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LB Shawn Murphy​

Prior School: Alabama
Transfer Grade: 91
Snaps for FSU: 0 (Injured)
PFF Grade for FSU: NA
Shawn Murphy didn't play a ton over his first couple of seasons at Alabama, but his limited snaps were encouraging. But the context of those snaps were difficult to gauge as they came in limited scope and often late in games.
FSU had recruited Murphy out of high school, so there was familiarity with his game. He emerged as a target very late in the winter Portal window.
Murphy was brought in to contend for a starting job with promising underclassmen Blake Nichelson and Justin Cryer. But injuries have plagued Murphy through the spring and early this season, as Murphy has been unavailable through FSU's first two games.
Different sources have shared varying degrees of expectations for Murphy when he is able to return to action. We'll see if he can crack the rotation. FSU did end up going back into the Portal after the spring window for a player it recruited in the winter in Cam Riley, which might be telling on how the staff feels about this eval so far…

LB Cam Riley​

Prior School: Auburn
Transfer Grade: 87
Snaps for FSU: 50
PFF Grade for FSU: 61.0
Cam Riley came to FSU as a productive multi-year player for Auburn with 46 games and 10 starts to his name.
Athletic and lengthy, Riley offered up some intriguing traits for FSU to work with in the lone season it'd have Riley on campus. But his Auburn film also showed reluctance in triggering against the run.
The good and the bad have shown up in two games. Riley is second on the team with 17 tackles and has shown some promise as a fairly reliable piece in a rotation that's been let down by some of its more seasoned players to date. This has a chance to be a solid addition if he can continue to improve like he did from Game 1 to Game 2.

DB Omarion Cooper​

Prior School: Colorado
Transfer Grade: 86
Snaps for FSU: 0
PFF Grade for FSU: NA
Omarion Cooper came back to FSU after a one-year stint at Colorado. The initial plan was for him to provide depth at both safety and nickel. Through two games, Cooper hasn't played a snap on defense.

OL Jacob Rizy​

Prior School: Harvard
Transfer Grade 86
Snaps for FSU: 0
PFF Grade for FSU: NA
A transition was expected for Jacob Rizy coming from an Ivy League school, with his full value being that he's someone FSU was training to battle for the starting center job in 2025 after Maurice Smith exhausted his eligibility.
Rizy is listed as a reserve center on the depth chart, but hasn't played yet this season.

OL Richie Leonard​

Prior School: Florida
Transfer Grade: 87
Snaps for FSU: 121
PFF Grade for FSU: 64.8
Richie Leonard has probably been FSU's top Portal addition. He's been solid through two games, working at both guard spots, and is proving to be one of the more mature players on the roster as well.

RB Roydell Williams​

Prior School: Alabama
Transfer Grade: 91
Snaps for FSU: 54
PFF Grade for FSU: 65.2
Roydell Williams had 500 rushing yards at Alabama last year, and FSU expected him to build on that production in a more prominent role this season.
But Williams has just 48 yards through games on 15 carries (3.2 YPC). His Rush Grade of 63.6 is 167th out of 199 qualified RBs (10+ attempts).

OL TJ Ferguson​

Prior School: Alabama
Transfer Grade: 90
Snaps for FSU: 55
PFF Grade for FSU: 51.6
TJ Ferguson was evaluated at the prep level by FSU. He played sparingly at Alabama, primarily as a reserve with one start, but did show promising movement skills in a major frame even if his ability to locate and finish blocks were lacking. Processing was an issue at times on film, but the good was very good.
FSU battled Oklahoma for Ferguson in hopes of getting a chance to mold the talented interior lineman. Through two games, Ferguson has been one of the offense's lowest-graded players and picked up an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty this past week. He's played with a big brace on his elbow both games this season, so he may not be 100 percent.
Ferguson is a co-starter, rotating in at guard with Keiondre Jones.

DE Sione Lolohea​

Prior School: Oregon State
Transfer Grade: 90
Snaps for FSU: 46
PFF Grade for FSU: 67.6
An All Pac-12 2nd Team performer last year, Sione Lolohea has been a positive addition for FSU with his energy and strength at the point of attack. Some limitations are apparent when he's in space, but the former Oregon State product has been a benefit on a defense that has struggled with physicality this year.

DL Tomiwa Durojaiye​

Prior School: West Virginia
Transfer Grade: 90
Snaps for FSU: 0
PFF Grade for FSU: NA
Tomiwa Durojaiye was raw, that was known when FSU recruited him. But his power and explosiveness shined at times as a rotational player at West Virginia, and FSU brought him in – after battling Auburn and others – for a chance to mold him.
The idea was that Durojaiye could work at defensive end and inside as well, initially. But he was moved to defensive tackle full-time over the summer and has yet to play a snap.

