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Sabetta said:
Cane Dynasty said:
Sabetta said:
The mopes would've moped with any outcome yesterday. Let's go over a few.

-If we came up with injuries, they would've said the Spring game should have been cancelled because we have no depth.

-If Olsen lit up the D, the mopes would've been cursing Dfr's scheme.

-If the running game dominated, it's because AG has diabetes/is fat.

-If the Defense dominates, they're going against a RsFr QB/Coley's offense sucks.

-If the D got edge pressure, Gadbois is a JAG.

Same ol BS over and over again. Rinse, wash, repeat.
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I'm rustled. That was a debacle yesterday any way you slice it.
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I guess we look at things differently. While there are areas of concern, there were also positives. The Unis, Kamalu, Gus, Kirby, Hertelou, Crawford, Bush to mention a few. Add those to what we know we have in Duke, Stacey, Flowers, Figs AQM/McCord. It's not all that bad.

Olsen is the obvious glaring area of concern. But like I said in another thread and got negged to oblivion, if he didn't fvck off last season and put in work he would've been
much better yesterday. But according to many, it's a rights to passage to take a giant **** on the team and "get laid". Obviously from yesterday Olsen looked like a guy who hasn't seen live action in that type of situation since his Junior year of high school. You're right, that is a bit of a black cloud over yesterday.
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I think you're both right. It's a hard day to digest. The first thing we should look at are our expectations going in. Were they too high considering all the factors? We're coming off a poor performance in a bowl game, with a RS-Fr. QB making his first meaningful appearance. We're also a team coming into a new season with ton of maturing young players, who are expected to elevate their games. We're a team without our top QB and RB. We're also a team that didn't lose a **** thing to graduation. You make that determination.

You also need to match those expectations with what the program expected to get out of yesterday. What do we know? We know from their comments that they stayed simple on both sides of the ball (I'll take their comments for what they're worth, nothing more; I have a hard time just assuming everything they say is misdirection or a lie [their comments match up with their intent regarding the Canes Camp videos; they cut every play to not show front/formation, action, or shifts/motions]). They also expected to have fans on the field. Anybody with any filming equipment could be on the field. They could film a tight copy, they could listen to our calls and checks. Also, we know that they expected to have a good result on the field. No one wants to look like ****.

The problem with spring games are that expectations are very rarely equal. Gameday is easy. We just want to win the **** game.

After you manage your emotions, we can now look at the product on the field. Any argument you make after that is valid, if within reason.
 
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I didn't watch and I'll see the replay on ESPN Ocho tomorrow. My only question is how often were the 1's going up against 1's, 2's, & scrubs, and how often were they mixed together?
 
-offense operated much better from under center than from shotgun, snap and timing wasn't great from shotgun..

-The Olsen criticism is way over played, he held the ball a lot as he had limited options with the vanilla 2-3 receiver route combos that were being run. Much better than forcing throws a la his predecessor

-part of Olsens problem is we have the best DB play here in years, Im thinking Kenny Phillips/Kelly Jennings era..also the LB's are very athletic and making excellent drops in coverage, compound that with an improved pass rush

- Lets not forget that in our glory years, the D would make the O look like dogshyt, hopefully the concept that practice will be harder for Olsen than games is coming

-jer maine grace is an elite athlete, when was the last time UM had players of that caliber on their 2nd team

-Muhammed looks light, Chad's coming


-ereck flowers may be the best tackle in the country, the guy was squashing McCord/muhammed

-James Coley, luv u bro, but ****, learn how to entertain your fans and create excitement, that **** was a snoozefest, do a flea flicker, a fumbleroosky, anything

- special teams should be a strength this year with all these athlete tweener guys that are here

- I would expect teams to attack our defense the same way again this year.. on the perimeter, and running right down our mouth. DT. OLB, and Safety will be tested. Im thinking teams will still have success with the runs, but hoping to see improvement with quick passes to the flats and swing passes. Unfortunately our offense doesn't run those types of plays, so we don't know if our D is better prepared for it, and I think we have the personnel to offensively.
 
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I believe Tucker can be huge for us this year his big fast and runs under his pads love his game
 
fincane said:
WildcatDefense said:
fincane said:
WildcatDefense said:
Coley's offense is so easy to defend that it's kinda hard to tell how well our defense is doing. He's still running the same handful of plays he was running during the season. His whole system is based off his athletes making plays. (i.e. calling verticals every 3 plays and hoping someone beats coverage) There's no concepts to help his WR's get open or his QB to make easy/quick reads. As a DC, I didn't see anything that would create an issue for me schematically or would put my defenders in a bind. I watched other spring games and saw actual concepts. I don't see that when I watch our offense.

