Norvell traded kromenhauck for the BC qb??

I’m pretty confused why so many view Castellanos as a good pick up, anywhere. Dude lost his job, quit the team and his coach basically called him a *****.
 
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I’m pretty confused why so many view Castellanos as a good pick up, anywhere. Dude lost his job, quit the team and his coach basically called him a *****.


I have no idea. You'd have to ask @gacaneaddict , who seems to have his lips, teeth, and entire tongue wrapped around Castellanos's ****.

I've already posted the comparative stats that show Castellanos and DJU had nearly identical stats in 2023.

The Castellanos-worship is pure projection.
 
I have no idea. You'd have to ask @gacaneaddict , who seems to have his lips, teeth, and entire tongue wrapped around Castellanos's ****.

I've already posted the comparative stats that show Castellanos and DJU had nearly identical stats in 2023.

The Castellanos-worship is pure projection.


No funny guy, I recognize his talent, and if you can pass for 2K and run for 1K in ACC you have ability.

Sorry its just the way it is. He wasnt a good fit in BOB offense.

He will immediately elevate FSUs offense.

He will be a handful, you and the others can cope however you want, but really good pickup for FSU.
 
No funny guy, I recognize his talent, and if you can pass for 2K and run for 1K in ACC you have ability.

Sorry its just the way it is. He wasnt a good fit in BOB offense.

He will immediately elevate FSUs offense.

He will be a handful, you and the others can cope however you want, but really good pickup for FSU.


You don't recognize talent. You wouldn't recognize talent if it walked up and smacked you in the face.

He had stats for ONE year. And the stats for that magical 2023 year weren't even that good. His completion percentage was terrible. He had just over 1 TD per game. He had 15 TDs AND 14 INTERCEPTIONS. The only thing that Castellanos did well in 2023 was to run, and now it looks like he has stopped doing that (fear, injuries, who knows).

Yet you keep running around acting like this guy is the greatest QB on the market, because he had a mediocre 2023 year and quit his team in 2024.

It's insane. He will not "immediately elevate F$U's offense". He will be DJU-2, the sequel.
 
No funny guy, I recognize his talent, and if you can pass for 2K and run for 1K in ACC you have ability.

Sorry its just the way it is. He wasnt a good fit in BOB offense.

He will immediately elevate FSUs offense.

He will be a handful, you and the others can cope however you want, but really good pickup for FSU.
Really good pickup? LOL

Haw many games have you watch TC play. Go watch his games this year then come back and say this again. He's an average at best pickup for a team that is a mess right now.
 
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No funny guy, I recognize his talent, and if you can pass for 2K and run for 1K in ACC you have ability.

Sorry its just the way it is. He wasnt a good fit in BOB offense.

He will immediately elevate FSUs offense.

He will be a handful, you and the others can cope however you want, but really good pickup for FSU.

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You don't recognize talent. You wouldn't recognize talent if it walked up and smacked you in the face.

He had stats for ONE year. And the stats for that magical 2023 year weren't even that good. His completion percentage was terrible. He had just over 1 TD per game. He had 15 TDs AND 14 INTERCEPTIONS. The only thing that Castellanos did well in 2023 was to run, and now it looks like he has stopped doing that (fear, injuries, who knows).

Yet you keep running around acting like this guy is the greatest QB on the market, because he had a mediocre 2023 year and quit his team in 2024.

It's insane. He will not "immediately elevate F$U's offense". He will be DJU-2, the sequel.
Ok Mel Kiper, we can agree to disagree. HE does have talent, he will elevate FSU's offense, and I didn't say he was the greatest QB on the market, but the QB Market isn't great at the moment, and he is top 1/3. He isn't going to win be first team ALL ACC QB, he won't win a Heisman, or be high draft pick, but he is a playmaker on this level.

Also, DJU was by far the best QB on FSU's roster this season, he didn't have anything around him. Bad OL, BAD RB, BAD WR, everything bad. I am sure being a talent evaluator savant you are, you already know this.
 
