Miami up to 13th in AP Poll; Still 14th in Coaches

[Consigliere]

And IMO preseason rankings should be in place and are right majority of time

That's a dumb statement and you should feel bad for making it. There's literally nothing that supports that statement whatsoever. You know who were the last two preseason #1's? Southern California and Oklahoma.

The bigger issue, because you will never get rid of pre-season rankings, is that these AP voters refuse to be fluid with the rankings. It is early, it makes sense that a team ranked 8th and loses can move out of the top 25. Also, a team that is non-ranked that has early success should move into the rankings with ease. Instead we're left with this easter egg butt funk-a-thon where a team can stay in the top 10 with zero quality wins and only a quality loss.

These voters have ZERO accountability, so this is what you have a system of being too proud and refusing to acknowledge change.

They jumped us over South Carolina this week. An SEC team. That won.

That's being fluid, IMO.

Just win. We beat FSU on the road, and are still undefeated, then we can see where we are and if it's worth complaining about. In guarantee you teams like Louisville, even if they keep winning, will get jumped by better teams that rack up stronger victories.

Fluid is what happened to Michigan.

Here is there season. They start at 17 and beat the number 11 team Notre Dame. They almost lost to Akron and the Conn (yet thet they won both games) and moved to 19. They currently sit at 5-0 after beating team seizure and are ranked 18.

The SEC is not fluid, moving one position is not fluid.

This is the topic of the tread so this is what we're discussing the AP polls.

 

[Jedi Master Cane]

We're #14, but 4 of the teams in front of us have a loss. If this was closer to the end of the season the voters would move us ahead of those 1 loss teams. Stop worrying about them.

So in reality, we're #10. Louisville and OSU are ahead of us but their SOS is so weak that they won't control their own destiny. Do the math...that leaves really only 6 teams that will stand between us and the #2 spot which gets you into the big dance.

If we win out...there won't be anything to worry about. Winning out will mean we will have beaten a top 10 FSU team on the road as well as a top 5 Clemson team on neutral ground in the conference championship. Our computer ranking should be pretty **** high at that point.

 

[Consigliere]

We're #14, but 4 of the teams in front of us have a loss. If this was closer to the end of the season the voters would move us ahead of those 1 loss teams. Stop worrying about them.

So in reality, we're #10. Louisville and OSU are ahead of us but their SOS is so weak that they won't control their own destiny. Do the math...that leaves really only 6 teams that will stand between us and the #2 spot which gets you into the big dance.

If we win out...there won't be anything to worry about. Winning out will mean we will have beaten a top 10 FSU team on the road as well as a top 5 Clemson team on neutral ground in the conference championship. Our computer ranking should be pretty **** high at that point.

I will speak for myself, I am not concerned with our ranking now. I am discussing my issues with these polls in general.

 

[PharmCane305]

And IMO preseason rankings should be in place and are right majority of time

That's a dumb statement and you should feel bad for making it. There's literally nothing that supports that statement whatsoever. You know who were the last two preseason #1's? Southern California and Oklahoma.

The only fans that whine about preseason rankings are fans of teams that haven't done much. I honestly don't see the problem rewarding teams for last years performance through preseason rankings. The majority of team comes back, most of the time the coaching staff remains intact.

If we do real well this year and are preseason top 5 NO ONE will be moaning about preseason rankings.

You are a little clueless aren't you?
Preseason rankings are not supposed to reward teams for what they did last year.
That's what the final rankings are for.

Preseason rankings are exactly what they are: throws at a dart board from 30 feet away. They are uneducated guesses.
Uneducated because nobody has played yet.
Look at Southern Cal and Notre Dame last year and tell me how accurate those preseason rankings are.
The BCS rankings is the only one that matters, and thankfully the coaches poll, is only a small component of that average.

How is going off of last year a complete uneducated guess?

You point out two teams but what about all of the other teams?

2011 Preseason to Postseason AP rankings lets go by the top 15: 10 of the top 15 teams that were preseason top 15 finished in the top 15...PURE UNEDUCATED GUESS HUH?
2012 Preseason to Postseason AP rankings lets go by the top 15: 8 of the top 15 teams that were preseason top 15 finished in the top 15...Over 50%...another UNEDUCATED GUESS?

Yeah i'm a little clueless

I never said preseason rankings are 100% accurate or they are right but to say they are complete uneducated guesses is silly.

 

[motorcitycane]

I'll be at the UGA-Mizzou game Saturday. Should be interesting. Anyone know anything about Missouri? I had no idea they were undefeated until I saw they cracked the Top 25.

