Manny "Savage" Diaz can't recruit and that is a problem

[TheEye]

The OP has a point. Jimbo had not coached a single game and was pulling in elite recruits. Won a title with elite talent. It is possible to convince 4 and 5 star commits before winning.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Dude there is photo evidence of our recruits getting moved down in rankings the day after committing to Miami. OP said Manny can’t recruit 4 star LB’s and this is a 4 star LB

yea but the experts know and will know by NSD especially here if its an elite class, guys like stef dmoney gogeta liberty I am missing more name sorry but we will know.

 

[fraggle]

The OP has a point. Jimbo had not coached a single game and was pulling in elite recruits. Won a title with elite talent. It is possible to convince 4 and 5 star commits before winning.

I think Jimbo is a fraud. His last year at fsu went 5-6 and left them in disarray while bailing to a huge contract at Texas A&M where he lost 4 games last year. I am sure fsu would've put Jimbo on the hot seat had he stayed but he got his pot of gold and I'd bet Texas A&M will roast him soon too.

 

[Flynell7]

“Dublin (Ga.) four-star defensive end Romello Height told 247Sports and InsideTheU on Monday that he has given a verbal pledge to Manny Diaz and The New Miami.

Height picked the Hurricanes over Tennessee, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, Auburn, Ole Miss, Missouri, Vanderbilt, Georiga Tech, USC and Virginia.”

247 says you’re an idiot

Alabama and Clemson wasn’t recruiting him so he sucks lol

 

[King Slayer]

Dude there is photo evidence of our recruits getting moved down in rankings the day after committing to Miami. OP said Manny can’t recruit 4 star LB’s and this is a 4 star LB

Alex Jones keep selling protein juice and get off the conspiracy ****

Miami Commit ranking changes since commitment date:

Don Chaney: up 22 spots
Jalen Rivers: Down 15 spots
Redding: down 63 spots
Van Dyke: has risen 205 spots
Fleming: up 28 spots
Moise: unranked when he committed now a 4 star
Francois: up 102 spots
K. Washington: dropped 70 spots
E. Roberts: up 15 spots
Mammarelli: unranked when he commited, then ranked supper high, then dropped over 300 spots
Riggings: ranked near a 5 star when he committed has now dropped over 400 spots due to injury
Branch: up 54 spots
Quentin Williams: up 77 spots
Alvin Mathis: down 300 spots
Corey Flagg: up 343 spots
Restrepo: down 132
Antonio Smith: unranked when he committed now a 3 star
Chris Washington: up 690 spots
Justin Hodges: down 335 spots

Theres no bias fellas. Over half our commits have gotten bumped. They have their reasons for dropping those who have gotten dropped. I spent 30 minutes on this so please lets shut the **** up about this before I kill myself.

 

[BrandCanes]

The OP has a point. Jimbo had not coached a single game and was pulling in elite recruits. Won a title with elite talent. It is possible to convince 4 and 5 star commits before winning.

A dumbass- we have a **** ton of 4 stars

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Alex Jones keep selling protein juice and get off the conspiracy ****

Yep it’s all conspiracy. Recruits usually from 60 spots when the season isn’t even in

 

[ItsAUThing.com]

I think Jimbo is a fraud. His last year at fsu went 5-6 and left them in disarray while bailing to a huge contract at Texas A&M where he lost 4 games last year. I am sure fsu would've put Jimbo on the hot seat had he stayed but he got his pot of gold and I'd bet Texas A&M will roast him soon too.

Jimbo runs a good offense and now he has Mike Elko running his defense; ex-Notre Dame DC who screamed on that leaked video about being sick and tired of Miami's turnover chain, before the Canes hung 41 on his sorry ***.

Tough to call a guy a "fraud" when he had six double-digit win seasons at Florida State in eight year. Won the ACC three times, the Division four times, runner up twice and had been dealing with Clemson as the division's elite for the past few years. Calling him a fraud because the wheels were off year eight—that's a stretch.

Fact it the culture at Florida State got toxic after that 2013 national championship and an ability to get back on top. After going 14-0—13-1, 10-3 and 10-3 aren't going to cut it as expectations were raised. Same thing happened in Gainesville after Meyer won two titles in three seasons and started backsliding post-Tebow.

Fisher is going to have more money, support and resources in College Station than he ever had in that one-horse Trailerhassee—even with all their dirty dealings to cover up for his players. Smart business move to get out when he did, as FSU was in bad shape. Better go somewhere new where you're desired as it buys him five years before there's any heat on him (not to mention the pay hike.)

All that to say, trying to get it done in the SEC is going to be a different ball game week in and week out (though getting through that Clemson roadblock in the Atlantic wasn't going to happen anytime soon. As fate would have it, aTm travels to Clemson the second week of the season this year.)

