Miami-Dade commissioners sound gung-ho about Soccer stadium

[jwcane97]

If you are going to move into a better stadium than No-Life, does it matter 40k, or 50k? just give me a nice stadium closer to campus and I don't give a crap.

 

[Gamineal]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and bring 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

 

[Notsince1985]

If it's for 20,000 people it will be too small. But if they could get it up to 50,000 then they need to make this happen. Then when the soccer team leaves Miami, the Canes can take over. lol

50,000? Why? So ESPN can show the 30,000 empty seats first home game? Fan Support for this team is pathetic.

I get what you're saying but I can't see how they would put the Canes in a 25,000 seat stadium. Personally, I think they should have a 35,000 seat stadium that is close enough for the students to be close enough to get excited about. It's hard to blame the fan support right now. The stadium is 22 miles away from the school. It's beyond ridiculous.

STFU about the stadium being too far from campus already.

There are less than 5,000 students that live on campus and a large number of them already go to the games. People like you that regurgitate the the same stupid argument over and over again have no f'n clue. Did you go to school there? I did, and I walked to the metrorail, rode the metrorail, then took a bus to the OB. If students want to go they will. It has nothing to do with proximity to the campus.

We averaged 50k+ in ticket sales this year. Do you think UM is going to give up that revenue?

No team in Miami fills a stadium unless its a winner and its a good game. Ever look at the actual Heat attendance when they play the Milwaukee Bucks?

stop. we need no more than a 42 to 48 k stadium. anythng larger is ridiculous. move the FSU game sun life every other year and be done with it.

No, it's not. 42,000 is a joke. If we get back to where we want to be that's too small. That's assuming we never get back to where we were in the past, or close to it.

Games with higher than 50,000 in attendance against teams not named FSU or Florida since 1990 (bolded games are against ranked teams):

1990
Iowa-70,000
Kansas-54,000
Pitt-50,000
BC-51,000
Syracuse-66,000

1991
Houston-71,000
Penn State-75,000
West Virginia-60,000
San Diego State-57,000

1992
FAMU-74,000
West Virginia 51,000

1993
Virginia Tech-55,000
Syracuse-63,000
Rutgers-52,000

1994
Georgia Southern-54,000
Washington-62,000
Virginia Tech-50,000
Pitt-50,000
BC-60,000

1995
FAMU-57,000

1999
FAMU-57,000
Penn State-74,000

2000
Virginia Tech-77,000
BC-50,000

2001
Syracuse-53,000
Washington-78,000

2002
FAMU-68,000
BC-73,000
UConn-52,000
Pitt-65,000
Virginia Tech-76,000

2003
East Carolina-65,000
West Virginia-54,000
Temple-50,000
Tennessee-70,000

2004
Louisiana Tech-54,000
Louisville-64,000
Clemson-55,000
Virginia Tech 62,000

2005
Colorado-51,000
USF-58,000
GT-53,000

2006
FIU-51,000

2007
GT-52,000
UVA-62,000

2009
Oklahoma-62,000

2010
FAMU-53,000
Maryland-55,000

2011
Ohio State-65,000
Duke-62,000

2012
UNC-59,000

2013
FAU-50,000
Wake-66,000
VT-50,000

 

[Notsince1985]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and bring 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

When we're good, we can get more. I know BC didn't bring 25,000 fans in 2002, or ECU 20,000 in 2003 for example. See my post above with attendance numbers. And, yes, I realize some of the recent numbers are tickets sold or distributed. Either way, if we ever have our own stadium or share a soccer stadium, I think 55,000 is the minimum. Anything else is way too small for the program we want to be. Trust me, schools will negative recruit against us using stadium size, just like they already do with actual attendance. 45,000 or smaller cries out MAC or C-USA school, even if our attendance sucks.

 

[ramcanes]

UM administration and BOT needs to work with county and Beckham's group to move to the new stadium. It's our last chance to fix our situation. The stadium is closer to campus. Students take a short Metrorail/Metromover 10 minute ride.to area of stadium. A compact 48k stadium(Oregon Ducks) or 50K Stanford stadium will bring a much better atmosphere, greater season ticket sales and prices.

 

[Dandycane]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and brin g 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

When we're good, we can get more. I know BC didn't bring 25,000 fans in 2002, or ECU 20,000 in 2003 for example. See my post above with attendance numbers. And, yes, I realize some of the recent numbers are tickets sold or distributed. Either way, if we ever have our own stadium or share a soccer stadium, I think 55,000 is the minimum. Anything else is way too small for the program we want to be. Trust me, schools will negative recruit against us using stadium size, just like they already do with actual attendance. 45,000 or smaller cries out MAC or C-USA school, even if our attendance sucks.

nonsense. vandy, wake forest etc...and countless other D1 programs have small staduims that feel big when they are filled. at most most these small stadiums you are right on top of the field....its awesome. reward the season ticket holders and students and if any one else cares to show up, great. big games, move it to the pro stadium. A small, packed stadium is a billion time better gameday experience than the gameday travesty at sun life.

