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[Consigliere]

I want to hear consingler aka Dorito apologist explain this

I posted already big man, it's not my fault you are illiterate.

bro you were in hiding after the VT fiasco b/c u and your compadres were slurping off Dorito like he's the 2nd coming off Nick Saban. Making every excuse in the world for him even saying that it's the offenses fault why the defense is struggling and the talent, anything but Dorito.

You made one stupid post after the other acting like anyone who was against Dorito was delusional while you just as easily put all the blame on the offense b/c James Coley isnt Goldens best friend.

Please note I am straight. I like how you got up and made this post before 6AM this morning. I appreciate how you think of me and I am sorry you think I was hiding.

Zone me and you will never agree. It has nothing to do with Coach D either. Move on and find someone else to think of.

 

[The Franchise]

**** I even forgot about ANOTHER JUCO we went after. Bond. Thats FIVE guys we went after in the off season to try to build up this defense. Think of how BAD the depth and/or talent must be, that we went after FIVE transfers and JUCOs just for the DEFENSE. I cant remember us EVER going after that many JUCOs or transfers in one year on just one side of the ball.

We recruited JUCO players, so that's a reason for us to get gashed to death by everyone including the 100th ranked offense that everyone's been owning this year? I'm not buying it. As for your question about why we should be better than last year from your previous post, I think that's the usual course of growth. You're supposed to get better if you're going in the right direction just because your players have been with you and in your system for another full offseason.

Come on dude, you are better than that. You know **** well what Im saying. LOL. It wasnt "we recruited JUCO players". We brought in FIVE JUCO and Transfers JUST on Defense. FIVE guys for our defense. In one off season. That has NEVER happened in the 30 years I have been watching UM Football. Weve brought in guys, but FIVE just on one side of the ball? Not ONLY does it tell you that we were thin, but regardless of wether you believe it or not, what it ALSO reveals, is how the STAFF feels about our talent and depth on Defense. Which, if nothing else, at least partially explains why they are playing as conservatively as they are. Wether its true or not, its obvious that AG and MD are not happy with the talent and depth on the defense.

I have said repeatedly that the talent of the players who play the most on D isn't all that great right now. There's no questioning that. The disconnect between those making excuses for our corches and those demanding more of them is that the talent is nowhere near bad enough to justify the atrocious results.

VT's talent had them rated 100th offensively coming into our game, and they were universally considered a **** offensive club. Everyone pretty much owned them. And they went out there and marched up and down the field at will on us and scored as much as they wanted to. We stood no chance of stopping or slowing them down and made an erratic QB look like a Heisman finalist. With EVERYTHING on the line, we laid a pterodactyl egg. That's why everyone's so tweaked.

Brother I understand perfectly why everyone is ****ed. I am ****ed and disgusted too. But what Im trying to do is have rational conversations about WHY we are in the mess we are in. To me, the "Scheme sucks, Donofrio is a moron" excuse is over simplistic and not telling the whole story, maybe not even most of it. These guys arent mentally retarded, so there is a major breakdown somewhere on the defense, and I would like to see it fixed. For all the huffing and puffing and bombastic demands, AG is NOT going to fire Donofrio tommorow, or next week, or next month. IF he goes, it wont be til the end of the season, and personally, I dont want to drop 2 or 3 more games just to "prove" that he sucks and should be fired. I would like us to win out.

I dont think anyone is making excuses for Donofrio. Its obvious he is not getting the job done. Can he get it fixed? I dont know, and I would hope that he's running out of time to figure it out. But I think people may be setting themselves up for great disappointment if they think this is a simple matter of just replacing a DC and everything is going to be fine. I think our problems are more than just schematic.

Corch Duh' knows football. Shanntard knew football too. So does C0cker, Pat Nix, Rich Olsen, Whip, Bill Dung and all the other guys who have traipsed through here over the past decade and failed. It's not a question of "knowing football" or being retarded or any of that. Some guys just aren't great at their jobs. It's that simple. There are barbers who are superior to other barbers. Mechanics that are better than others. And there are football coaches that are better than others too.

It could be a question of fit here at UM or something else. But, whatever the problem is, it's clear that the defense Corch Al and Duh' are attempting to employ here is not working. I don't care what the reason is. There's a large enough sample size (3 years) and enough complete failures against bad offenses to be certain it's not working. It's time to go in another direction, or Corch Al will eventually go down in flames.

 

[RiDLer80]

I like this new Franchise.

 

[AUcane]

Watch Auburn and ask yourself if they're getting better as a program in Gus's FIRST YEAR AS HC. You left that part out. It's his first year there, and he's taken the SEC door mat that didn't win a conference game last year and has them in contention for the SEC title IN HIS FIRST YEAR. This is Corch Al's third year, and we are getting worse the more we play.

UM fans should be sour after last Saturday's total tank job. Let them shout from the mountain.

