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Cribby said:
Take away the yearly transfer or have contracts locking kids in. Washington State is the reason why this has to change. Pay the kids whatever they can get but this moving around every ten months will kill the game. Jesus the ncaa is like the government. They’d ***** up a wet dream.
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I guess the way you could do it is if you accept a ship, you have to do at least 60 credits at that school

allows them to at least maintain eligibility and graduate on time at their next school (for example: at UM you have to do your last 60 at miami so basically no more summer classes at the local college near you and transfer them in if you do a summer)
 
I think my only gripe with all of it is players switching teams every season.... I'm not gonna sit here and pretend I know a fix, I don't.... There's too many pro's and con's.....I'm just not a fan of a kid being in College for 3-5 years and playing for 4 different teams .... Something is just off with that for me....
I'm all for an athlete making their money but commitment has to stand for something as well and right now those lines have been blurred severely..... Again I have no answer, just opinion.
 
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pacusmc said:
This is 100% fax. The problem is that this looks like retribution from the NCAA cause they knew it would happen. At least now you can level the playing field, but it’s more of a headache. You know what was more of a headache, spending years recruiting a player having him come to your games, getting to know the family and then having a dude like Alabama Have one visit drop a bag and all that effort goes out the window. The NCAA had its gravy train with the SEC and other front runners and they look the other way and punished other schools when they got caught doing minimal violations. And now that that part was taken away from them, they decided to just look the other way at everything and laugh at everybody because it’s a mess and act like they were holier than though the whole time. I mean out of all the people they got complaining about NIL it’s Nick Saban going to Congress, the dude that had all of those football players driving around brand, new cars while the NCAA looked away.

It’s like sending Pablo Escobar to Congress to complain about the open border and drug trafficking.

“Hey guys, I used to have this on lock when I was in Colombia but you letting these Mexicans just go through the border. It’s not fair”


Yes, it’s a mess but look at the schools that are complaining the most about it. It’s the schools who had everything set up in their favor cause they had dudes in the NCAA looking the other way
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U know u’re my guy, & I agree w the premise of ur post. Sometimes the messenger is the wrong person to deliver the msg b/c it looks & becomes hypocritical. With that said, in what way has the playing field become level? If anything, SEC schools are complaining about SEC schools.

As far as I can tell, the same teams that’s flooded the CFP pre-NIL & pre-portal r the same teams that r flooding the CFP post-NIL & post portal. If it wasn’t for the expansion of 12, we wouldn’t see IU, Arizona St, or SMU. If anything, all the portal & NIL has done is hurt smaller market teams as their best players go to the top tiered schools, & have put every team in America on a “pay me or I’m leaving” frenzy every fcking yr.

The NCAA needed reform, but the reform should’ve came from actual members of the NCAA, not politicians who had their own agendas; &, now they’re like “how did this happen?” as their alma maters are feeling the effects of this. I don’t even follow recruiting anymore b/c the likelihood of a top tier player staying at one school for 3-4 yrs is slim to none. They r either going to bully their way out, or flame out. Having kids attend 3-5 institutions in a 5 yr period is absolutely absurd.

Also, again, no one talks about the vast majority of these kids either getting stuck in the portal or getting lied to on NIL. So I vehemently disagree that it’s leveled the playing field. Lastly, we can’t complain as a fan base b/c truth be told, we’re the poster child of the portal (Manny Diaz), & NIL (Columbus Crew). How has that worked out for us? I’ll tell u how: 43-30 w/ no ACC titles, not even a Coastal b4 the removal of division, & no bowl victories (for now).
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Keep the season as is.

Everyone has IPFs now.

March-April - ONE portal window (unless you graduate in summer or December)

May-June - "spring practice"

August - summer practice
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What about putting the single portal window after spring practice? Transfers can only matriculate in summer sessions. I don't know if it's feasible, but if transfers only have pre-season practice to acclimate to their new team, they may be less likely to jump ship. Keep the exception for the grad transfers as is though.
 
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90scane said:
It is all broken and I really don’t give two ***** now.

I hope the non B1G and SEC get to the championship game. That will cause even more problems and changes
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This is the blind spot for the powers-that-be. I think they underestimate how many fans the sport will lose. Just look at the NBA. Sports betting/fantasy keeps the NFL afloat, but college football is a different animal.
 
dycane said:
This is the blind spot for the powers-that-be. I think they underestimate how many fans the sport will lose. Just look at the NBA. Sports betting/fantasy keeps the NFL afloat, but college football is a different animal.
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Almost every sport is broken once media and money control it. Maybe I’ll just go with ufc and track. I’ll get back tons of time and can change who I like every month.
 
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Rellyrell said:
U know u’re my guy, & I agree w the premise of ur post. Sometimes the messenger is the wrong person to deliver the msg b/c it looks & becomes hypocritical. With that said, in what way has the playing field become level? If anything, SEC schools are complaining about SEC schools.

