millertime26
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Holy god... This negativity is worse than all my ex girlfriends combined. I think I may have found the lost tribe of Israel...
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Goes to carnival expecting football game. Get's mad.
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ML was seriously the show. However, Carter 6 in white looked Huge and solid as ****. Figs is a grown *** man. Perryman is more flexible than he was last season. Waters is bigger but seemed just as fast. In the one on ones Olsen threw some nice deep balls. The TE group is the best it's been in a decade. SD orange 5 was as good as CW imho. Gus made a sick move between the tackles and honestly he didn't have the ability to do that last season. Hopefully the vision came from understand the blocking assignments and he anticipated the guard play. Scott was impressive. Dion is back. Artie Burns looked behind due to track and field? Yearby #2 in white needs weight fast. DC is at home in the secondary. Al lost weight. The first three times Tracy was on Stacy in the one on ones, Stacy ate Tracy's lunch.
I don't know who that chick is, but I want to make babies with her. **** Boo Ya!
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Consigliere
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I hate the spring game and I don't get what people expect as the "optimal" results.
Do you want the offense to have a ton of big plays and success? Perhaps the defense is bad.
Do you want the defense to dominate? Perhaps the offense is terrible.
Do you want the offense and the defense to both have a lot of plays (TDs and INTs)? Perhaps the offense and/or defense is inconsistent.
Too me, I hope the following from the spring game/practice:
1. Healthy Players/No Injuries: Ryan Williams is out. Like I said, it is never good to lose your potential starter who is the only QB with experience on the roster.
2. Bigger, Stronger and Faster players: One would hope that the players have not only matured but are BSF.
3. Ton of reps to build collusion: Considering the offense had major missing pieces (DJ and JY) along with other potential starters out/limited (Clive, McDermott, Chick, HK), it is tough to build collusion. The defense had the majority of the unit in place, it would have been better if Pierre was fully healthy and Wyche was enrolled, but the D had the majority in place.
Do you want the offense to have a ton of big plays and success? Perhaps the defense is bad.
Do you want the defense to dominate? Perhaps the offense is terrible.
Do you want the offense and the defense to both have a lot of plays (TDs and INTs)? Perhaps the offense and/or defense is inconsistent.
Too me, I hope the following from the spring game/practice:
1. Healthy Players/No Injuries: Ryan Williams is out. Like I said, it is never good to lose your potential starter who is the only QB with experience on the roster.
2. Bigger, Stronger and Faster players: One would hope that the players have not only matured but are BSF.
3. Ton of reps to build collusion: Considering the offense had major missing pieces (DJ and JY) along with other potential starters out/limited (Clive, McDermott, Chick, HK), it is tough to build collusion. The defense had the majority of the unit in place, it would have been better if Pierre was fully healthy and Wyche was enrolled, but the D had the majority in place.
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I was going into this hoping the d was improved. Also after fsus spring game last year they looked bad 2 most on here n i thought they were good, every1 said there wideouts suk bla bla bla. I rather a game like this rather then our d getting ripped like past springg ames.
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Lmao, the D wasn't ripped because the QBs couldn't hit the broadside of a barn...
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Did anyone think Al was going to allow Coley to dial up plays. That would carve up his trending upwards defense? Seriously this guy wanted a great showing from that side of the ball. He **** sure didn't want to hear all summer about how the defense still looked like it was part of the 500 club.
Outside of the RB yesterday. Nobody else at a skill position looked too elated to be out there.
Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called “The Pledge”. The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course… it probably isn’t. The second act is called “The Turn”. The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you’re looking for the secret… but you won’t find it, because of course you’re not really looking. You don’t really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn’t clap yet. Because making something disappear isn’t enough; you have to bring it back. That’s why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part called “The Prestige.”
Outside of the RB yesterday. Nobody else at a skill position looked too elated to be out there.
Every great magic trick consists of three parts or acts. The first part is called “The Pledge”. The magician shows you something ordinary: a deck of cards, a bird or a man. He shows you this object. Perhaps he asks you to inspect it to see if it is indeed real, unaltered, normal. But of course… it probably isn’t. The second act is called “The Turn”. The magician takes the ordinary something and makes it do something extraordinary. Now you’re looking for the secret… but you won’t find it, because of course you’re not really looking. You don’t really want to know. You want to be fooled. But you wouldn’t clap yet. Because making something disappear isn’t enough; you have to bring it back. That’s why every magic trick has a third act, the hardest part, the part called “The Prestige.”
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The defense just has a different step to them this spring. Hard to deny that they were playing faster and more aggressive.
Whether that translates to a marked improvement come the season is to be seen but these are positive signs it will.
Whether that translates to a marked improvement come the season is to be seen but these are positive signs it will.
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I thought the scrimmage portion was awesome. Guys were hitting hard and playing with passion; we know that Gray Crow is not a major player and that was Olsen's first sniff at any real comp and he was not very good, I however do not think that is an indictment on his future prospects. It has been fun to watch the talent level steadily increase on this team and to watch the young players mature; ready for the season.
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Coley's offense is so easy to defend that it's kinda hard to tell how well our defense is doing. He's still running the same handful of plays he was running during the season. His whole system is based off his athletes making plays. (i.e. calling verticals every 3 plays and hoping someone beats coverage) There's no concepts to help his WR's get open or his QB to make easy/quick reads. As a DC, I didn't see anything that would create an issue for me schematically or would put my defenders in a bind. I watched other spring games and saw actual concepts. I don't see that when I watch our offense.
With that said...
How the **** is our defense supposed to get a real test before the season? How are they supposed to get better?