QB DJ Uiagalelei​

Prior School: Oregon State
Transfer Grade: 91
Snaps for FSU: 121
PFF Grade for FSU: 70.4 (103rd nationally)
Issues abound on offense. DJ Uiagalelei isn't the main issue, but he hasn't been part of the solution, either. Which is a problem at the specific position he plays.
Uiagalelei is 92nd nationally with a passer rating of 116.46 out of 100 qualified signal callers.

WR Malik Benson​

Prior School: Alabama
Transfer Grade: 91
Snaps for FSU: 76
PFF Grade for FSU: 63.2
FSU beat out UF and Kansas State for Malik Benson, a player the Seminoles coveted two cycles ago out of the JUCO ranks.
Benson was a regular part of Alabama's rotation last year, but wasn't targeted much. The Seminoles felt like they could unlock Benson's speed and make him an NFL-caliber wideout within the one season he's in Tallahassee.
So far, Benson has 72 receiving yards on 10 targets. His production has been hampered by inaccurate targets, so it's hard to judge his performance to date.

DB Davonte Brown​

Prior School: Miami
Transfer Grade: 88
Snaps for FSU: 56
PFF Grade for FSU: 48.7
FSU tried to get Davonte Brown the prior cycle when he was a UCF transfer, but he ultimately joined his younger brother at Miami.
Brown struggled for the Hurricanes and FSU went back to the well here with the idea that Brown could transition into a safety in his one season in Tallahassee. His first game there was brutal, with multiple missed tackles and a PFF Grade in the 40s as FSU ultimately moved him out of the starting lineup in favor of underclassmen Conrad Hussey.
Brown did better this past week in a rotational capacity – which is what he was expected to be when brought in initially, not a starter – but still had a missed tackle. We'll see if he can clean up that aspect of his game.

RB Jaylin Lucas​

Prior School: Indiana
Transfer Grade: 89
Snaps for FSU: 19
PFF Grade for FSU: 77.1
The younger brother of Ja'Khi Douglas, Jaylin Lucas has been a bright spot. The Indiana transfer was brought in as a premium returner with some gadget ability on offense.
The return game hasn't popped yet for Lucas, but he's been one of FSU's few productive skill players in both games. Usage has varied, but Lucas has brought value to the lineup.

DL Grady Kelly​

Prior School: Colorado State
Transfer Grade: 87
Snaps for FSU: 30
PFF Grade for FSU: 74.2
After playing just five snaps in the opener, Grady Kelly saw an expanded role (25 snaps) vs. BC and delivered with a PFF Grade of 75.4. Kelly did well in holding up at the point of attack off the bench, which was what FSU envisioned Kelly being when he was brought back to the Panhandle after a few years in Ft. Collins.

CB Earl Little Jr.​

Prior School: Alabama
Transfer Grade: 90
Snaps for FSU: 19
PFF Grade for FSU: 40.5
FSU coveted Earl Little Jr. out of the prep ranks and jumped at the opportunity to get him on the second go-round. The Seminoles had to do some work, fending off Ole Miss here.
Little Jr. was dealing with some effects of a lingering injury in the spring, but FSU felt like he would make a jump in camp. That didn't quite happen as he couldn't beat out Kevin Knowles II for the starting spot nickel spot. His work off the bench in Game 1 was alarming, with a 29.4 PFF Grade that included poor tackling and at least one major coverage bust.
He rebounded some in a limited capacity this past week. The athleticism that existed in Little Jr.'s prep film hasn't really shown up other than in small spurts during his brief time at FSU.

WR Jalen Brown​

Prior School: LSU
Transfer Grade: 92
Snaps for FSU: 72
PFF Grade for FSU: 57.2
FSU heavily pursued Jalen Brown out of high school. Like with Little Jr., FSu made a strong push to get Brown when he entered the Portal and felt like he would bring an element of deep speed that the offense was missing.
On a positive note, Brown has gotten a good amount of burn through two games. The down side is that he hasn't done much with his time on the field, with 26 receiving yards on 5 targets (3 catches). But this is also a player FSU views as a long-term play, and the belief is that he's in the early stages of his development with a bright future ahead of him.

DE Marvin Jones Jr.​

Prior School: UGA
Transfer Grade: 93
Snaps for FSU: 77
PFF Grade for FSU: 51.3
Another player who FSU aggressively tried to bring in as a prep player, and circled back around on a few years later.
Marvin Jones Jr. offers up a ton of potential with his movement skills and frame, but his physicality was lacking at Georgia and that seems to be the case early in his FSU career. He's a starter, but also one of FSU's lowest-graded defenders through two games.
 