 

[sstcane]

This year the numbers may be off because of the Florida game. I think a lot of people bought seasons tickets just for that game.
And I'm talking about Florida fans, not just Canes fans. Then they didn't show up for any other games. The tickets were "sold"
but 10+ k weren't at the game.

 

[Ned_Zawalski]

nonsense. vandy, wake forest etc...and countless other D1 programs have small staduims that feel big when they are filled. at most most these small stadiums you are right on top of the field....its awesome. reward the season ticket holders and students and if any one else cares to show up, great. big games, move it to the pro stadium. A small, packed stadium is a billion time better gameday experience than the gameday travesty at sun life.

Not to mention, the smaller capacity leads to a sense of urgency to buy tickets. Fans are under no pressure to buy season tickets now because they know there will be 35,000 tickets available either through UM or StubHub for any single game. Limit the capacity to 45-50K, with 5,000 of those going to the opponent, now all of a sudden people realize that they need to get tickets or they might be shut out.

 

[GoldenShowertheGators]

I said a few weeks ago, I'll say it again. This is a tremendous opportunity that's fallen on the city's lap and Shalala better be all over this.

50,000 max is more than enough. Absolutely. Built right it will sound much better than 76,000 at SunLife. I am very hopeful but if beckham is set on a replica of a British stadium, no chance he is ok with a stadium that can convert to football. Those stadiums are basically just the soccer pitch with the first row sitting at ground level and no sideline space as their team bench is in the first couple rows of a section. To adjust for football the stadium would lose that essence.

Here's to hoping there's a magical configuration possible.

 

[Notsince1985]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and brin g 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

When we're good, we can get more. I know BC didn't bring 25,000 fans in 2002, or ECU 20,000 in 2003 for example. See my post above with attendance numbers. And, yes, I realize some of the recent numbers are tickets sold or distributed. Either way, if we ever have our own stadium or share a soccer stadium, I think 55,000 is the minimum. Anything else is way too small for the program we want to be. Trust me, schools will negative recruit against us using stadium size, just like they already do with actual attendance. 45,000 or smaller cries out MAC or C-USA school, even if our attendance sucks.

nonsense. vandy, wake forest etc...and countless other D1 programs have small staduims that feel big when they are filled. at most most these small stadiums you are right on top of the field....its awesome. reward the season ticket holders and students and if any one else cares to show up, great. big games, move it to the pro stadium. A small, packed stadium is a billion time better gameday experience than the gameday travesty at sun life.

Wake and Vandy do not feel big when they are filled. Is that a joke? Wake's stadium seats 33,000 first of all, and that stadium is a glorified high school stadium. Vandy is at 42,000, and it has no atmosphere and no big time feel, even when full. I'm not saying we need a 70,000 seat stadium, I'm saying it should be around 55,000, because in the past we've shown, when winning, we usually can fill more than 40,000 seats. If we don't 40,000 fans in a 55,000 seat stadium doesn't look that bad. No harm, no foul. A 42,000 seat stadium is small time.

 

[canesproponent]

MLS will not approve a stadium bigger than $28,000. Period. In Atlanta, MLS is forcing the Falcons to install shields that will hide 50,000 from view. The Seattle SOunders install screens that display advertisements over 30,000 seats. Vancouver also had to pay for a screen that hides all seats in excess of 27,000.

They could build a 45,000 person stadium, BUT someone is going to have to pay for these screens and the doubling of the stadium. If UM can raise $100,000,000 it may feasible.

 

[Gi0logy]

MLS will not approve a stadium bigger than $28,000. Period. In Atlanta, MLS is forcing the Falcons to install shields that will hide 50,000 from view. The Seattle SOunders install screens that display advertisements over 30,000 seats. Vancouver also had to pay for a screen that hides all seats in excess of 27,000.

They could build a 45,000 person stadium, BUT someone is going to have to pay for these screens and the doubling of the stadium. If UM can raise $100,000,000 it may feasible.

My point exactly. MLS just won't let this happen (mostly for ego reasons).

 

[DeadPoets]

Here's the key part from the linked article for all you lazy mofos

James said Friday he is interested in the idea of moving to a stadium built in Miami by a group led by David Beckham.

