forums

Michael Wyche

Probably gotta drop 30 pounds.

If he can get down to 350, he should be in pretty good shape.

Cody played at 'Bama over 360 I think.
 
Advertisement
hoover437 said:
Cash said:
Jesus Christo.... Wyche isn't a pass rusher! If you think he is you'll be sorely disappointed. He's a run-stopper, gap stuffer, whatever the **** you want to call it. Can he collapse a pocket because of pure strength against d1 OL? That's what I want to know. I don't even think he'll be our best DT this year. You gents need to tempor expectations a bit.
Click to expand...

hold the line, take up space!!!
Click to expand...

Actually to answer your questions on what UM ask's its dline to do under Al Goldens defense here are two video's that should help you understand our scheme. An also why it is so hard to get most elite DT's that can also rush the passer from the inside position to come to Miami, because our scheme inherently negates their first step quickness advantage.

Wyche needs to get down to 330 lbs to be effective for an entire game. An for those referencing Terrance Cody playing at 350lbs, Nick Saban was ferious he was at that weight because Cody was ony able to play half the number of snaps tey needed from him. Now conder the type heat we have miami and Wyche is going to have serious problems maintaining that 6 second burst for 30 snaps a game unless he drops at least 40lbs in 2 months while maintaining his strength which will be difficult. Now being a Juco player I am going to guess he didn't have the access to a nutritionist and training table; if this is the case then with strict discipline the 40lbs will melt off him easily this summer with the last 15lbs coming off by the time UM heads to Nebraska.

This should be fine because he will have a very limited role against U of L since they will spread UM's defense out and a run up tempo style which will wear him out in 2 series.

[video=youtube_share;aLMiiwHxUv4]http://youtu.be/aLMiiwHxUv4[/video]

[video=youtube_share;WB2iZiijM3A]http://youtu.be/WB2iZiijM3A[/video]
 
The most important position on this D, and golden has done a **** job recruiting it... smh
 
Also in regards to Terrance Cody, he was the last player on Bama's defense that had weight issues. All the rest of Saban's NT's since then have been under 330lbs. That is the where Bama's differs from UGA and Tenn who used use massive NT 's in the 350+ lbs range, where as Bama wants more mobile but super strong NT's in order to be able to flow down the LOS.

An the more mobile super strong NT types are extremely hard to find even more so then just a Big NT, but Bama has refined it to a science which is why they rarely take JUCO's for the NT because it takes about 2 yrs of a really good S&C program along with good nutrition to get their bodies right. Because you want thick muscle mass rather than grizzle and this comes from a certain starting point, for instance Bama's NT come into college benching 400lbs. Which by their Soph yr has them benching close to 500lbs.

Where as at UM the only current dlinemen benching over 400 is Corey King and he barley sniff's the field because he doesn't utilize his functional strength when playing. Wyche on other hand when he gets into shape will be a beastly young man at the NT to pair along with Heurtlou (spelling). But they are gone in 2 years .

Go Canes
 
Last edited:
Advertisement
Paranos said:
hoover437 said:
Cash said:
Jesus Christo.... Wyche isn't a pass rusher! If you think he is you'll be sorely disappointed. He's a run-stopper, gap stuffer, whatever the **** you want to call it. Can he collapse a pocket because of pure strength against d1 OL? That's what I want to know. I don't even think he'll be our best DT this year. You gents need to tempor expectations a bit.
Click to expand...

hold the line, take up space!!!
Click to expand...

Actually to answer your questions on what UM ask's its dline to do under Al Goldens defense here are two video's that should help you understand our scheme. An also why it is so hard to get most elite DT's that can also rush the passer from the inside position to come to Miami, because our scheme inherently negates their first step quickness advantage.

Wyche needs to get down to 330 lbs to be effective for an entire game. An for those referencing Terrance Cody playing at 350lbs, Nick Saban was ferious he was at that weight because Cody was ony able to play half the number of snaps tey needed from him. Now conder the type heat we have miami and Wyche is going to have serious problems maintaining that 6 second burst for 30 snaps a game unless he drops at least 40lbs in 2 months while maintaining his strength which will be difficult. Now being a Juco player I am going to guess he didn't have the access to a nutritionist and training table; if this is the case then with strict discipline the 40lbs will melt off him easily this summer with the last 15lbs coming off by the time UM heads to Nebraska.

This should be fine because he will have a very limited role against U of L since they will spread UM's defense out and a run up tempo style which will wear him out in 2 series.

[video=youtube_share;aLMiiwHxUv4]http://youtu.be/aLMiiwHxUv4[/video]

[video=youtube_share;WB2iZiijM3A]http://youtu.be/WB2iZiijM3A[/video]
Click to expand...

