Nike Opening Regional Results (Doing The Numbers)

[Bennubird]

Anyone know if Scott is injured? Did he slip at the start or have some other sort of mistake?

 

[Cans4life]

^I've seen kids run slow laser 40s just cuz they don't know how to take off. Plus he is a possession receiver that can be used to pick up 3rd downs over the middle catching the ball through a small window in traffic. I noticed his foot speed off the ball is better than average it's not all about straight line speed over the top. I viewed is soph tape and he clearly looks fast enough to play d-1 ball. What sticks out tho is his ability to catch the ball at its highest point in traffic. I'd challenge anyone to watch his fist 5 to 10 steps in 1on1s and tell me if you think he actually runs as slow. The kid just hasn't mastered the combine prolly shoulda scratched or skipped it like others including Juedy who only has his shuttle posted. Look at the times and you will notice several kids don't have their 40 posted. I'm not saying Scott is fast just know for sure he's faster than those numbers it's easy to see. IMO

There's a world of difference between being "fast enough" to play D-1 ball and being fast enough to play at Miami.

If we were talking about a player who looks fast in his highlights but times slow, then it would merit discussion about them possibly being unprepared for the 40. But this is someone who plays slow and times slow. His 63.87 overall Sparq score shows it wasn't just the 40 in which he performed poorly.

Being slow and lacking athleticism doesn't mean he can't be a serviceable college player, but I felt before he even committed here that we should be able to do better at WR. Hopefully this works out.

His highlights and SPARQ's confirm what we had all been worried about, his speed. He's not explosive.

He's much closer to being Tyre Brady, D'Mauri Jones, Darrell langham than to being Allen Hurns or Rashawn scott. Go watch Rashawn Scotts HL's in high school and tell me this kid compares. Very questionable take.

 

[Samson Doyo]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

 

[AL CANE]

I was impressed by Steed. He looked like he was carrying some extra weight at Rivals (normal coming off a shoulder injury), so he could be even quicker and faster if he leans up.

Was also impressed by Donaldson, Henderson (6'1, 4.35 in high school!) and Carmoni Green.

Scott's 40 time is alarming.

I've been saying this on Scott since everyone was praising the commitment. His film clearly shows he is speed deficient and he struggles to separate from DB's. While he may have some quickness he does not have the speed to be a Power 5 WR. JMO but I think we can do way better in a year that is very deep at the position.

 

[cflacane2]

Everyone jumped off nick roberts back now that he ran a 4.5 and now theyre going to dismantle scott. UM fans are the best.

 

[01Canes]

Everyone jumped off nick roberts back now that he ran a 4.5 and now theyre going to dismantle scott. UM fans are the best.

Nope. DMoney and I were questioning Scott in the South Florida WRs thread before he committed to Miami or ran 4.99 at 166 pounds. Try again.

 

[01Canes]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

Nope. 4.99 was Scott's 40 and 4.52 was his shuttle time. Overall Sparq score of just 63.87, which was the lowest number for any 2017 WR who competed in every athletic test at the event.

 

[1hurricane]

Something is not adding up. Scott is in ESPNJR 300 and GEO has him in the top 20 on the Broward/Dade 2017 player list. And everyone is saying he's not a take. What am i missing?

 

[michaelaf]

Ross 4.4 I guess that is why he is still around. Don't hear much about him.

 

[canes614]

Has anyone here other than Geo seen him multiple times in person? Also can anyone explain why Bama and UF offered this kid? Maybe we need to see an entire game film against good competition? Or maybe he played the entire junior year with an injury? His soph tape looks completely different. Again, it must be a reason why Bama offered this kid. It's his quickness off the ball and high point catching ability in traffic. Imo

 

[The Franchise]

If that 40 is accurate on Scott, then they need to drop him like a Taco Bell ****. You can't sign a 165 pound WR who runs a 5 flat 40 no matter how much game he appears to have. Just can't do it.

 

[The Franchise]

^I've seen kids run slow laser 40s just cuz they don't know how to take off. Plus he is a possession receiver that can be used to pick up 3rd downs over the middle catching the ball through a small window in traffic. I noticed his foot speed off the ball is better than average it's not all about straight line speed over the top. I viewed is soph tape and he clearly looks fast enough to play d-1 ball. What sticks out tho is his ability to catch the ball at its highest point in traffic. I'd challenge anyone to watch his fist 5 to 10 steps in 1on1s and tell me if you think he actually runs as slow. The kid just hasn't mastered the combine prolly shoulda scratched or skipped it like others including Juedy who only has his shuttle posted. Look at the times and you will notice several kids don't have their 40 posted. I'm not saying Scott is fast just know for sure he's faster than those numbers it's easy to see. IMO

There's a world of difference between being "fast enough" to play D-1 ball and being fast enough to play at Miami.

If we were talking about a player who looks fast in his highlights but times slow, then it would merit discussion about them possibly being unprepared for the 40. But this is someone who plays slow and times slow. His 63.87 overall Sparq score shows it wasn't just the 40 in which he performed poorly.

Being slow and lacking athleticism doesn't mean he can't be a serviceable college player, but I felt before he even committed here that we should be able to do better at WR. Hopefully this works out.

His highlights and SPARQ's confirm what we had all been worried about, his speed. He's not explosive.

He's much closer to being Tyre Brady, D'Mauri Jones, Darrell langham than to being Allen Hurns or Rashawn scott. Go watch Rashawn Scotts HL's in high school and tell me this kid compares. Very questionable take.