Nix at GT too. His offense ran circles around Randy’s defense so he hired him.


I will address your post, because you know I love ya. Regardless of whatever Randy SAID about Nix, it's a flat-out falsehood on Randy's part.

Pat Nix was hired by Randy for his first staff in 2007. Miami joined the ACC in 2004. We played Georgia Tech (with Nix as the OC) in 2004, 2005, and 2006.

Wanna know the outcomes?

In 2004, when Miami was the #4 team in the country, we beat GaTech in Atlanta 27-3. Not a lot of "offense running circles around Randy's defense" on that day. Reggie Ball had 68 yards passing and 60 yards rushing. Certainly, this is not the day that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix.

In 2005, when Miami was the #3 team in the country, we lost to GaTech in Miami 14-10. This game was rescheduled due to Hurricane Wilma. Yes, it is true that GaTech scored TWICE in 2005 compared to ONCE in 2004, but come on. This is ALSO not "offense running circles around Randy's defense". Reggie Ball had 159 yards passing and 28 yards rushing, so a little bit better production than 2004. This cannot be the day that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix.

In 2006, when Miami was unranked, we lost to a RANKED GaTech in Atlanta 30-23. Maybe THIS is the day (or the QUARTER) that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix. However, when you look at the stats, Reggie Ball had 188 yards passing and NEGATIVE 20 yards rushing, so his production declined. The difference on offense was Tashard Choice, who had 107 yards on 26 carries (long run of 24 yards). Oh, and the fact that our offense was asleep for most of the game. We were TD-free for over 3 quarters of game-clock. We were up 13-3 near the beginning of the 2nd quarter, and then didn't score another touchdown until there were 2 minutes left in the game. It should also be pointed out that GaTech scored 17 of their 30 points IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. So, the reality is that Pat Nix's offense "ran circles around Randy's defense" for exactly ONE QUARTER in three games.

And this is the key takeaway. I don't give a **** if Randy Shannon DID claim that he was hiring Nix because "his offenses were so good". THAT is why Randy's comments rang false, BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED THAT WAY.

2004 - GaTech scored 3 points
2005 - GaTech scored 14 points
2006 - GaTech scored 13 points in the first 3 quarters, and 17 points in the 4th quarter

Now, the situation with Lovett was a bit different. Lovett was hired for 2009 after coaching at UNC for the 2007-2008 seasons. For the two years that Lovett was SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR for North Carolina (and Lovett claimed to have participated in defensive game-planning), North Carolina beat us 33-27 at home in 2007 and 28-24 in Miami in 2008. Even though Kyle Wright threw for 300 yards in 2007, they held us to 27, and then in 2008 UNC destroyed Robert Marve and held us to 24.

So Randy's comments about hiring Lovett, while questionable due to hiring a Special Teams Coordinator for DC, at least seemed reasonably plausible, since we were on a losing skid to UNC at the time.

Still, the bull**** about Nix was absolute bull****. We destroyed Nix's offenses for 2.75 of the 3 prior games we played.
 
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I will address your post, because you know I love ya. Regardless of whatever Randy SAID about Nix, it's a flat-out falsehood on Randy's part.

Pat Nix was hired by Randy for his first staff in 2007. Miami joined the ACC in 2004. We played Georgia Tech (with Nix as the OC) in 2004, 2005, and 2006.

Wanna know the outcomes?

In 2004, when Miami was the #4 team in the country, we beat GaTech in Atlanta 27-3. Not a lot of "offense running circles around Randy's defense" on that day. Reggie Ball had 68 yards passing and 60 yards rushing. Certainly, this is not the day that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix.

In 2005, when Miami was the #3 team in the country, we lost to GaTech in Miami 14-10. This game was rescheduled due to Hurricane Wilma. Yes, it is true that GaTech scored TWICE in 2005 compared to ONCE in 2004, but come on. This is ALSO not "offense running circles around Randy's defense". Reggie Ball had 159 yards passing and 28 yards rushing, so a little bit better production than 2004. This cannot be the day that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix.