Clemson. Auburn. Alabama. Arkansas. Ole Miss. Mississippi State. South Carolina. Georgia. LSU.

Can't knock that schedule in the least—and going 9-3 during the regular season would be a miracle.

 

[TheEye]

I think Jimbo is a fraud. His last year at fsu went 5-6 and left them in disarray while bailing to a huge contract at Texas A&M where he lost 4 games last year. I am sure fsu would've put Jimbo on the hot seat had he stayed but he got his pot of gold and I'd bet Texas A&M will roast him soon too.

Urban did exactly what you describe. Jimbo recruited before winning. That's the point.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Urban did exactly what you describe. Jimbo recruited before winning. That's the point.

We’re in the top ten after a 7-6 season

 

[DBC]

We’re in the top ten after a 7-6 season

Don’t even pay attention to the village idiots.

 

[Coach Macho]

I spoke to the father of a high ranked recruit a few days ago and didn't like what I heard regarding our recruiting.

For a lack of better words it seems like amateur hour compared to the way other big programs recruit. There's a lack of detail with out recruiting.
I can't go into too much detail without exposing who the kid is, but everything he said made perfect sense. Look at our staff. Who the **** has ever recruited on a high level, at a big program?

Other schools have shown much more detail when recruiting this particular prospect, particularly Auburn, Georgia, Bama and Clemson. They had this kid's film completely broken down with notes (on paper). And they went over these notes with the recruit in person, telling them exactly what they like/dislike about their ability and where he fits into their scheme.

I'm told Miami isn't doing the little things to make kids feel wanted. And I ain't talking about bags. I won't even go there, cause I won't repeat what I was told regarding that. It's other things, man. Hospitality type ****. Even the way they facetime the kids and little stuff like that. The whole coaching staff playing catch with the prospects brothers and family members. Little things.

I was also told that their communication tailors off sometimes once they have a kid committed. (might explain some of the decommits)

This kid never felt wanted from Miami like he did from the other big time programs. And this particular kid loves The U.
That's a problem, no matter what way you slice it. Making them feel wanted/loved/etc is part of the process. That's your main **** job as a recruiter. LOL

Now I know some of you are gonna argue this, mostly cause you don't wanna hear it. But that's the point-of-view from someone who's involved in the process. It's a non-bias opinion from someone who has interacted with dozens of football staffs.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

I spoke to the father of a high ranked recruit a few days ago and didn't like what I heard regarding our recruiting.

For a lack of better words it seems like amateur hour compared to the way other big programs recruit. There's a lack of detail with out recruiting.
I can't go into too much detail without exposing who the kid is, but everything he said made perfect sense. Look at our staff. Who the **** has ever recruited on a high level, at a big program?

Other schools have shown much more detail when recruiting this particular prospect, particularly Auburn, Georgia, Bama and Clemson. They had this kid's film completely broken down with notes (on paper). And they went over these notes with the recruit in person, telling them exactly what they like/dislike about their ability and where he fits into their scheme.

I'm told Miami isn't doing the little things to make kids feel wanted. And I ain't talking about bags. I won't even go there, cause I won't repeat what I was told regarding that. It's other things, man. Hospitality type ****. Even the way they facetime the kids and little stuff like that. The whole coaching staff playing catch with the prospects brothers and family members. Little things.

I was also told that their communication tailors off sometimes once they have a kid committed. (might explain some of the decommits)

This kid never felt wanted from Miami like he did from the other big time programs. And this particular kid loves The U.
That's a problem, no matter what way you slice it. Making them feel wanted/loved/etc is part of the process. That's your main **** job as a recruiter. LOL

Now I know some of you are gonna argue this, mostly cause you don't wanna hear it. But that's the point-of-view from someone who's involved in the process. It's a non-bias opinion from someone who has interacted with dozens of football staffs.

Maybe they don’t want that particular kid?

 

[Coach Macho]

Maybe they don’t want that particular kid?

LOL Nah.
This is a kid everybody wants.

 

[BrandCanes]

N=1

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

N=1

Yeah, I second this.

It’s concerning, but still.

N=1

 

[MidnightCane]

I spoke to the father of a high ranked recruit a few days ago and didn't like what I heard regarding our recruiting.

For a lack of better words it seems like amateur hour compared to the way other big programs recruit. There's a lack of detail with out recruiting.
I can't go into too much detail without exposing who the kid is, but everything he said made perfect sense. Look at our staff. Who the **** has ever recruited on a high level, at a big program?

Other schools have shown much more detail when recruiting this particular prospect, particularly Auburn, Georgia, Bama and Clemson. They had this kid's film completely broken down with notes (on paper). And they went over these notes with the recruit in person, telling them exactly what they like/dislike about their ability and where he fits into their scheme.