Rashwan Scott is a big dude who can run. He was a good deep threat here at UM. I'm not quite sure where he got the rep where guys started comparing him to a 165 pound guy running a 5 second 40.

 

[The Franchise]

Something is not adding up. Scott is in ESPNJR 300 and GEO has him in the top 20 on the Broward/Dade 2017 player list. And everyone is saying he's not a take. What am i missing?

You must have missed his abominable athleticism.

 

[Ver]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

This

 

[swdp12]

^I've seen kids run slow laser 40s just cuz they don't know how to take off. Plus he is a possession receiver that can be used to pick up 3rd downs over the middle catching the ball through a small window in traffic. I noticed his foot speed off the ball is better than average it's not all about straight line speed over the top. I viewed is soph tape and he clearly looks fast enough to play d-1 ball. What sticks out tho is his ability to catch the ball at its highest point in traffic. I'd challenge anyone to watch his fist 5 to 10 steps in 1on1s and tell me if you think he actually runs as slow. The kid just hasn't mastered the combine prolly shoulda scratched or skipped it like others including Juedy who only has his shuttle posted. Look at the times and you will notice several kids don't have their 40 posted. I'm not saying Scott is fast just know for sure he's faster than those numbers it's easy to see. IMO

There's a world of difference between being "fast enough" to play D-1 ball and being fast enough to play at Miami.

If we were talking about a player who looks fast in his highlights but times slow, then it would merit discussion about them possibly being unprepared for the 40. But this is someone who plays slow and times slow. His 63.87 overall Sparq score shows it wasn't just the 40 in which he performed poorly.

Being slow and lacking athleticism doesn't mean he can't be a serviceable college player, but I felt before he even committed here that we should be able to do better at WR. Hopefully this works out.

His highlights and SPARQ's confirm what we had all been worried about, his speed. He's not explosive.

He's much closer to being Tyre Brady, D'Mauri Jones, Darrell langham than to being Allen Hurns or Rashawn scott. Go watch Rashawn Scotts HL's in high school and tell me this kid compares. Very questionable take.

Rashwan Scott is a big dude who can run. He was a good deep threat here at UM. I'm not quite sure where he got the rep where guys started comparing him to a 165 pound guy running a 5 second 40.

Yeah, and when healthy he was productive

 

[01Canes]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

This

Again, no. Look 7 posts above yours.

4.99 = Scott's 40 time at 166 pounds
4.52 = Scott's shuttle time
63.87 was his overall Sparq score, which was the worst of any 2017 WR who took part in every athletic test at the event

This is all verified in the link provided at the start of the thread.

 

[Hurricane Warrior]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

This

Again, no. Look 7 posts above yours.

4.99 = Scott's 40 time at 166 pounds
4.52 = Scott's shuttle time
63.87 was his overall Sparq score, which was the worst of any 2017 WR who took part in every athletic test at the event

This is all verified in the link provided at the start of the thread.

Either way you look at it, a 4.99 would be a horrible time for the shuttle... Donaldson ran a 4.78 shuttle... at 345 lbs!

 

[Astcloud11]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Pretty sure that 4.99 is his shuttle & 4.52 is 40.

Go Canes!

This

Again, no. Look 7 posts above yours.

4.99 = Scott's 40 time at 166 pounds
4.52 = Scott's shuttle time
63.87 was his overall Sparq score, which was the worst of any 2017 WR who took part in every athletic test at the event

This is all verified in the link provided at the start of the thread.

Either way you look at it, a 4.99 would be a horrible time for the shuttle... Donaldson ran a 4.78 shuttle... at 345 lbs!

Yea, but I'd rather him run a 4.99 shuttle and 4.53 forty...at least the straight line speed would be there...somewhat

 

[Hurricane Warrior]

I hope he had a really bad day...
Rodney Scott WR 17 FL Southridge 6-0 166 4.99 4.52 34.0 29.0 63.87

Would take Kemore over him at WR based on this...
Kemore Gamble TE 17 FL Southridge 6-4 216 4.09 37.0 33.9

4 inches taller, 50 lbs heavier, much quicker, jumps higher, stronger... no 40 time but I can't imagine it been much worse than 4.99...

Yeah, and that would have been the best out of two 40's. Kemore also looked good in 1-on-1's and his short area quickness is very impressive at 4.09.

Waynmon Steed LB 17 FL Miami Central 5-11 221 4.74 4.33 40.0 30.6 102.36

[MENTION=10316]waynejr31[/MENTION] Serious question, how did Waynmon go from 6'1" 225 at the Army combines this year to 5'11" 221 at the opening? Did they measure him with his shoes on or include his hair? I don't get it since they are all supposed to be verified measurements... It always confused me when profiles of players vary so much from one site to another, I tried to get verified measurement from events and now even those vary from event to event.

I mean he measured in at 6'0 last year at the same event.

WayeJr31: Thanks my fellow Canes fans for the blessings.
Here are Waynmon's numbers from the Nike Camp today.
6'0" 198
40 yard laser 4.73 (I had him at a 4.55 hand time)
20 yard shuttle 4.38
Power ball 34
Vertical 30.5

He did get stronger while maintaining his speed and quickness after putting on 20+ lbs. That is impressive coming off an injury.

 

[Odin]

Very smart move by Scott to commit before putting up those numbers and scaring every school away.