You're offense should make your defense work, and vice versa. When we hit the season and see actual concepts our defense is gonna look like a deer in headlights.
Coley's playbook:
*all verticals
*stretch run
*power
*play-action, roll left, TE to the flat
*play-action on 3rd and long
*hitch from #2, dig behind it with #1 (only pass play we have that actually works)
*WR screen
Now tell me I'm lying.
With that said...
How the **** is our defense supposed to get a real test before the season? How are they supposed to get better?
You're offense should make your defense work, and vice versa. When we hit the season and see actual concepts our defense is gonna look like a deer in headlights.
Coley's playbook:
*all verticals
*stretch run
*power
*play-action, roll left, TE to the flat
*play-action on 3rd and long
*hitch from #2, dig behind it with #1 (only pass play we have that actually works)
*WR screen
Now tell me I'm lying.
Is Allen Hurns such a great athlete that he put up the best yardage season in Miami history without any schematic help from Coley?
I've written this a number of times but for whatever reason all those route you're begging for I saw plenty of in the 7 on 7 portion. Some in the 11 on 11 stuff. Slants. Scott caught one. Grace broke up another. Another slant was ruined by a bad snap. A shallow cross by Dorsett. An intermediate dig by Dobard while Jones was running a shallow cross.
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Let's step away from the ledge, please. This game was televised. They're not going to show anything. Has anyone noticed that all the canes camp videos are cut to not show formation/front, action, or motion/shifts. Let's focus on what we know.
Our guys look a lot more impressive physically. They look athletic. They're playing hard.
The offense was simple, the defense was simple. It's a spring game. Vanilla and spring is like white on rice. Chilllllll.
Btw, for the defensive scheme haters, we played a TON of cover 1. We can stop complaining about the lack of man coverage.
Our guys look a lot more impressive physically. They look athletic. They're playing hard.
The offense was simple, the defense was simple. It's a spring game. Vanilla and spring is like white on rice. Chilllllll.
Btw, for the defensive scheme haters, we played a TON of cover 1. We can stop complaining about the lack of man coverage.
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Wildcat ain't never lied.
No slants, no shallow crosses, and for the love of God I think we've seen 4 or 5 TOTAL running back screens since Coley's started calling plays here.
The only reason Coley doesn't get more heat is due to the fact that the entire fanbase is enraged with the abomination that is Dorito.
And for the cheerleader crowd...my assessment of Coley has NOTHING to do with yesterday's scrimmage (since the running excuse will be we obviously ran a vanilla scheme for the sake of the spring game). Yesterday's scrimmage was simply a continuation of the same garbage we saw ALL last season when the middle of the field was basically ignored.
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Cane Dynasty
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That 'practice' was embarrassing for any Canes fan with a pulse. Go on ESPN 3 and watch some replays of other teams spring games this season. Completely different vibe, action, depth of schemes EVERYTHING. Some of their OC's actually opened up a little bit of their playbooks.
Obviously yes we don't want to give other teams anything to feed off of in terms of preparation but we also need to make sure that our guys are prepared. I feel that was not the case yesterday, that practice did almost nothing to help our young QB's especially.
NOTICE HOW THE TE'S WERE USED SO MUCH MORE THIS SPRING "game" AND THE SCREEN GAME WAS ON POINT TOO!!! /sarc
I am rustled the fvck up right now. How are our greenhorn QB's supposed to get used to managing a game with this bullchit? This was a chance to let Olsen run an actual game instead he just got some more "reps". (There was a point late in the 11 v 11 portion of the talent show....The offense got yet another false start and instead of backing up the team 5 yds AG told the refs to keep the ball spotted at the same place. because the shortened field I presume...point is.. the offense didn't have to go the extra 5 yds from the penalty...that stuff matters in the long run. Cutting corners is not the path to success in college football)
You know I'm not attacking you bro. Just replied to your post because I respect your viewpoints. IMO this was an opportunity lost by our program.
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I understand, trust me. I was there. I left early because it was a disaster, but I like to see it a bit more positively. That's just how I am. I also don't like to bash fellow coaches. Coaches, in general, rarely have anyone on their side, even when things are going well.
I think the format was boring. The 1 on 1's were more fun to watch than the scrimmage. Honestly, the biggest problem was the lack of playmakers at two positions, QB and RB. I would have loved to see RW and KO battle one drive after the other. Not just watch our only hope get up there every other drive and **** himself (no one wants to watch Gray Crow run the show -- ****'s depressing). I also would have loved to see our backfield in full swing. A little flash from Duke and Joe, then some power in the other guys we had playing yesterday.
It could have only gone so well IMO. If we were healthy at both those positions, it would have been more fun. I've been to almost every spring game since I was a kid. It's always the same ****. You leave with much left to be desired. Instead of first focusing on the negatives, I like to see what was positive . We looked much improved in a lot of areas (pretty much everywhere other than QB). I'm confident of that.
Maybe they had to dumb the playbook down some more for KO. Who knows? No one here has seen all of his practices this spring. His performance yesterday was disappointing, but I can tell you for sure that its not the norm for him. The pressure of starting at QB for the Miami Hurricanes finally hit him yesterday. Sometimes a poor spring outing leads to an increase in motivation in the summer. He's the kind of punk kid that need consistent humbling. He's a competitor, you can tell. He'll be ****ed off all summer.
If KO looks good, in the limited role that he was in, we're bounding off the walls today. The QB situation has me worried, but we needed to see what happened yesterday. KO is going to start on week 1, I think. He's going to have a limited playbook, as he should.
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