“We would be interested in exploring any opportunity that makes sense for the program,” James said as the Hurricanes warmed up at Heinz Field before playing Pittsburgh.

To be clear, UM moving to such a stadium is a scenario that is far from reality.

Beckham, the now-retired international soccer star, recently asked the City of Miami to consider allowing his group to build a soccer stadium at PortMiami, a site off the downtown coast. The city has yet to approve the venture and Major League Soccer has yet to give an expansion franchise to Miami.

What the potential stadium could look like is unclear; the Daily Mail (U.K.) reported this week Beckham envisioned a 75,000-seat stadium, while the Miami Herald reported PortMiami had enough space for a building of around 25,000 seats.

Then there are the hurdles UM must clear. The school is five years into a 25-year lease it signed at Sun Life Stadium. Breaking that lease would create a significant legal battle. Also, UM likely would not wish to play in a facility of only 25,000 seats. UM’s average attendance at Sun Life this year is 53,785, its highest total since moving to Sun Life Stadium in 2008.

James said UM officials have not spoken to Beckham’s camp.

Lol @ 25 year contract. Fvckin stupid.

 

[Gamineal]

Here's the key part from the linked article for all you lazy mofos

James said Friday he is interested in the idea of moving to a stadium built in Miami by a group led by David Beckham.

“We would be interested in exploring any opportunity that makes sense for the program,” James said as the Hurricanes warmed up at Heinz Field before playing Pittsburgh.

To be clear, UM moving to such a stadium is a scenario that is far from reality.

Beckham, the now-retired international soccer star, recently asked the City of Miami to consider allowing his group to build a soccer stadium at PortMiami, a site off the downtown coast. The city has yet to approve the venture and Major League Soccer has yet to give an expansion franchise to Miami.

What the potential stadium could look like is unclear; the Daily Mail (U.K.) reported this week Beckham envisioned a 75,000-seat stadium, while the Miami Herald reported PortMiami had enough space for a building of around 25,000 seats.

Then there are the hurdles UM must clear. The school is five years into a 25-year lease it signed at Sun Life Stadium. Breaking that lease would create a significant legal battle. Also, UM likely would not wish to play in a facility of only 25,000 seats. UM’s average attendance at Sun Life this year is 53,785, its highest total since moving to Sun Life Stadium in 2008.

James said UM officials have not spoken to Beckham’s camp.

Lol @ 25 year contract. Fvckin stupid.

hey hey hey....none of that, the lady prez just had us skate from NCAA death penalty....

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

Here's the key part from the linked article for all you lazy mofos

James said Friday he is interested in the idea of moving to a stadium built in Miami by a group led by David Beckham.

“We would be interested in exploring any opportunity that makes sense for the program,” James said as the Hurricanes warmed up at Heinz Field before playing Pittsburgh.

To be clear, UM moving to such a stadium is a scenario that is far from reality.

Beckham, the now-retired international soccer star, recently asked the City of Miami to consider allowing his group to build a soccer stadium at PortMiami, a site off the downtown coast. The city has yet to approve the venture and Major League Soccer has yet to give an expansion franchise to Miami.

What the potential stadium could look like is unclear; the Daily Mail (U.K.) reported this week Beckham envisioned a 75,000-seat stadium, while the Miami Herald reported PortMiami had enough space for a building of around 25,000 seats.

Then there are the hurdles UM must clear. The school is five years into a 25-year lease it signed at Sun Life Stadium. Breaking that lease would create a significant legal battle. Also, UM likely would not wish to play in a facility of only 25,000 seats. UM’s average attendance at Sun Life this year is 53,785, its highest total since moving to Sun Life Stadium in 2008.

James said UM officials have not spoken to Beckham’s camp.

Lol @ 25 year contract. Fvckin stupid.

I know, it sucks, right?! I mean, how dare Shalala and UM make a deal that nets UM a ****-ton more money than the OB ever did. How dare she set UM up in good fiscal position for the long-term future of the program. ******* stupid indeed!

 

[Dandycane]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and brin g 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

When we're good, we can get more. I know BC didn't bring 25,000 fans in 2002, or ECU 20,000 in 2003 for example. See my post above with attendance numbers. And, yes, I realize some of the recent numbers are tickets sold or distributed. Either way, if we ever have our own stadium or share a soccer stadium, I think 55,000 is the minimum. Anything else is way too small for the program we want to be. Trust me, schools will negative recruit against us using stadium size, just like they already do with actual attendance. 45,000 or smaller cries out MAC or C-USA school, even if our attendance sucks.

nonsense. vandy, wake forest etc...and countless other D1 programs have small staduims that feel big when they are filled. at most most these small stadiums you are right on top of the field....its awesome. reward the season ticket holders and students and if any one else cares to show up, great. big games, move it to the pro stadium. A small, packed stadium is a billion time better gameday experience than the gameday travesty at sun life.