As far as I can tell, the same teams that’s flooded the CFP pre-NIL & pre-portal r the same teams that r flooding the CFP post-NIL & post portal. If it wasn’t for the expansion of 12, we wouldn’t see IU, Arizona St, or SMU. If anything, all the portal & NIL has done is hurt smaller market teams as their best players go to the top tiered schools, & have put every team in America on a “pay me or I’m leaving” frenzy every fcking yr.

The NCAA needed reform, but the reform should’ve came from actual members of the NCAA, not politicians who had their own agendas; &, now they’re like “how did this happen?” as their alma maters are feeling the effects of this. I don’t even follow recruiting anymore b/c the likelihood of a top tier player staying at one school for 3-4 yrs is slim to none. They r either going to bully their way out, or flame out. Having kids attend 3-5 institutions in a 5 yr period is absolutely absurd.

Also, again, no one talks about the vast majority of these kids either getting stuck in the portal or getting lied to on NIL. So I vehemently disagree that it’s leveled the playing field. Lastly, we can’t complain as a fan base b/c truth be told, we’re the poster child of the portal (Manny Diaz), & NIL (Columbus Crew). How has that worked out for us? I’ll tell u how: 43-30 w/ no ACC titles, not even a Coastal b4 the removal of division, & no bowl victories (for now).
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Don’t get me wrong. I’m agreeing with this nil needing to get some guidelines.

We have players that have been in college football for three years and they’re on their third school. The only way you can do that in the NFL is you continue to get waived or cut or traded.

But are we really gonna let the government do it? It’s like going from the corrupt ncaa with its power to an entity with unlimited power that can be influenced with money just like the ncaa.

My issue is make the rules and insure everyone follows it and punish everyone equally.
How can usc and us get the hammer while lsu, bama and ole miss a slap in the wrist for way worse.

So yeah, I want them to fix it, but I’m just sick and tired of certain programs getting a pass and now complaining that other schools can do what they did for decades.

As far as leveling the playing field both bama and uga lost multiple games and Oregon is undefeated. Those scenarios are because of the transfer portal. Uga was a **** hair away from having 3 loses and one to GT.

The only reason why we still have the playoffs filled with the usual suspects is because they’ve had a head start on stacking talent.
And the only reason we’re out is again because of the **** blue blood cabal that had bama with 3 losses ahead of us. And I guarantee you that Uga with 3 losses would’ve been ahead of us too leaving us at 13.

And even when nil became legal who was the very first school that got investigated and punished?

Saban flaunted his qb getting 8 million and UF lying to a kid and his family. And nothing happened to them.

So yeah it needs to get fixed. But I feel that as soon as they set guardrails in place they will let those schools slide.
So as a UM fan I’ll stick with the wild Wild West until it can be assured that tue usual suspects are also gonna get punished equally.

Sorry that I strayed a little from the topic about the portal.

But when I see sec schools complaining about Nil and the portal while we stack top classes and the have number one offense; I get very fckng skeptical.
 
Add language to the standard scholarship agreement, making them multiple years in which the player cannot transfer unless released by the team. The scholarship agreement will include revenue sharing based on the upcoming revenue sharing model. Include language to guarantee the players portion of revenue, sharing over the duration of the scholarship contract. This can help prevent programs from running players off. No opting out of bowl games unless you want to forfeit an amount of your revenue sharing.

You don’t have to make the scholarship for the entire four or five year ride, but at least make it two years with a third year option to be mutually agreed upon.

Essentially make the scholarship agreement a contract. If it isn’t already. I’m not lawyer but of some of you are.

In the end you’ll need player representation in the form of a union or player association. I see no way around it. I know the schools want to get Congress involved to put the toothpaste back in the tube, but that’s a bull**** solution in my opinion.

The biggest problems in college football have always been college football.

The NCAA has been nothing but a cabal of grumpy old men resistant to change. It took decades to get something resembling a true champion with the BCS championship. Then after a decade or more of that, we turned into the four-team CFP. A decade later we have the 12-team CFP. All of this driven by money of course but no one had the foresight to think where do we want to be 10 years from now or 20 years from now? What issues might we see from the tremendous growth in television and other revenues? You know, player movement, revenue sharing.

Unfortunately, conferences are only in it for themselves and not for the collective of college football.

The NFL works because all owners realize working together benefits the league as a whole. Except for Jerry Jones, maybe. Many of us do not like the product but no one can argue how they operate as a business. Except for Jerry Jones, maybe.
 
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Solution: Contractual obligations to play every single game sans documented injury / extenuating circumstance
 
The NCAA keeping the revolving door of transfer eligibility the way it is encourages these guys to transfer and renegotiate annually. It's smart business on the players side and sucks for the game and fans.

Closing up the unlimited transfer is the easiest and most straightforward path to slowing this down. There's some good ideas being discussed in here like tying scholarships to a minimum credit hours completion, or making the scholarship agreements more binding and have more teeth. I think the NCAA is afraid to do anything right now without Congress rubber stamping it because they have been getting their a$$es kicked all over the country in courts. The pendulum will eventually have to swing back at some point, or at least I hope.
 
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