Apples and Oranges. Auburn's been raking in Top 10 recruiting classes for a half a decade. They are not talent deficient. People were saying the same thing about Brady Hoke IN HIS FIRST YEAR. Well.....dude is hot garbage now IN YEAR THREE. And yes....I'm sour too, just trying to look at that game with a little bit of perspective.

Give the guy his credit. He's completely turned that program around in one year in the toughest conference in FBS. When you don't give guys proper credit it cheapens the rest of the stuff you say. Their recruiting rankings probably aren't that much different than ours over the last several years.

Exactly. The previous poster is missing the key point. Which is that Maz has been able to install a scheme and managed/coached it well enough to turn that team around. He has a philosophy that works. Can a sh1tty QB render his scheme useless? Of course, but the team's turnaround deserves credit. They absolutely have stunk the past 2 years.

 

[Bigtip]

you can slice and dice the stats and look at AGs past all you want to spin the obvious:

THE DEFENSE SUCKS DONKEY **** AND IT IS ALL ON THE COACHES

 

[zone3cane]

I want to hear consingler aka Dorito apologist explain this

I posted already big man, it's not my fault you are illiterate.

bro you were in hiding after the VT fiasco b/c u and your compadres were slurping off Dorito like he's the 2nd coming off Nick Saban. Making every excuse in the world for him even saying that it's the offenses fault why the defense is struggling and the talent, anything but Dorito.

You made one stupid post after the other acting like anyone who was against Dorito was delusional while you just as easily put all the blame on the offense b/c James Coley isnt Goldens best friend.

Please note I am straight. I like how you got up and made this post before 6AM this morning. I appreciate how you think of me and I am sorry you think I was hiding.

Zone me and you will never agree. It has nothing to do with Coach D either. Move on and find someone else to think of.

I remember when someone ^^^ tried to act like i was crazy for saying that a terrible defense effects an offense. smh no wonder me and you will never agree. lol

now for the ppl w/ a clue on CIS....

Look at LSU except for this year..... they have had an elite defense even though their offense was average at best. Their offensive "handicaps" didnt prevent their defenses from being top 5-10 year in and out.

Same w/ Florida last year and this year, they've had a top 5-10 defense both years even though the offense has been flat out terrible.

Virginia Tech it's the same thing.... this year they have the 3rd ranked defense in the country w/ a 92 ranked offense. The offensive rankings moved up to 92 b/c they had a GOAT day against Miami.

Like i've said before a lack of defense effects an offense far greater then a lack of offense effects a defense and these examples could suggest that a lack of offense has no effect on a defense.

There are no excuses for Dorito except "since he's Al Golden's best friend, I will blindly support him."

 

[Consigliere]

I want to hear consingler aka Dorito apologist explain this

I posted already big man, it's not my fault you are illiterate.

bro you were in hiding after the VT fiasco b/c u and your compadres were slurping off Dorito like he's the 2nd coming off Nick Saban. Making every excuse in the world for him even saying that it's the offenses fault why the defense is struggling and the talent, anything but Dorito.

You made one stupid post after the other acting like anyone who was against Dorito was delusional while you just as easily put all the blame on the offense b/c James Coley isnt Goldens best friend.

Please note I am straight. I like how you got up and made this post before 6AM this morning. I appreciate how you think of me and I am sorry you think I was hiding.

Zone me and you will never agree. It has nothing to do with Coach D either. Move on and find someone else to think of.

I remember when someone ^^^ tried to act like i was crazy for saying that a terrible defense effects an offense. smh no wonder me and you will never agree. lol

now for the ppl w/ a clue on CIS....

Look at LSU except for this year..... they have had an elite defense even though their offense was average at best. Their offensive "handicaps" didnt prevent their defenses from being top 5-10 year in and out.

Same w/ Florida last year and this year, they've had a top 5-10 defense both years even though the offense has been flat out terrible.

Virginia Tech it's the same thing.... this year they have the 3rd ranked defense in the country w/ a 92 ranked offense. The offensive rankings moved up to 92 b/c they had a GOAT day against Miami.

Like i've said before a lack of defense effects an offense far greater then a lack of offense effects a defense and these examples suggest that a lack of offense has no effect on a defense.

Your ride is here.

 

[The Franchise]

Watch Auburn and ask yourself if they're getting better as a program in Gus's FIRST YEAR AS HC. You left that part out. It's his first year there, and he's taken the SEC door mat that didn't win a conference game last year and has them in contention for the SEC title IN HIS FIRST YEAR. This is Corch Al's third year, and we are getting worse the more we play.

UM fans should be sour after last Saturday's total tank job. Let them shout from the mountain.

Apples and Oranges. Auburn's been raking in Top 10 recruiting classes for a half a decade. They are not talent deficient. People were saying the same thing about Brady Hoke IN HIS FIRST YEAR. Well.....dude is hot garbage now IN YEAR THREE. And yes....I'm sour too, just trying to look at that game with a little bit of perspective.

Give the guy his credit. He's completely turned that program around in one year in the toughest conference in FBS. When you don't give guys proper credit it cheapens the rest of the stuff you say. Their recruiting rankings probably aren't that much different than ours over the last several years.