Wake and Vandy do not feel big when they are filled. Is that a joke? Wake's stadium seats 33,000 first of all, and that stadium is a glorified high school stadium. Vandy is at 42,000, and it has no atmosphere and no big time feel, even when full. I'm not saying we need a 70,000 seat stadium, I'm saying it should be around 55,000, because in the past we've shown, when winning, we usually can fill more than 40,000 seats. If we don't 40,000 fans in a 55,000 seat stadium doesn't look that bad. No harm, no foul. A 42,000 seat stadium is small time.

Vandy never had a team worthy of showing up for....until lately. When that stadium is filled, as vs Mississippi this year, it blows away anything Miami can deliver at SunLife. You are on the field.....it is fantastic. Wake, during their ACC run....that stadium was a blast and again, blows anything Miami can deliver away for atmosphere.

Bottom line, you have to deliver a decent product, but there is no comparison between small filled stadiums and the disaster of Sun Life.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and brin g 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

When we're good, we can get more. I know BC didn't bring 25,000 fans in 2002, or ECU 20,000 in 2003 for example. See my post above with attendance numbers. And, yes, I realize some of the recent numbers are tickets sold or distributed. Either way, if we ever have our own stadium or share a soccer stadium, I think 55,000 is the minimum. Anything else is way too small for the program we want to be. Trust me, schools will negative recruit against us using stadium size, just like they already do with actual attendance. 45,000 or smaller cries out MAC or C-USA school, even if our attendance sucks.

nonsense. vandy, wake forest etc...and countless other D1 programs have small staduims that feel big when they are filled. at most most these small stadiums you are right on top of the field....its awesome. reward the season ticket holders and students and if any one else cares to show up, great. big games, move it to the pro stadium. A small, packed stadium is a billion time better gameday experience than the gameday travesty at sun life.

Wake and Vandy do not feel big when they are filled. Is that a joke? Wake's stadium seats 33,000 first of all, and that stadium is a glorified high school stadium. Vandy is at 42,000, and it has no atmosphere and no big time feel, even when full. I'm not saying we need a 70,000 seat stadium, I'm saying it should be around 55,000, because in the past we've shown, when winning, we usually can fill more than 40,000 seats. If we don't 40,000 fans in a 55,000 seat stadium doesn't look that bad. No harm, no foul. A 42,000 seat stadium is small time.

Vandy never had a team worthy of showing up for....until lately. When that stadium is filled, as vs Mississippi this year, it blows away anything Miami can deliver at SunLife. You are on the field.....it is fantastic. Wake, during their ACC run....that stadium was a blast and again, blows anything Miami can deliver away for atmosphere.

Bottom line, you have to deliver a decent product, but there is no comparison between small filled stadiums and the disaster of Sun Life.

I don't doubt that the atmosphere in a small stadium can be better than what we currently have at Sun Life.

IMO, the issue is that we need a stadium of a size and quality that is indicative of our place in the CFB world. Wake is a tiny school, about 1/4 the size of UM, and has no CFB history whatsoever. They can get by with an erector set stadium of 31k. Even in the best of years, they may sell out a couple games but not all of them. And Vandy is significantly smaller than UM too, and lacks any football history; they too can get by with a tiny stadium.

UM needs a stadium substantially larger than those 2. As was pointed out in an earlier post, about half our home games each year get 50k or better in attendance; the other half are between 35 and 50k. A 50k stadium would put us on par with programs like Stanford and Baylor.

 

[Hurracanes]

So fans want Miami to continue its mitakes and move into someone's else stadium that isn't built for College Football? Makes sense.

 

[CaneInHeelCountry]

So fans want Miami to continue its mitakes and move into someone's else stadium that isn't built for College Football? Makes sense.

You have a better option? Please do share; I'll hang up and listen.

 

[BigCaneAl]

This years attendance was due to UF fan base buying over 15K in season tickets.....so every game that had 40K in it was announced at 63K.....I was at the Wake game where there was maybe 35K fans att was announced at 66K...we all laughed...

we are a 45K base...always will be always....the only reason we go over that is good teams come to town and bring 25 or 30K like Uf or FSU or OSU....

You have to a moron to think there were only 35k fans at the Wake game. There were 50+ easily. I mean, sorry, I know we are only allowed to bash the attendance here, but that's stupid.