In 2006, when Miami was unranked, we lost to a RANKED GaTech in Atlanta 30-23. Maybe THIS is the day (or the QUARTER) that Randy fell in love with Pat Nix. However, when you look at the stats, Reggie Ball had 188 yards passing and NEGATIVE 20 yards rushing, so his production declined. The difference on offense was Tashard Choice, who had 107 yards on 26 carries (long run of 24 yards). Oh, and the fact that our offense was asleep for most of the game. We were TD-free for over 3 quarters of game-clock. We were up 13-3 near the beginning of the 2nd quarter, and then didn't score another touchdown until there were 2 minutes left in the game. It should also be pointed out that GaTech scored 17 of their 30 points IN THE FOURTH QUARTER. So, the reality is that Pat Nix's offense "ran circles around Randy's defense" for exactly ONE QUARTER in three games.

And this is the key takeaway. I don't give a **** if Randy Shannon DID claim that he was hiring Nix because "his offenses were so good". THAT is why Randy's comments rang false, BECAUSE IT NEVER HAPPENED THAT WAY.

2004 - GaTech scored 3 points
2005 - GaTech scored 14 points
2006 - GaTech scored 13 points in the first 3 quarters, and 17 points in the 4th quarter

Now, the situation with Lovett was a bit different. Lovett was hired for 2009 after coaching at UNC for the 2007-2008 seasons. For the two years that Lovett was SPECIAL TEAMS COORDINATOR for North Carolina (and Lovett claimed to have participated in defensive game-planning), North Carolina beat us 33-27 at home in 2007 and 28-24 in Miami in 2008. Even though Kyle Wright threw for 300 yards in 2007, they held us to 27, and then in 2008 UNC destroyed Robert Marve and held us to 24.

So Randy's comments about hiring Lovett, while questionable due to hiring a Special Teams Coordinator for DC, at least seemed reasonably plausible, since we were on a losing skid to UNC at the time.

Still, the bull**** about Nix was absolute bull****. We destroyed Nix's offenses for 2.75 of the 3 prior games we played.
I was going off what Randy said. He said Nix did a lot of things that gave him problems and said that’s why he hired him.

 
I have no idea. You'd have to ask @gacaneaddict , who seems to have his lips, teeth, and entire tongue wrapped around Castellanos's ****.

I've already posted the comparative stats that show Castellanos and DJU had nearly identical stats in 2023.

The Castellanos-worship is pure projection.

@HurricanePhilly would like to reach out and learn this technique
 
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Ok Mel Kiper, we can agree to disagree. HE does have talent, he will elevate FSU's offense, and I didn't say he was the greatest QB on the market, but the QB Market isn't great at the moment, and he is top 1/3. He isn't going to win be first team ALL ACC QB, he won't win a Heisman, or be high draft pick, but he is a playmaker on this level.

Also, DJU was by far the best QB on FSU's roster this season, he didn't have anything around him. Bad OL, BAD RB, BAD WR, everything bad. I am sure being a talent evaluator savant you are, you already know this.


Oh, good lord, you are all over the map in your desperate attempt to white-knight for Castellanos. Are you related to him?

First, you jumped out of the gate by talking up Castellanos on MULTIPLE threads, talking about what a great impact he would have on F$U. Meanwhile, you were giving a halo effect to his mediocre 2023 season, while the reality is that the 2024 season is the one in which he quit on BC.

NOW you are backtracking by saying "he's not the greatest QB on the market" and "he isn't going to be first team All ACC" and "he won't win a Heisman" and "he won't be a high draft pick". And all of that is true, but it doesn't change all the puffery you gave to Castellanos previously.

More importantly, your comments on DJU are hilarious, because of HOW SIMILAR I've said that Castellanos is, and how similar the F$U situation is.

