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Manny playing chess......cat's about to come out the bag.....

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Gooner#44 said:
You are not wrong but I can understand some getting a bit anxious when other schools are 15+ at this point and 75% of the Top 100s have verballed (I know it is not binding) so I can get some questions. I don't really care but this ultimately needs to be a Top 15 class minimum off average player rating, not overall
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including the portal it should be a top 8
 
Cribby said:
Exactly.

This is why I said ” most of our eventual commits are silents “. There’s a time and a place for them to commit. When I cribbystall balled LT to miami and pretty much said the weekend he'd commit a month off , you don’t think that meant he was already in? There’s a method to the madness.
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I look at it this way. If you announce 15 guys committing all at one time, you basically lose momentum for the remainder of the class. Keeping people interested is important. You do that by finding a way for there to routinely be news.
 
Mikesmith29150 said:
I feel the reason UF paid Marshall soo much was to Kill our momentum at that time. If I remember correctly we was looking good for his teammate that safety, and also that one DE Sapp I think his name was.
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I agree 100%. They had no choice and had to stop the bleeding. Even their delusional fans were taking notice.
 
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TimeBum said:
Risking the loss of a little bit of money is just the cost of doing business. Sure, bag schools would be a little angry at the kid who gets his beak wet and still goes to another school, but for every one of those rare birds they get plenty who get sucked in wanting more. Kid takes his McDonalds bag with 3 grand and goes elsewhere? Every bag school is throwing a few thousand at the top recruits. It's pennies for those multimillionaire boosters. However, if a kid takes 250 large and then still goes to another school, they aren't going to let that slide. It's not just the cash, it's the new jobs for parents, cars, etc that come as part and parcel of the deal. There are all sorts of ways to put pressure on kids and make their lives miserable and lots of ways to play dirty. Think of all the attorneys who are UF law grads and boosters. Kid lives in an apartment complex? Building owner gets threatened with a big lawsuit over some frivolous matter unless he has a conversation with some particular renters about returning the money. Or maybe the UF boosters make sure their good friends on the local school board investigate and fire the kid's HC. Remember, these dirty head coaches are also getting their salary supplemented for pushing recruits to certain schools and ensuring they stick to their commitments- they want that gravy train to keep running (say Marshall got 250k, his HC/handler might have received 10% of that amount as a handling fee). If the kid takes a couple hundred grand and then backs out of his commitment, every bag school will know they can't trust his handler/coach and he won't be getting any more financial incentives. The coaches aren't going to let a single recruit ruin it for them and they will do everything in their power to make sure the kid sticks.

Anyways, the bag schools wouldn't drop that kind of money unless they had some assurances that it's a done deal. As some of the folks on this board with insider knowledge (I'm not one of them) said at the time, at the last minute UF offered Marshall so much that it made Bama do a double-take and say, "Holy **** that's a lot of money."
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I think you got the question entirely backwards. If he committed to Miami and two weeks later UF offers $250k, what’s to stop him from flipping to UF at that time. This was in August (IIRC), not on signing day. But to your point, as I understand it, a lot of schools give a “down payment” up front and then the bulk either on signing or enrolling. It’s all in the past now - he’s in Gainesville to get his good luck kiss from Megan and we have TRob about to bring in a stacked CB class.
 
No issue with silent commits, if it’s by mutual agreement. Maybe the kid wants to wait, maybe Manny does if he’s trying to land another kid at the same position. Same rule applies though, if the silent kid visits other schools, he’s not committed.
 
mirasuegui said:
I think because of Manny's own rule, we take your commitment, and you are not allow to visit : so they take a silent and let the cat go on visits, and everyone saves face :
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I feel this is a horrible position. Thanks for the silent commit, but go on full-expense trips to UGA, FSU, UF, etc. and listen to them sh*t-talk us, grease your palms, and then dip? If you're committed, you're committed - simple as that. If you want to take visits then come back and actually commit when you're ready or hit the bricks pal.
 
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Mikesmith29150 said:
I feel the reason UF paid Marshall soo much was to Kill our momentum at that time. If I remember correctly we was looking good for his teammate that safety, and also that one DE Sapp I think his name was.
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yes i believe marshall was a done deal to UF then the UF staff told him to troll us and get some momentum their way because i remember jobs saying something about momentum and quoting cooney on twitter
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
I think with some of them, it’s a simple as wanting to make a splash on signing day.

They want “that moment“.

I don’t have a 17-year-old brain so I can’t explain it from a personal perspective. But I think that’s partially what’s going on with some of these recruits.
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I think we all have PTSD from NSD moments...we have an EXTREMELY low hit rate on kids committing to us on NSD when the hats are on the table
 
Cribby said:
Exactly.

This is why I said ” most of our eventual commits are silents “. There’s a time and a place for them to commit. When I cribbystall balled LT to miami and pretty much said the weekend he'd commit a month off , you don’t think that meant he was already in? There’s a method to the madness.
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Any cribbystall balling going on this cycle?
 
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Listen;

Many of us have been fans for a while. Let me remind of u of a cautionary tale of “silents”

www.canesinsight.com

Couple of Silents?

CMR said on the Joe Rose show mentioned today that we have a couple of silent commits right now. Nunn and...?
www.canesinsight.com www.canesinsight.com

It’s funny how we forget things. Silents mean chit.

I can tell u I know of a kid who was 100% committed to USC, silently, from a pipeline school….and then, the 2018 season happened for USC. “Inexplicably” the young man committed to another school, much to the chagrin of SC.

Silents mean chit. There is literally no benefit of a silent. If anyone who knows recruiting think that a kid who’s silent = keeping the rivals off the scent, U’re fooling urself. These lil jits can’t hold water in the age of social media, and the rivals don’t give af if a kid is committed or not.

I will never be a fan of silent commits. That’s not chess. Richt did that chit.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Listen;

Many of us have been fans for a while. Let me remind of u of a cautionary tale of “silents”

www.canesinsight.com

Couple of Silents?

CMR said on the Joe Rose show mentioned today that we have a couple of silent commits right now. Nunn and...?
www.canesinsight.com www.canesinsight.com

It’s funny how we forget things. Silents mean chit.

I can tell u I know of a kid who was 100% committed to USC, silently, from a pipeline school….and then, the 2018 season happened for USC. “Inexplicably” the young man committed to another school, much to the chagrin of SC.

Silents mean chit. There is literally no benefit of a silent. If anyone who knows recruiting think that a kid who’s silent = keeping the rivals off the scent, U’re fooling urself. These lil jits can’t hold water in the age of social media, and the rivals don’t give af if a kid is committed or not.

I will never be a fan of silent commits. That’s not chess. Richt did that chit.
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You can say the same about a public one. Only difference fans can celebrate a public commit. Ole Miss won’t stop calling and texting Rogers unless the kid says explicitly that he wants them to stop.

We just saw with Lee who publicly committed and publicly shut it down that none of it matters. He explained it away by saying this is my life and I got make the best decision or I’m just having fun. Really depended on the day for him. Then he’d post himself in a full Miami uniform like everything was good

The recruit determines if it means something. Leonard Taylor was a silent for some time. He chose a day he wanted to go public and he did. Al Blades wanted to go public on father’s day if I remember that correctly.

Bowden had kids hold off as a strategy. Wasting the time of his rivals and to appear like a great closer.
 
Verbal commitment mean just as little as silent ones. None of them mean a single thing until the LOI is signed. In today’s game, being “committed” just means you favor one school right at this moment but are free to change your mind whenever you feel it.
 
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