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TheOriginalCane said:
Yeah, it's hilarious.

Brohm really showed everyone. "Talk about money, we'll kick you off the team". Good for him, what a tough guy, I'm sure Brohm has never asked for a raise in his entire life.
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Guy is a quality game day coach. He was never an understudy at a Top 10 recruiting operation though. I'm not sure he has what it takes to compete at this level in talent acquisition.
 
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Tony4Canes said:
Did Beck Portal out of Georgia??
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Obviously not.

I posted an update on Ole Miss adding 2 more productive WR's, then HomeSlice said that the SEC is going to be interesting to watch this season & that UGA will dominate, but asked other than them who else in the SEC should be good.

I then replied that UGA is not going to dominate because without Brock Bowers they're not going to be as effective on Offense.

Then Cway replied that Carson Beck & the run game will still make them formidable...

Then I replied that Carson Beck is the most overrated QB in all of CFB & people who think Beck is a great QB couldn't/can't believe that I would say such a thing.
 
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Memnon said:
Based on what?
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Arm strength considerably better than Fromm or Bennett. NFL size and an athlete who could have played college baseball. UGA probably had less talent at skill positions last season than any during their run. As good as he was, Bowers was banged up, missed games and not the same threat he had been for Bennett.
No one fancies Beck as the second coming of Mahomes, but likely to be one of the top QBs in the draft and will have an NFL career.
Interesting debate: who goes higher in the draft- Beck or Cam Ward? And who eventually fares better in the NFL?
 
bacane said:
Arm strength considerably better than Fromm or Bennett. NFL size and an athlete who could have played college baseball. UGA probably had less talent at skill positions last season than any during their run. As good as he was, Bowers was banged up, missed games and not the same threat he had been for Bennett.
No one fancies Beck as the second coming of Mahomes, but likely to be one of the top QBs in the draft and will have an NFL career.
Interesting debate: who goes higher in the draft- Beck or Cam Ward? And who eventually fares better in the NFL?
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UGA's talent was pretty much the same in 2023 as it was in 2022. Both Beck & Bennett played with Bowers, McConkey & Donovan Edwards, along with the 2 OL's who were drafted this season.

- In 2022, Bennett threw for 4,127yds 27TD's & 7INT's, with Bowers & McConkey as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 829yds
- 2023, Beck threw for 3,941yds 24TD's & 6INT's, with Bowers & Lovett as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 881yds

The drastic difference in the skill players merely a matter of distribution. Bennett threw it more to the RB's, while Beck threw it more to the other WR's, Lovett cut into the target-share & got more passes thrown to him. But in both situations, the top Receiver for both QB's was Bowers, with either McConkey or Lovett being the 2nd option. The 3rd & 4th WR's for both QB's barely caught 30+, so it's not as if Bennett was slinging it everywhere to a bunch of different skill players that Beck didn't have. In fact, Beck threw it to more WR's than Bennett & had relatively the same numbers.

As far as his arm strength, I don't see it, but we'll just see how that goes once he gets to the league. I remember people swearing that Mac Jones had great arm strength & then he got to the league & all of the sudden it was the total opposite.

As far as his NFL projection, of course he's going to be drafted high, I'm not denying that. But simply because he's going to be drafted in the 1st round that doesn't means anything, the majority of 1st round QB's are busts anyway, but even more importantly GM's overdraft QB's every single year. Daniel Jones was drafted with the 6th pick in the draft, does anybody think Daniel Jones is a good QB? Has he at all played up to his draft spot?

He could be drafted as the 1st pick next year & I'd take that bet with anybody that he ends up being a bust in his first 4 years.

Sure he'll be drafted higher than Cam, but I'm taking Cam all day & twice on Sunday to have a much better career than Beck.
 
Memnon said:
UGA's talent was pretty much the same in 2023 as it was in 2022. Both Beck & Bennett played with Bowers, McConkey & Donovan Edwards, along with the 2 OL's who were drafted this season.

- In 2022, Bennett threw for 4,127yds 27TD's & 7INT's, with Bowers & McConkey as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 829yds
- 2023, Beck threw for 3,941yds 24TD's & 6INT's, with Bowers & Lovett as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 881yds

The drastic difference in the skill players merely a matter of distribution. Bennett threw it more to the RB's, while Beck threw it more to the other WR's, Lovett cut into the target-share & got more passes thrown to him. But in both situations, the top Receiver for both QB's was Bowers, with either McConkey or Lovett being the 2nd option. The 3rd & 4th WR's for both QB's barely caught 30+, so it's not as if Bennett was slinging it everywhere to a bunch of different skill players that Beck didn't have. In fact, Beck threw it to more WR's than Bennett & had relatively the same numbers.