Ummmmm ok... Thx? First off the dude isn't 350lbs lol. Secondly what UM asks a DL to do & what they are built for & good at may be two different things. I didn't need a lesson.
 
Last edited:
luke137 said:
DJWilliams55 said:
Even at 3-4 NT that is too much, cause he will tire too easily. And they will run no huddle to wear him out. Needs to somehow lose at least 40 pounds quick.
Click to expand...

One summer in SoFla heat and humidity and he will be at TE playing weight in no time!
Click to expand...

Exactly. One August in South Florida and this dude might emerge for that Lou-vul game as undersized. I'm pretty sure they didn't issue him one of those Kehoe special straw hats and lawn chairs. Not concerned.
 
I'm not sure why some of you guys think that the south florida heat alone is going to make someone lose weight and keep it off. If this kid doesn't eat right and do what he needs to do, he's going to be just like a number of guys before him that battled weight issues throughout their UM career.
 
Advertisement
He looked in good shape in the picture he posted with Jimmy Graham. Wasn't fat and wasn't sloppy. He and Huertolou will be huge improvements over what just left. Remember Luther Robinson was suppose to be a beast, threw up U at gayter camp, but was never ever average. As far as Jenkins and Moten, they are improvements over the prior DT, but still have to show us what they got. If King or Moore can give us some breakout play then we could be undefeated by time we get to FSU.
 
Gator Hatar said:
He looked in good shape in the picture he posted with Jimmy Graham. Wasn't fat and wasn't sloppy. He and Huertolou will be huge improvements over what just left. Remember Luther Robinson was suppose to be a beast, threw up U at gayter camp, but was never ever average. As far as Jenkins and Moten, they are improvements over the prior DT, but still have to show us what they got. If King or Moore can give us some breakout play then we could be undefeated by time we get to FSU.
Click to expand...

That was actually 2010 OT Tavadis Glenn from Jacksonville, he was teammates with Louis Nix ( oh what a beast). Fast forward to the end and that's where he does it , he s wearing maroon jersey and helmet.

[video=youtube_share;hMTl85mNsxc]http://youtu.be/hMTl85mNsxc[/video]
 
Last edited:
Paranos, what ever happened to Glenn? We had a chance to take him coming out of Juco. He still wanted to come here. But the staff never even took a second look. Did he ever make anything of himself?
 
Gator Hatar said:
He looked in good shape in the picture he posted with Jimmy Graham. Wasn't fat and wasn't sloppy. He and Huertolou will be huge improvements over what just left. Remember Luther Robinson was suppose to be a beast, threw up U at gayter camp, but was never ever average. As far as Jenkins and Moten, they are improvements over the prior DT, but still have to show us what they got. If King or Moore can give us some breakout play then we could be undefeated by time we get to FSU.
Click to expand...

Maybe Robinson and Porter would have been better in a different system. They both showed some talent. I think this is just not the system for them.
 
Advertisement
hoover437 said:
Gator Hatar said:
He looked in good shape in the picture he posted with Jimmy Graham. Wasn't fat and wasn't sloppy. He and Huertolou will be huge improvements over what just left. Remember Luther Robinson was suppose to be a beast, threw up U at gayter camp, but was never ever average. As far as Jenkins and Moten, they are improvements over the prior DT, but still have to show us what they got. If King or Moore can give us some breakout play then we could be undefeated by time we get to FSU.
Click to expand...

Maybe Robinson and Porter would have been better in a different system. They both showed some talent. I think this is just not the system for them.
Click to expand...

They absolutely would have been better in a 1 gap pressure system, but that is not AG runs unfortunately. Both of them thrived under shannon's system because it was the same style of defense they had played for years high school.

The system is the reason high profile DT's don't want to come to UM to become glorified blockers, this is also why all of Bama's NT/DT's for the last several years have been 3* to 0* prospects that just simply fit Bama's system. Trust me when I tell you that bama scours the southeast looking for them, I am talking little 1 stop light towns that play 30 man football. Then they recruit the **** out of these kids giving them the type of attention they couldn't dream of, also nick saban personally take a major role in recruiting a NT they want.

Here is an article as an example of the type of player and how saban does it. ( FYI Darrius was a 3* also)
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1650842-alabama-picks-up-first-2014-d-lineman-commitment-in-320-pound-oj-smith

Here is video analysis of OJ Smith by a Bama Site, an the funny thing is if this kid came to UM we would be talking about as program changer, while at bama they are talking about him as a JAG that needs to redshirt who could eat himself into being cut in a few years. What a difference in programs and I am praying Wyche can live up to the hype.

http://video.tuscaloosanews.com/video/3286534598001#gsc.tab=0

Go Canes
 
Last edited:
Advertisement
I saw him on campus the other day. He is a BIG dude...definitely will need to drop some weight but in the end all that matters is whether he can play.
 
Advertisement
Back
Top