65 is an AVERAGE PFF grade:


Jaylin Lucas - 77.1
Grady Kelly - 74.2
DJ Uiagaleilei - 70.4
Desione Lolohea - 67.6
Roydell Williams - 65.2
AVERAGE
Richie Leonard - 64.8
Malik Benson - 63.2
Cam Riley - 61.0
Jalen Brown - 57.2
TJ Ferguson - 51.6
Marvin Jones Jr - 51.3
Davonte Brown - 48.7
Earl Little - 40.5
Shawn Murphy - 0.0 - has not played
Omarion Cooper - 0.0 - has not played
Jacob Rizy - 0.0 - has not played
Tomiwa Durojaiye - 0.0 - has not played


FIVE guys (out of 17) who are barely "above average". And DJU is "one of the best"...
 
nycane said:
problem is novel wants to be an NFL OC. he is not a great recruiter imo and he uses the portal which is a band aid. our portal supplements our last two loaded recruiting classes. Also, something is way off with their s&c program. they looked weak against BC.

Honestly, UF is probably the better job because if you can come in and keep lagway and some of those pieces and add the hanks and brown's and a few others, you can be ok by year 3.
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Well the problem is he won't come close to 10 mil/yr if he wants an OC job.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
65 is an AVERAGE PFF grade:


Jaylin Lucas - 77.1
Grady Kelly - 74.2
DJ Uiagaleilei - 70.4
Desione Lolohea - 67.6
Roydell Williams - 65.2
AVERAGE
Richie Leonard - 64.8
Malik Benson - 63.2
Cam Riley - 61.0
Jalen Brown - 57.2
TJ Ferguson - 51.6
Marvin Jones Jr - 51.3
Davonte Brown - 48.7
Earl Little - 40.5
Shawn Murphy - 0.0 - has not played
Omarion Cooper - 0.0 - has not played
Jacob Rizy - 0.0 - has not played
Tomiwa Durojaiye - 0.0 - has not played


FIVE guys (out of 17) who are barely "above average". And DJU is "one of the best"...
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I’ve always questioned PFF grades, but this solves it, it’s complete bs. DJ being a 70 is actually embarrassing. He’s clearly been at least half the problem with their offense.
 
JD08 said:
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They have Miami, Notre Dame, and Clemson and only 10 games left. If they won every game but those they'd be 7-5. I mean, your basically setting their ceiling at 7 and asking how many more GT and BC games do they have in them.

I think 4 wins is genuinely on the table. I do wonder if some of these players shut it down if they lose 1 of the next 2.
 
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Canefrom1991 said:
I’ve always questioned PFF grades, but this solves it, it’s complete bs. DJ being a 70 is actually embarrassing.
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For sure

Guessing in PFF's grading system a fourth quarter completion in garbage time effectively cancels out a bad overthrow to a wide-open target in the end zone when the game was still up for grabs
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Culture IS important. A winning team SHOULD have a good culture around it. It may not be the most important factor, but it is a factor.

But both UiF and F$U are using "culture" as a crutch. A few weeks ago, they were telling us how wonderful everything was. About how Slingblade Billy had created such an amazing family-friendly culture, and how everybody loved everybody. And Prison Mike had created C.L.I.M.B. and had instilled such an amazing culture that it led to a (fake) undefeated season.

And then after a couple of losses, they try to tell you the culture is toxic and broken.

Yeah, "culture" doesn't change that fast. And if it DID, then the culture was terrible from the beginning.
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Want to know what culture is? Going into your enemies house and taking his future, his 4th quarter song, his recruits and the deed to his house.
 
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Imukat said:
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Honestly he’s right.

As much as I hate hearing that ******* chant, from and fsu fan and tradition pov, taking that away is next level asinine

I assume their band is coming to hard rock. So those idiots will play something synonymous with them more here than at home.

Notre Dame, Michigan and USC laughing their asses off at them too

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TheOriginalCane said:
Look at this BULL****...



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The best part of their delusion is, they are blaming all the wrong things and not enough things at the same time. If a snub from 10 months ago is causing all these problems on a team that turned over like 40% of their roster who have no connection to it, then you’re idiots for letting it distract you.

And if you just want to blame DJ m, who for all of his faults the last time I checked, wasn’t playing defensive line getting his **** pushed in on national TV in back to back weeks, then you guys keep going & you’ll never solve your problems
 
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