Mike James and UTOUGH

well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic as gains were made during his tenure.

I don't know what to tell you, you either see it or you don't see it. We are not getting daily updates about their BMI/Weights/Strength Gains so we don't have much to go by other then limited data and our opinions.

Do you think Shannon and Golden have the same approach to ST?
 
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well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic.
no seriously, he was under shannon for a couple years. how do u measure what he gained vs what he did under golden? im going somewhere with this
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic.
no seriously, he was under shannon for a couple years. how do u measure what he gained vs what he did under golden? im going somewhere with this

Just go to your point already, I edited my post above.
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic as gains were made during his tenure.

I don't know what to tell you, you either see it or you don't see it. We are not getting daily updates about their BMI/Weights/Strength Gains so we don't have much to go by other then limited data and our opinions.

Do you think Shannon and Golden have the same approach to ST?

i rest my case
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic as gains were made during his tenure.

I don't know what to tell you, you either see it or you don't see it. We are not getting daily updates about their BMI/Weights/Strength Gains so we don't have much to go by other then limited data and our opinions.

Do you think Shannon and Golden have the same approach to ST?

i rest my case

Your case sucks. Your case said UTough has nothing to do with it. So you think it was all ShannonTough.

So in your opinion UTough had nothing to do with it?

Side note: You left out the data part.
 
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well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic as gains were made during his tenure.

I don't know what to tell you, you either see it or you don't see it. We are not getting daily updates about their BMI/Weights/Strength Gains so we don't have much to go by other then limited data and our opinions.

Do you think Shannon and Golden have the same approach to ST?

i rest my case

Your case sucks. Your case said UTough has nothing to do with it. So you think it was all ShannonTough.

So in your opinion UTough had nothing to do with it?

Side note: You left out the data part.

i've gotten my desired response out of you. good talk sir.
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

This is really stupid. So at least you concede (AGAIN) that is not just genetics and work ethic as gains were made during his tenure.

I don't know what to tell you, you either see it or you don't see it. We are not getting daily updates about their BMI/Weights/Strength Gains so we don't have much to go by other then limited data and our opinions.

Do you think Shannon and Golden have the same approach to ST?

i rest my case

Your case sucks. Your case said UTough has nothing to do with it. So you think it was all ShannonTough.

So in your opinion UTough had nothing to do with it?

Side note: You left out the data part.

i've gotten my desired response out of you. good talk sir.

I like this type of response, I have nothing to say so I am done. More like waste of time talk.
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?
:ibisroflmao:
I get your point and actually agree with it.
But ShannonTOUGH is the funniest **** I heard in awhile.
 
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Mike James was on the best Canes I have ever seen, he has the right attitude and a great TEAM player.
 
When his pro career is done I certainly would love to have him back at the U coaching up these kids. You gotta love guys like MJ, he raises the bar for the entire team.
 
ShannonTOUGH was known as Choppin Woodwerks FWIW.

MJ was just one of those special guys that didn't need to be held by the hand or kicked in the ***. Self motivated, self confident, head down/weights up ************.

Rare indeed.
 
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All you needed to say was that "you got up." We already know your *** was on the couch
 
well a couple of those years he was under ShannonTOUGH so how do u break down the gains made then and then the gains made up under Golden?

I agree with you as well Duval... The kid had the heart of a lion and the work ethic of a Spartan warrior... We can't just credit Utough for his combine success... The kid was working hard here and to be fair under Shannon all of our draft prospects did well at the combine... He may have failed as a coach but everything he did wasn't bad... Even the guys who left early last year shined at the combine... Forston had one of the better DT performances.... OV emerged as one of the better DE's...TB and Miller showed out during their workouts as well... Our guys usually do well... Although Utough is good for the players, I'm not going to credit Mike's performance to it... The kid came in as freshman working hard and remained consistent with it... It has little to do with Utough and more to do with Mike... I'm happy for the kid...
 
I think he would be a solid back for Denver as well. Fits the multiple back system Fox runs. Would love to see him running wild for Denver.
 
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