple.

 

[Scanedalous]

Not having an on-campus stadium isn't a "self imposed ceiling". Do you have any idea what we had to go through to get a tiny basketball arena?

So rather then support such a great and innovative idea proposed by a well respected alum we choose to tear it down instead? Again, while I may not take to the antics of Hegemon I have to say that he isn't far off on some of the site members.

 

[Scanedalous]

Lost in all of this back and forth is the fact that we as supporters should want forward progress for our University in all areas. Failures need to be corrected. Repeated systemic failures need scrutiny and likely overhaul type changes.

It still surprises me that many of our supporters and fellow alums don’t see these things and don’t see that just because a person is an administrator at our beloved University does not mean that they are currently succeeding at their positions. In recent years we’ve watched much higher profile universities then Miami gut out and clean up their administrative offices in the face of embarrassing scandals. Yet, our fans and supporters seem to think that we are doing just fine and not in need of changes despite the repeated scandals that have taken place under the current leadership group.

An associate of mine forwarded me the most recent interview of Alonzo Highsmith on the WQAM radio station. I suggest that some of you listen to this interview of one of our proud, successful, and industry connected alums as he speaks some very harsh realities about UofM. If you choose to disagree with Highsmith, then that is ok, but I’m in line with him on this topic and frankly you likely will not find a more informed person then Highsmith on this topic given his career role.

what repeated scandals are you talking about? we haven't had a major scandal since the pell grants in the 90s. and the only school to lose their president due to an athletic scandal was penn state in recent history. we don't have an athletic director to fire because the one that was there during the bulk of what happened is dead. we don't have a football coach to fire because the two have already been fired.

and alonzo highsmith is a respected cane player but his credibility dies when he keeps insisting that we can put a stadium on campus.

I believe UNC forced their Chancelor to resign following the most recent scandal in Chapel Hill.

Alonzo's credibility dies when he wants for his school what every other school in America has? Again, at times I don't think that some of our own supporters deserve a Miami degree or deserve to be Canes fans. I certainly wouldn't want anyone of your mindset working within the walls of UM, that is for sure. Can't do, won't do, refuse to do attitudes don't achieve higher levels of success. They only achieve to their self imposed ceilings.

It amazes me that when a well informed, extremely qualified alum with influence and experience in the athletics community steps forward to voice that our school needs to do more his own universities "Fans" tear him down. That is shameful to say the least. I have to say, I'm embarrassed for you.

he didn't resign because of the academic scandal. he resigned because he spent the university's money on travel improperly.

what makes you a "well informed, extremely qualified alum?" you're a troll. plain and simple.

Alonzo Highsmith is a well informed, extremely qualifed alum.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-holden-thorp-resigns-latest-athletic-scandal

Seems that you just want status quo. Some of us want more and feel that our student athletes and future students deserve more.

 

[CaneWasher]

So rather then support such a great and innovative idea proposed by a well respected alum we choose to tear it down instead? Again, while I may not take to the antics of Hegemon I have to say that he isn't far off on some of the site members.

Sorry, but ranting on Twitter and on the radio about "we need our own stadium" isn't exactly a great, original idea. What are the specifics of his financing plan?

 

[Scanedalous]

So rather then support such a great and innovative idea proposed by a well respected alum we choose to tear it down instead? Again, while I may not take to the antics of Hegemon I have to say that he isn't far off on some of the site members.

Sorry, but ranting on Twitter and on the radio about "we need our own stadium" isn't exactly a great, original idea. What are the specifics of his financing plan?

Do you believe that is all that Alonzo Highsmith has done is to 'Rant'? I agree, all those 'visions' need executable plans and I'm sure Mr. Highsmith knows that as well given that he certainly is not some dumb jocktype guy. From what I understand Alonzo has already met with many higher ups and influential supporters to discuss these very things.

Based on the sentiments of some of the site members it seems that even if a plan was devised and a group was formed to drive things forward they would still fight against the idea. That is just the overall sense that I get from the words mentioned by some site members. It is very self-defeating and certainly isn't how Miami arrived to where it is as an institution. You don't raise $2,000,000,000 in a short time span because you paid any level of attention to those who giggled at you when you mentioned your goals and deliverable dates. That isn't how achievers break the ceiling and raise the bar.

 

[hoops156]

enough w the stadium BS. unless highsmith wants to pay for most of it or you and i do its never gonna happen. MDC will not build anything resembling a stadium for at least 30-40 years and there is no room on campus. even if there was, coral gables will never allow it and if anyone on here doesnt know that then youve never spent any real time down there. the quicker u guys can accept it the better. we are not losing bc of shalala or bc we play in SLS now. u complain about how big it is but when there is no more than 30k (realistically) at games its gonna look big and empty. it got loud for FSU, OSU, OU, GT was pretty loud too in 09. we are losing bc of the coaching cycles we went through the last 10 years. if golden, who looks like a good hire so far, can be the great hire we expect him to be then well be back to winning games in any venue doesnt matter it could be SLS, the middle of the miami gardens, traz powell, FIU stadium, FAU stadium, or suniland park lol

 

[cane305]

even the most die hard Canes fans have to realize that Shalala has done more to the UNIVERSITY than any one individual football player that has ever played at the U.

The only person who I think MAY have done more to the school than Shalala is Schnellenberger.