Exactly. The previous poster is missing the key point. Which is that Maz has been able to install a scheme and managed/coached it well enough to turn that team around. He has a philosophy that works. Can a sh1tty QB render his scheme useless? Of course, but the team's turnaround deserves credit. They absolutely have stunk the past 2 years.

Gus's area of expertise is offense. He's taken that **** offense, which I think was ranked in the 100s last year, and made them very respectable in his first year. Specifically, he's taken Auburn from 115th in total offense to 14th and from 112th in scoring offense to 17th. Again, he's done that in his first year.

Corch Al's area of expertise is supposed to be the defensive side of the ball. He inherited an average defense from Shanntard and turned it into the worst in the history of UM football in 3 years.

The facts speak for themselves. Expertise yields results. Corches don't.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Watch Auburn and ask yourself if they're getting better as a program in Gus's FIRST YEAR AS HC. You left that part out. It's his first year there, and he's taken the SEC door mat that didn't win a conference game last year and has them in contention for the SEC title IN HIS FIRST YEAR. This is Corch Al's third year, and we are getting worse the more we play.

UM fans should be sour after last Saturday's total tank job. Let them shout from the mountain.

Apples and Oranges. Auburn's been raking in Top 10 recruiting classes for a half a decade. They are not talent deficient. People were saying the same thing about Brady Hoke IN HIS FIRST YEAR. Well.....dude is hot garbage now IN YEAR THREE. And yes....I'm sour too, just trying to look at that game with a little bit of perspective.

Give the guy his credit. He's completely turned that program around in one year in the toughest conference in FBS. When you don't give guys proper credit it cheapens the rest of the stuff you say. Their recruiting rankings probably aren't that much different than ours over the last several years.

Exactly. The previous poster is missing the key point. Which is that Maz has been able to install a scheme and managed/coached it well enough to turn that team around. He has a philosophy that works. Can a sh1tty QB render his scheme useless? Of course, but the team's turnaround deserves credit. They absolutely have stunk the past 2 years.

Gus's area of expertise is offense. He's taken that **** offense, which I think was ranked in the 100s last year, and made them very respectable in his first year. Specifically, he's taken Auburn from 115th in total offense to 14th and from 112th in scoring offense to 17th. Again, he's done that in his first year.

Corch Al's area of expertise is supposed to be the defensive side of the ball. He inherited an average defense from Shanntard and turned it into the worst in the history of UM football in 3 years.

Expertise yields results. Corches don't.

The facts speak for themselves. He actually coached the 100th ranked offense his last year as offensive coordinator @ Auburn (2011) before moving on to Ark. St., I see you forgot that. That doesn't count.

Again....I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job this year or he isn't a good coach. You'll be proven wrong on Golden and the defense, IMO. It is absolutely attrocious right now. I get it.

http://www.statmilk.com/NCAAF/Rankings#

 

[The Franchise]

Apples and Oranges. Auburn's been raking in Top 10 recruiting classes for a half a decade. They are not talent deficient. People were saying the same thing about Brady Hoke IN HIS FIRST YEAR. Well.....dude is hot garbage now IN YEAR THREE. And yes....I'm sour too, just trying to look at that game with a little bit of perspective.

Give the guy his credit. He's completely turned that program around in one year in the toughest conference in FBS. When you don't give guys proper credit it cheapens the rest of the stuff you say. Their recruiting rankings probably aren't that much different than ours over the last several years.

Exactly. The previous poster is missing the key point. Which is that Maz has been able to install a scheme and managed/coached it well enough to turn that team around. He has a philosophy that works. Can a sh1tty QB render his scheme useless? Of course, but the team's turnaround deserves credit. They absolutely have stunk the past 2 years.

Gus's area of expertise is offense. He's taken that **** offense, which I think was ranked in the 100s last year, and made them very respectable in his first year. Specifically, he's taken Auburn from 115th in total offense to 14th and from 112th in scoring offense to 17th. Again, he's done that in his first year.

Corch Al's area of expertise is supposed to be the defensive side of the ball. He inherited an average defense from Shanntard and turned it into the worst in the history of UM football in 3 years.

Expertise yields results. Corches don't.

The facts speak for themselves. He actually coached the 100th ranked offense his last year as offensive coordinator @ Auburn (2011) before moving on to Ark. St., I see you forgot that. That doesn't count.

Again....I'm not saying he hasn't done a good job this year or he isn't a good coach. You'll be proven wrong on Golden and the defense, IMO. It is absolutely attrocious right now. I get it.

http://www.statmilk.com/NCAAF/Rankings#

He wasn't the HC then. I think the HC wanted to move to a more power-based offensive attack to emulate Bama. I'm talking apples to apples, which is HC to HC. Corch Al corched several really bad defenses as a DC. Gus had 1 down year as an OC interspersed with about 8 top ten offenses at various stops as an OC with Arkansas, Tulsa and Auburn.