1. You are already giving Castellanos the "he will elevate F$U's offense" accolade, while knowing NOTHING about any other players who will be on this mythical "elevated" offense with him. Which is hilarious.
2. You then rip everyone on the 2024 F$U offense. Which is also hilarious. Because DJU had, essentially, an IDENTICAL 2023 to Castellanos's 2023, and DJU could not "elevate" the much better 2024 F$U offense.
3. You also IGNORE the reality of transitioning the OTHER TEN players on the F$U offense from 2024 to 2025. For instance, this "bad OL" (you forget) was based on SEVEN guys who had a ridiculous number of "starts" at F$U and prior schools. At least 6 of these 7 players were in their final year. So whether the F$U OL was "bad" or "good", they still must replace THE ENTIRE OFFENSIVE LINE. From the Portal. With a 2-10 record, a head coach on the hot seat, and a mostly new coaching staff.

So, sure, if you think that a "playmaker" will suddenly be able to turn around a Portal-restocked TERRIBLE offense, then that's on you. But the cavalier way in which you ASSUME that Castellanos will improve F$U, when DJU could not do the same with a "supposed-to-be-good" team coming off of an undefeated 13-1 year...it's just nutty.

I get it, you fell in love with Thomas Castellanos at summer camp way back in 2013. But you're inventing some HUGE PROJECTION of what Castellanos can do with a TERRIBLE team that is unlikely to get a lot better via Portal Magics. Quite literally, F$U may be replacing TEN starters on offense. How do you think that ONE mediocre QB will "elevate" the F$U offense when he has to deal with a (mostly) new coaching staff and a group of brand-new group of mercenaries?

Stop analyzing whether I'm "Mel Kiper" and admit that you know so little about the F$U returning roster (and where they stand in Portal recruiting) that you are running around GUESSING as to the impact of Castellanos on F$U's offense.
 
I was going off what Randy said. He said Nix did a lot of things that gave him problems and said that’s why he hired him.



I hear ya, you know I trust you implicitly.

I've just completely dismissed Randy's false claim for the past 20 years. It makes no sense at all. Nix's offenses NEVER did anything against Randy's defenses until the 4th quarter of the 2006 game.
 
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Every game I saw him play in pre-FSU was pretty bad. Baffled that FSU seemed to invest so heavily in him...
yea he was *** everywhere bruh

I ain't gonna tell you guys he was "good" by any stretch, but 2022 and 23, Pre-FSU, he was completing 60% of his passes and scoring TD vs Int 2 to 1. Objectively, FSU brought out a complete regression in him. He was practically unplayable. Castellanos is a desperation heave from Norvell, on the off chance his bizarre scrambles can win 5 games.
 
I'm not sure why some of you are trying so hard to convince yourselves that Castellanos stinks.

We lost to Haynes King. Castellanos is a similar if not upgraded version of a QB (King) that is a shaky passer but excellent runner.

Castellanos' problem is that he's tiny; if he runs at the clip that he likes to run, which is often, his ability to make it through a full season is iffy.
 
I'm not sure why some of you are trying so hard to convince yourselves that Castellanos stinks.

We lost to Haynes King. Castellanos is a similar if not upgraded version of a QB (King) that is a shaky passer but excellent runner.

Castellanos' problem is that he's tiny; if he runs at the clip that he likes to run, which is often, his ability to make it through a full season is iffy.
I believe @Cribby once referred to this guy as a poor mans Kylar Murray. He's not terrible, but hes not great either. Pair that with basically having another FSU team thats never played football together with all the transfers that will be brought in, and they will again be a bad team.
 
I believe @Cribby once referred to this guy as a poor mans Kylar Murray. He's not terrible, but hes not great either. Pair that with basically having another FSU team thats never played football together with all the transfers that will be brought in, and they will again be a bad team.
Agreed.

If FSU gets down and they have to pass, they're in trouble. But if they can keep the chains moving and slow game down, he's good enough to win some games. The problem for FSU is that their OL is a mess. But Castellanos is good enough to make easy throws, extend plays, and run the ball.
 
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