I'm told Miami isn't doing the little things to make kids feel wanted. And I ain't talking about bags. I won't even go there, cause I won't repeat what I was told regarding that. It's other things, man. Hospitality type ****. Even the way they facetime the kids and little stuff like that. The whole coaching staff playing catch with the prospects brothers and family members. Little things.

I was also told that their communication tailors off sometimes once they have a kid committed. (might explain some of the decommits)

This kid never felt wanted from Miami like he did from the other big time programs. And this particular kid loves The U.
That's a problem, no matter what way you slice it. Making them feel wanted/loved/etc is part of the process. That's your main **** job as a recruiter. LOL

Now I know some of you are gonna argue this, mostly cause you don't wanna hear it. But that's the point-of-view from someone who's involved in the process. It's a non-bias opinion from someone who has interacted with dozens of football staffs.

Based on what you and the other blue chip ratio thread is saying, I might as well cancel my season tickets now and wait for Manolo to get canned after year one. Then we can start another round of BRING BACK BUTCH circle jerk.

 

[SinCityCane]

Objectively speaking, this was a concern about Manny before he became HC, & in sequence, our percentage of blue chips (composite 4 or 5 stars) has fallen since he took over. The UM-commit-instant-ratings-drop is real, & granted, the class isn't complete, but maybe the staff should hold off with loading up on 3 stars until after the uncommitted big time recruits have watched us play under a new offense - which should be a gamechanger. You don't know who'll want to be a Cane when we're blasting teams left & right. In any case, I think Manny's clever enough to find out what needs to be done & make the necessary changes going forward if he realizes there's a problem, which there may not be, because on the flipside, we're coming off an ugly 7-6 season, which could justify a recruiting dip, & his success in the portal could be considered a form of recruiting in itself.

 

[DTP]

A lot of you guys have some crazy expectations coming off a 7-6 season. And it's not just one 7-6 season. This has been an 7-6 program for 15 years. Our recruiting rankings, no matter how bad you might think they are far outweigh our actual, on-field rankings.

 

[Elijah's Biggest Fan]

I spoke to the father of a high ranked recruit a few days ago and didn't like what I heard regarding our recruiting.

For a lack of better words it seems like amateur hour compared to the way other big programs recruit. There's a lack of detail with out recruiting.
I can't go into too much detail without exposing who the kid is, but everything he said made perfect sense. Look at our staff. Who the **** has ever recruited on a high level, at a big program?

Other schools have shown much more detail when recruiting this particular prospect, particularly Auburn, Georgia, Bama and Clemson. They had this kid's film completely broken down with notes (on paper). And they went over these notes with the recruit in person, telling them exactly what they like/dislike about their ability and where he fits into their scheme.

I'm told Miami isn't doing the little things to make kids feel wanted. And I ain't talking about bags. I won't even go there, cause I won't repeat what I was told regarding that. It's other things, man. Hospitality type ****. Even the way they facetime the kids and little stuff like that. The whole coaching staff playing catch with the prospects brothers and family members. Little things.

I was also told that their communication tailors off sometimes once they have a kid committed. (might explain some of the decommits)

This kid never felt wanted from Miami like he did from the other big time programs. And this particular kid loves The U.
That's a problem, no matter what way you slice it. Making them feel wanted/loved/etc is part of the process. That's your main **** job as a recruiter. LOL

Now I know some of you are gonna argue this, mostly cause you don't wanna hear it. But that's the point-of-view from someone who's involved in the process. It's a non-bias opinion from someone who has interacted with dozens of football staffs.

I'm not totally disagreeing with you (so don't come for me) but our recruiting process with UM has been great, even after he decommitted they were still in communication with him. They have offered to break down his film and go over it with him but he just hasn't made it there to do that. There are several things that Stroud has said that helped with recruiting US (not just Elijah) that he didn't have to say and he's still in contact. ANY questions or concerns we may have are answered and addressed immediately, before, during and even now. Whenever we are on campus there is someone on staff with us the whole time. Not talking about recruiting but just showing interest in getting to know our son and us on another level but also sharing things about themselves. If they need to improve on anything it may be the consistent communication with parents. Some colleges group text us with Elijah every morning. Some sent handwritten letters addressed to us individually and also to Elijah. Make it a weekly thing if necessary. That being said they did all of that but we still ended up here because at the end of the day it's what our son wants. Also parents have to be approachable! Noone wants to talk to grumpy, complaining parents. We have to remember that we are a part of the recruiting process and can potentially push a college away. When they sign our boys for the next 3-4 years, they're also signing us. I had a coach (not from UM) Thank us for being easy to talk to. He said you wouldn't believe how hard it is to connect with parents. Yes colleges want your kid to play for them but we as parents also gotta be grateful that they are being offered a 250,000 (not sure exact amount) scholarship! That alone should humble the kids and parents!