With that said...

How the **** is our defense supposed to get a real test before the season? How are they supposed to get better?

You're offense should make your defense work, and vice versa. When we hit the season and see actual concepts our defense is gonna look like a deer in headlights.

Coley's playbook:

*all verticals
*stretch run
*power
*play-action, roll left, TE to the flat
*play-action on 3rd and long
*hitch from #2, dig behind it with #1 (only pass play we have that actually works)
*WR screen


Now tell me I'm lying.
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Is Allen Hurns such a great athlete that he put up the best yardage season in Miami history without any schematic help from Coley?

I've written this a number of times but for whatever reason all those route you're begging for I saw plenty of in the 7 on 7 portion. Some in the 11 on 11 stuff. Slants. Scott caught one. Grace broke up another. Another slant was ruined by a bad snap. A shallow cross by Dorsett. An intermediate dig by Dobard while Jones was running a shallow cross.
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You have to pick out the occasional intermediate routes to prove your point. OCCASSIONAL. Our first series we went 3 and out. Verticals on 1st down. Run on 2nd down. Verticals on 3rd down. That was a common theme last season.

And LMAO @ Hurns getting help from Coley. GTFOH
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So you're saying Allen Hurns set the single season yardage record at Miami by just being a better athlete then everyone he faced?

Ok
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You're reaching, big time.

I'll tell you what. Why don't you explain to me why Coley is good? I can explain why he sucks, so by all means, debunk my theories. I'll wait.
 
caneaddict said:
-offense operated much better from under center than from shotgun, snap and timing wasn't great from shotgun..

-The Olsen criticism is way over played, he held the ball a lot as he had limited options with the vanilla 2-3 receiver route combos that were being run. Much better than forcing throws a la his predecessor

-part of Olsens problem is we have the best DB play here in years, Im thinking Kenny Phillips/Kelly Jennings era..also the LB's are very athletic and making excellent drops in coverage, compound that with an improved pass rush

- Lets not forget that in our glory years, the D would make the O look like dogshyt, hopefully the concept that practice will be harder for Olsen than games is coming

-jer maine grace is an elite athlete, when was the last time UM had players of that caliber on their 2nd team

-Muhammed looks light, Chad's coming


-ereck flowers may be the best tackle in the country, the guy was squashing McCord/muhammed

-James Coley, luv u bro, but ****, learn how to entertain your fans and create excitement, that **** was a snoozefest, do a flea flicker, a fumbleroosky, anything

- special teams should be a strength this year with all these athlete tweener guys that are here

- I would expect teams to attack our defense the same way again this year.. on the perimeter, and running right down our mouth. DT. OLB, and Safety will be tested. Im thinking teams will still have success with the runs, but hoping to see improvement with quick passes to the flats and swing passes. Unfortunately our offense doesn't run those types of plays, so we don't know if our D is better prepared for it, and I think we have the personnel to offensively.
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one thing I liked was when 93 and 91 where the DTs line some to stone wall or go backwards. Like everything else you mentioned!!
 
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if jermaine grace gets to 225 no way they keep him off the field. His number one goal should be adding weight.
caneaddict said:
-offense operated much better from under center than from shotgun, snap and timing wasn't great from shotgun..

-The Olsen criticism is way over played, he held the ball a lot as he had limited options with the vanilla 2-3 receiver route combos that were being run. Much better than forcing throws a la his predecessor

-part of Olsens problem is we have the best DB play here in years, Im thinking Kenny Phillips/Kelly Jennings era..also the LB's are very athletic and making excellent drops in coverage, compound that with an improved pass rush

- Lets not forget that in our glory years, the D would make the O look like dogshyt, hopefully the concept that practice will be harder for Olsen than games is coming

-jer maine grace is an elite athlete, when was the last time UM had players of that caliber on their 2nd team

-Muhammed looks light, Chad's coming


-ereck flowers may be the best tackle in the country, the guy was squashing McCord/muhammed

-James Coley, luv u bro, but ****, learn how to entertain your fans and create excitement, that **** was a snoozefest, do a flea flicker, a fumbleroosky, anything

- special teams should be a strength this year with all these athlete tweener guys that are here

- I would expect teams to attack our defense the same way again this year.. on the perimeter, and running right down our mouth. DT. OLB, and Safety will be tested. Im thinking teams will still have success with the runs, but hoping to see improvement with quick passes to the flats and swing passes. Unfortunately our offense doesn't run those types of plays, so we don't know if our D is better prepared for it, and I think we have the personnel to offensively.
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