As far as his arm strength, I don't see it, but we'll just see how that goes once he gets to the league. I remember people swearing that Mac Jones had great arm strength & then he got to the league & all of the sudden it was the total opposite.

As far as his NFL projection, of course he's going to be drafted high, I'm not denying that. But simply because he's going to be drafted in the 1st round that doesn't means anything, the majority of 1st round QB's are busts anyway, but even more importantly GM's overdraft QB's every single year. Daniel Jones was drafted with the 6th pick in the draft, does anybody think Daniel Jones is a good QB? Has he at all played up to his draft spot?

He could be drafted as the 1st pick next year & I'd take that bet with anybody that he ends up being a bust in his first 4 years.

Sure he'll be drafted higher than Cam, but I'm taking Cam all day & twice on Sunday to have a much better career than Beck.
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Watched Mac since pop Warner. Arm strength was NEVER his thing. He was always a manager. In pop Warner he had the rep as a bit of a crybaby, but his game was centered around a sort of rehearsed moxie that tended to work more often than not through high school and college. Him and beck are not the same QB. My question with Beck is his toughness.

I do agree that Cam has a higher NFL ceiling, but I just don’t agree with the original statement of Beck not having the arm.
 
Memnon said:
UGA's talent was pretty much the same in 2023 as it was in 2022. Both Beck & Bennett played with Bowers, McConkey & Donovan Edwards, along with the 2 OL's who were drafted this season.

- In 2022, Bennett threw for 4,127yds 27TD's & 7INT's, with Bowers & McConkey as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 829yds
- 2023, Beck threw for 3,941yds 24TD's & 6INT's, with Bowers & Lovett as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 881yds

The drastic difference in the skill players merely a matter of distribution. Bennett threw it more to the RB's, while Beck threw it more to the other WR's, Lovett cut into the target-share & got more passes thrown to him. But in both situations, the top Receiver for both QB's was Bowers, with either McConkey or Lovett being the 2nd option. The 3rd & 4th WR's for both QB's barely caught 30+, so it's not as if Bennett was slinging it everywhere to a bunch of different skill players that Beck didn't have. In fact, Beck threw it to more WR's than Bennett & had relatively the same numbers.

As far as his arm strength, I don't see it, but we'll just see how that goes once he gets to the league. I remember people swearing that Mac Jones had great arm strength & then he got to the league & all of the sudden it was the total opposite.

As far as his NFL projection, of course he's going to be drafted high, I'm not denying that. But simply because he's going to be drafted in the 1st round that doesn't means anything, the majority of 1st round QB's are busts anyway, but even more importantly GM's overdraft QB's every single year. Daniel Jones was drafted with the 6th pick in the draft, does anybody think Daniel Jones is a good QB? Has he at all played up to his draft spot?

He could be drafted as the 1st pick next year & I'd take that bet with anybody that he ends up being a bust in his first 4 years.

Sure he'll be drafted higher than Cam, but I'm taking Cam all day & twice on Sunday to have a much better career than Beck.
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Brooks Austin broke down the difference between 2022 and 2023 basically coming down to red zone offense getting worse. I dont recall what the stats are but im pretty sure he said UGA was top 5 in every single offensive team category except for Red Zone Offense.

In 2022 they were 1st in red zone offense while in 2023 they were 19th. He basically said that was the difference in the seasons. If they would have gotten their red zone offense fixed he said they probably go on to win it all again and expect to be much better this year with Lovett, RaRa 2nd year in the offense and now Colby young being a red zone threat. Well see if Bobo figures it out


 
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Memnon said:
Obviously not.

I posted an update on Ole Miss adding 2 more productive WR's, then HomeSlice said that the SEC is going to be interesting to watch this season & that UGA will dominate, but asked other than them who else in the SEC should be good.

I then replied that UGA is not going to dominate because without Brock Bowers they're not going to be as effective on Offense.

Then Cway replied that Carson Beck & the run game will still make them formidable...

Then I replied that Carson Beck is the most overrated QB in all of CFB & people who think Beck is a great QB couldn't/can't believe that I would say such a thing.
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Let’s see that again in super slow mode…

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Memnon said:
UGA's talent was pretty much the same in 2023 as it was in 2022. Both Beck & Bennett played with Bowers, McConkey & Donovan Edwards, along with the 2 OL's who were drafted this season.

- In 2022, Bennett threw for 4,127yds 27TD's & 7INT's, with Bowers & McConkey as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 829yds
- 2023, Beck threw for 3,941yds 24TD's & 6INT's, with Bowers & Lovett as his leading WR's.
The leading RB rushed for 881yds

The drastic difference in the skill players merely a matter of distribution. Bennett threw it more to the RB's, while Beck threw it more to the other WR's, Lovett cut into the target-share & got more passes thrown to him. But in both situations, the top Receiver for both QB's was Bowers, with either McConkey or Lovett being the 2nd option. The 3rd & 4th WR's for both QB's barely caught 30+, so it's not as if Bennett was slinging it everywhere to a bunch of different skill players that Beck didn't have. In fact, Beck threw it to more WR's than Bennett & had relatively the same numbers.