Mizzou is nice. I thought they would shock the SEC like TAMU did last season bringing the spread to the SEC. The problem for them was that QB James Franklin played the season hurt. Look at his 2011 numbers he's a good QB and RB Henry Josey is a monster. All of the Mizzou WR's are 6-4+ The defense is suspect.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Bama looks extremely touchable this season.

 

[hasena75]

I think Oregon might be the best team in the country this year

 

[TheU1984]

Oregon does whatever they want. I don't think they are going to have the yearly late-year loss this year.

 

[The Franchise]

Holy ****, that sec nut juice is strong. We would absolutely wipe our asses with South Carolina's faces. Unreal the power of the sec brainwashing. The latest media trend in eating sec *** now that their defenses suck is that they have the best QBs in college football. Eddie George actually claimed that the sec has a better group of QBs than the rest of FBS teams combined. And he was serious.

 

[407cane]

We're #14, but 4 of the teams in front of us have a loss. If this was closer to the end of the season the voters would move us ahead of those 1 loss teams. Stop worrying about them.

So in reality, we're #10. Louisville and OSU are ahead of us but their SOS is so weak that they won't control their own destiny. Do the math...that leaves really only 6 teams that will stand between us and the #2 spot which gets you into the big dance.

If we win out...there won't be anything to worry about. Winning out will mean we will have beaten a top 10 FSU team on the road as well as a top 5 Clemson team on neutral ground in the conference championship. Our computer ranking should be pretty **** high at that point.

I will speak for myself, I am not concerned with our ranking now. I am discussing my issues with these polls in general.

agreed. people are confusing our point of the thread. everything is fine with us being 13 at the moment. The ranking system itself along with pre ranking bias has the whole system flawed

 

[The Franchise]

I think Oregon might be the best team in the country this year

Oregon would run through Alabama like some bad Taco Bell. Saban would be crying about the tempo of the game being too fast halfway through the first quarter.

 

[SmokeyRone]

Oregon does whatever they want. I don't think they are going to have the yearly late-year loss this year.

Half *** team, small, slow and the sweep is their bread and butter play.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Oregon does whatever they want. I don't think they are going to have the yearly late-year loss this year.

Half *** team, small, slow and the sweep is their bread and butter play.

Wait wha?

 

[NVA CANE]

Holy ****, that sec nut juice is strong. We would absolutely wipe our asses with South Carolina's faces. Unreal the power of the sec brainwashing. The latest media trend in eating sec *** now that their defenses suck is that they have the best QBs in college football. Eddie George actually claimed that the sec has a better group of QBs than the rest of FBS teams combined. And he was serious.

aTm and USCe should not be in the top 15. I won't argue UGA and LSU. But the first two teams are a joke. Now that offenses are exploiting those "vaunted" sec defenses it's all about offense for them and the media. Oregon, Stanford and Clemson could beat any team in the sec this year. Easily the best three teams in the country IMO. Sec ain't **** this year yet the pollsters will keep propping them up by keeping them ranked high. Fact is only bama and uga should be in the top ten from the sec.

 

[rmcid]

You guys are forgetting that these SEC teams are putting up points against SEC defenses. Every week we are seeing them put up 38 or 45 or even more. That is really impressive. I understand from the media that these defenses usually give up zero points. Big exception is on Saturdays, but remember, a lot of Saturdays they are playing SEC offenses so you can't really get too upset with them. In short, the rankings make perfect sense to me.

 

[itsacanething]

Holy ****, that sec nut juice is strong. We would absolutely wipe our asses with South Carolina's faces. Unreal the power of the sec brainwashing. The latest media trend in eating sec *** now that their defenses suck is that they have the best QBs in college football. Eddie George actually claimed that the sec has a better group of QBs than the rest of FBS teams combined. And he was serious.

its like the stock market. clearly the SEC is overvalued based on the last few years. the ACC is coming with three top 10 caliber teams and a 4th, va tech that looks just a tad off their normal quality. The ACC is the worst nightmare for these SEC teams because we have the same type of players.

 

[valid]

There will be alot of shake up over the next two weeks. We just need to take care of business against UNC, and then sit back and watch the fireworks. We have no business losing to a team like UNC that got manhandled by the likes of ECU.

 

[Bigtip]

the only one I had a real big problem with was USCe. now that we jumped them, I'm ok with it

I would LOVE to play UGAy or L$U in a bowl game and beat their asses

 

[nycane]

how is fsu behind georgia and lousiville???

 

[Jonnyblaze]

how is fsu behind georgia and lousiville???

Because that's where they started in the preseason polls. Unless you have a victory over a team ranked much higher, or a loss to a much lower rated opponent, your preseason ranking is the biggest factor in your current ranking.