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Mel Tucker is a Corch [Suspended after investigation...now fired]

My2Sense said:
Once upon a time, I would have agreed with you. But I don't think the old notions of "traditional" or "glass ceilings" apply anymore.

Just look at the CFP playoffs - yeah, we think of Michigan as a Traditional Powerhouse - but in fact, they've only won one NC in the last 70 years (contested in 1997). And Georgia hasn't won one since 1980. Meanwhile, G5 Cincy has snuck in (I do expect Saban will absolutely murder them though I hope I'm wrong).

And the vaunted Notre Dame Irish haven't had a Natty since 1988.

Meanwhile, programs like Clemson who had no historic success have dominated the ACC the better part of the last decade and schools like Texas A&M, Oregon, and Mich. St are all taking their shots.

I have no idea whether Tucker will lead MSU to a ship. Odds are he won't. But I also think the moment in college football has arrived where any program from any part of the country - with the right recruiting, coaching, and institutional support - CAN reach the top of the mountain.

I'm guessing that's the bet that the MSU admin was willing to make when they gave Tucker that contract and it's the same bet that many schools across the country are making when they throw out $100M contracts to HCs - most of whom who have yet to win anything.
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Clemson has a vacated 'ship from the early 89s.
 
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Tad Footeball said:
I forgot to mention that "Dooz" at Pitt is a corch too. A Danny Miaz (mis)led Canes team beats both of those teams last night.

That said, I'll show myself out. Congrats to Mel. I'll revisit this again next year after Sparty's 4th or 5th loss. I'd say the same about Pitt but I have no idea who their OC will be and if "Dooz" somehow lucked into anything with an obviously *****-whipped Kedon Slovis.
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So not only did your whole, entire OP not age well, at all, but you also throw a parting shot at Tucker by implying that Narduzzi is a coRch, LOL.

Embarassing.
 
CaneSince4Ever said:
So not only did your whole, entire OP not age well, at all, but you also throw a parting shot at Tucker by implying that Narduzzi is a coRch, LOL.

Embarassing.
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My good man.....this is where you err.

A) I didn't imply but flat out said that Ol' Dooz is a corch too.

B) As a clinically diagnosed psychopath I'm not capable of feeling this "embarrassment" that you speak of.

Again, I'll be happy to revisit this again next year. Truth be told, I wouldn't even mind taking the L on this as Sparty is a less annoying Big Ten team to me than the likes of OSU, Pedo State or Meeechigan. But they're going to come crashing back to Earth after losing Walker and the fluke-yness of this year doesn't continue.
 
Whether @Tad Footeball is right or wrong on Tucker being a corch is irrelevant in terms of some of these posts.

I’m familiar with his posting history, he’s not a racially motivated guy, and I’m 100% sure race had nothing to do with his opinion of Mel Tucker being a corch.

He’s criticized plenty of other guys and has no history of this.
 
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My2Sense said:
This guy disagrees:
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This is funny. Will love to see what Cincy does next szn..Fikell stays, they lose alllll that talent and experience..I think MSU will have another solid szn next year..not at all sure about Cincy..well see
 
swampcougar1 said:
Agree talent needed. According to cis the U has more talent than anyone in coastal since joining ACC. How many times have we won it? Coaching just as important if not more
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Cis is dead wrong about that. The best teams we had this past decade were 16/17..neither one were the most talented in the ACC those years
 
Empirical Cane said:
I'd say there has been an equal number of comments on Harbaugh, Smart, and now Riley getting paid, but not producing to the expectations.

Thinking that the above are overpaid and good for them can exist at same time right?

You know who are the OGs of this? Bobby Bonnilla and Willie T. Again, good for both of them for negotiating their deals.
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It's not about the money. You have people questioning his coaching ability of what he would be without certain players. I don't see that question applied to any othe coach. Saban would be nothing without all the 5-star talent on his teams, yet people questioning Tucker's ability with all his 3-star talent. Talent acquisition is part of the process. Ask Mario.
Like I said, people perpetuating stereotypes. Absurd.
 