As far as his arm strength, I don't see it, but we'll just see how that goes once he gets to the league. I remember people swearing that Mac Jones had great arm strength & then he got to the league & all of the sudden it was the total opposite.

As far as his NFL projection, of course he's going to be drafted high, I'm not denying that. But simply because he's going to be drafted in the 1st round that doesn't means anything, the majority of 1st round QB's are busts anyway, but even more importantly GM's overdraft QB's every single year. Daniel Jones was drafted with the 6th pick in the draft, does anybody think Daniel Jones is a good QB? Has he at all played up to his draft spot?

He could be drafted as the 1st pick next year & I'd take that bet with anybody that he ends up being a bust in his first 4 years.

Sure he'll be drafted higher than Cam, but I'm taking Cam all day & twice on Sunday to have a much better career than Beck.
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No need belaboring this, but throwing out stats can be misleading. Both Beck’s leading receivers Bowers and McConkey missed considerable game time as well as played hurt. Yeah, on paper two OLs were drafted, but Mims was drafted on physical traits and potential. Boom or bust prospect who started a handful of games and left some of them injured.
Logic on player evaluations fails to make sense. Or maybe simply know more than NFL talent evaluators and front offices. Let’s see, suggest Beck could be the first pick in draft and acknowledge he’ll be drafted higher than Cam, yet taking Cam all day and twice on Sunday.
We’re all good by the way.
Longtime Canes fan and hope you’re right about Cam.
 
bacane said:
Arm strength considerably better than Fromm or Bennett. NFL size and an athlete who could have played college baseball. UGA probably had less talent at skill positions last season than any during their run. As good as he was, Bowers was banged up, missed games and not the same threat he had been for Bennett.
No one fancies Beck as the second coming of Mahomes, but likely to be one of the top QBs in the draft and will have an NFL career.
Interesting debate: who goes higher in the draft- Beck or Cam Ward? And who eventually fares better in the NFL?
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Cam Ward
 
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By no means did I watch a lot of UGA last year, but I think people who only saw Beck light up fsu in the bowl game thought he was the second coming. When I did watch him during the season he was pretty good. Didn't look like he was going to set any type of records, but he'll be a plenty good enough for them to win every game. Not dominate though
 
bacane said:
No need belaboring this, but throwing out stats can be misleading. Both Beck’s leading receivers Bowers and McConkey missed considerable game time as well as played hurt. Yeah, on paper two OLs were drafted, but Mims was drafted on physical traits and potential. Boom or bust prospect who started a handful of games and left some of them injured.
Logic on player evaluations fails to make sense. Or maybe simply know more than NFL talent evaluators and front offices. Let’s see, suggest Beck could be the first pick in draft and acknowledge he’ll be drafted higher than Cam, yet taking Cam all day and twice on Sunday.
We’re all good by the way.
Longtime Canes fan and hope you’re right about Cam.
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You know how many QB's who get drafted in the top 5 that end up as busts?

The numbers is higher than most would realize. So the point is, just because he may get drafted high doesn't really mean anything.

Pat Mahomes wasn't the #1 pick in his draft, yet he's arguably the greatest QB of All-Time already.
 
Memnon said:
You know how many QB's who get drafted in the top 5 that end up as busts?

The numbers is higher than most would realize. So the point is, just because he may get drafted high doesn't really mean anything.

Pat Mahomes wasn't the #1 pick in his draft, yet he's arguably the greatest QB of All-Time already.
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Memnon said:
You know how many QB's who get drafted in the top 5 that end up as busts?

The numbers is higher than most would realize. So the point is, just because he may get drafted high doesn't really mean anything.

Pat Mahomes wasn't the #1 pick in his draft, yet he's arguably the greatest QB of All-Time already.
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The draft obviously isn’t without risk. Point is you claim to know more than NFL evaluators, acknowledging Beck will be drafted higher but saying Cam is the better NFL talent. Again, hope you’re right - not just in NFL but this fall.
 
bacane said:
The draft obviously isn’t without risk. Point is you claim to know more than NFL evaluators, acknowledging Beck will be drafted higher but saying Cam is the better NFL talent. Again, hope you’re right - not just in NFL but this fall.
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I don't claim to know more than NFL evaluators, I never said that.

You're missing the point.

Again, the majority of top QB's in the drafted in the 1st round, especially in the top 5, end up as busts. 64% is the actual rate. So what does that tell you?
 
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