Number1CanesFan said:
It's not about the money. You have people questioning his coaching ability of what he would be without certain players. I don't see that question applied to any othe coach. Saban would be nothing without all the 5-star talent on his teams, yet people questioning Tucker's ability with all his 3-star talent. Talent acquisition is part of the process. Ask Mario.
Like I said, people perpetuating stereotypes. Absurd.
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I feel confident the posts here on CIS are equal opportunity [insert any coach here]-is-a-loser-corch-with-without-players-bags-etc.
 
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Number1CanesFan said:
It's not about the money. You have people questioning his coaching ability of what he would be without certain players. I don't see that question applied to any othe coach. Saban would be nothing without all the 5-star talent on his teams, yet people questioning Tucker's ability with all his 3-star talent. Talent acquisition is part of the process. Ask Mario.
Like I said, people perpetuating stereotypes. Absurd.
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I literally just applied that question to Narduzzi in this thread and labeled him a weasel in the past and a corch without Pickett.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Whether @Tad Footeball is right or wrong on Tucker being a corch is irrelevant in terms of some of these posts.

I’m familiar with his posting history, he’s not a racially motivated guy, and I’m 100% sure race had nothing to do with his opinion of Mel Tucker being a corch.

He’s criticized plenty of other guys and has no history of this.
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Jesucristo. I must've skimmed over where people were implying anything about my "motivations" or the "honesty" of my assertion. Thanks for the vouching of character but I'd hope anyone that's been around here for even a limited amount of time would immediately realize that's a lazy and beyond baseless insinuation or accusation.
 
Tucker is stealing from a pathetic state and love it! Such a corch and all those that follow deserve!!

Will be fired in three years…book it
 
Choosing to bump this thread was like cheddar bob shooting himself in the movie 8-mile. :ROFLMAO:

Apparently everyone is a corch in CFB, except 2-3 HCs. When your own alma mater has been a POS, flaming dumpster, for the last 20 yrs, I can understand how someone can easily believe everyone else must also be in the same boat. Unfortunately, that's not the reality of the situation.

The market for HC salaries continues to be reset on an annual basis because of runaway inflation. Therefore it's not inconceivable to think that in a few yrs, Tucker will actually end up being underpaid, once the GOAT becomes the first 20mil per yr HC in the sport. Mich.St realized that its much better to be proactive in this situation, than passive. Up to this pt, both the contract extension & confidence they have shown Tucker has only been justified & validated.
 
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Hold My Beer said:
Upvoted your post, but maaaaan this bit here ...

gary coleman wtf GIF
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Boy was i wrong on the Michigan pick. Never thought they would lay an egg against UGA. 😒
 
apex_predator said:
Choosing to bump this thread was like cheddar bob shooting himself in the movie 8-mile. :ROFLMAO:

Apparently everyone is a corch in CFB, except 2-3 HCs. When your own alma mater has been a POS, flaming dumpster, for the last 20 yrs, I can understand how someone can easily think everyone else must also be in the same boat. Unfortunately, that's not the reality of the situation.

The market for HC salaries continues to be reset on an annual basis because of runaway inflation. Therefore it's not inconceivable to think that in a few yrs, Tucker will actually end up being underpaid, once the GOAT becomes the first 20mil per yr HC in the sport. Mich.St realized that its much better to be proactive in this situation, than passive. Up to this pt, the contract extension & confidence that Mich.St have shown Tucker has been justified & validated.
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Hard to believe but in just a few years 15 million will probably be the norm, so 20 is probably not that far away.

One thing is for sure, the top guys in college shlt on most NFL coaching salaries.
 
Some of you are continuing to make a mountain out of this hill. You are thinking about things in a different era. If the coaching carousel we witnessed this off season has taught you anything, it's that when you believe you have your man, you pay him, and, you don't do it for his current job you do it based on what you think someone will pay him for the next one
 
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OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Hard to believe but in just a few years 15 million will probably be the norm, so 20 is probably not that far away.

One thing is for sure, the top guys in college shlt on most NFL coaching salaries.
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They **** on NFL coaching salaries because there's no revenue sharing, & salary cap in CFB. The lion's share of revenue is being captured by only a select few teams. Those teams then in turn reinvest those earnings, and dictate the spending benchmarks for the entire sport. I wonder how long the NCAA thinks this is suppose to be sustainable for?
 
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