Lets give Al a break

[Consigliere]

I guess randy had nothing to with the development of those great defenses that had more first rounders than anyone over a 4-5 year span huh, he just said go play huh...

Randy > Miami = Fake Fan

Consistent though

 

[TP800]

Duke was ALWAYS coming to Miami. Donna could have been the coach, and he would have come.

Maybe, but AG pulled kids from schools your boy never recruited.

Lol YOU'RE SAYING Shannon's my boy because I pointed out Duke was ALWAYS coming? I don't give a **** about Shannon, he's WAY in the past. Ol boy washed out. AG SHOULD be pulling TOP kids from Dade/Broward schools. That's part of coaching at UM.

 

[jwayne]

Really?

The only thing that is questionable is his gameday management and beating inferior teams.

The guy can recruit with the best of 'em.

Let's wait and see. I don't want to turn this into a Shannon vs him thread, but at this point in their tenures, Shannon had already pulled the #1 class in the nation and we know how his tenure turned out. We really have no clue about him.

AG pulled Duke, Bush, and Howard with the NCAA poo cloud lingering.

AG pulled kids from Central, Miramar, and Southridge.

Artie Burns was committed to Alabama at one point.

Recruiting is not a weakness for the man.

Duke had been committed prior to him coming here but the other guys that you pointed out are true. Without bringing his name up because this thread has turned into a race war, we have seen a guy fail after pulling in the #1 recruiting class in the nation and in 2 different years end up with arguably the #1 recruit in the entire country that were out of state kids.

I'm not saying Golden sucks by any means but I don't think its a given at this point that he is a sure thing as a lock down recruiter either. We shall see. Wednesday will tell us a lot IMO

That #1 2008 class goes down as potentially the biggest disaster in CFB history. No talent development - More busts then a porno shoot (discussed at length on this site). Golden hasn't recruited those types of "paper" classes YET, however he has shown himself to be light years beyond Shannon in the development and CEO department.

As far as Shannon goes, he is now a position coach. Not a coordinator, a position coach. That should tell you all you need to know about his perception among the CFB world. Not to mention all the bridges he burned around the S. Fl high schools....

Plus I don't remember schools trying to pull RS from the U whereas Golden had Wisky, Tenn and UCLA offers or inquiries.

 

[Vb1085]

No fake fan don't go on facts. I have been to games, my sister ran track at UM but I just call it by the facts and the facts are golden has a lot of work to do period...

 

[Fzac75]

I guess randy had nothing to with the development of those great defenses that had more first rounders than anyone over a 4-5 year span huh, he just said go play huh...

Im not debating what he did as D Coordinator, I thought he was a great hire at the time, based on his job as coordinator, based on his history, this has to do with the fact of what occurred in his 4 years as head coach.

 

[aintnothangbutacane]

Let's wait and see. I don't want to turn this into a Shannon vs him thread, but at this point in their tenures, Shannon had already pulled the #1 class in the nation and we know how his tenure turned out. We really have no clue about him.

AG pulled Duke, Bush, and Howard with the NCAA poo cloud lingering.

AG pulled kids from Central, Miramar, and Southridge.

Artie Burns was committed to Alabama at one point.

Recruiting is not a weakness for the man.

Duke had been committed prior to him coming here but the other guys that you pointed out are true. Without bringing his name up because this thread has turned into a race war, we have seen a guy fail after pulling in the #1 recruiting class in the nation and in 2 different years end up with arguably the #1 recruit in the entire country that were out of state kids.

I'm not saying Golden sucks by any means but I don't think its a given at this point that he is a sure thing as a lock down recruiter either. We shall see. Wednesday will tell us a lot IMO

That #1 2008 class goes down as potentially the biggest disaster in CFB history. No talent development - More busts then a porno shoot (discussed at length on this site). Golden hasn't recruited those types of "paper" classes YET, however he has shown himself to be light years beyond Shannon in the development and CEO department.

As far as Shannon goes, he is now a position coach. Not a coordinator, a position coach. That should tell you all you need to know about his perception among the CFB world. Not to mention all the bridges he burned around the S. Fl high schools....

Plus I don't remember schools trying to pull RS from the U whereas Golden had Wisky, Tenn and UCLA offers or inquiries.

Don;t associate my point with the rest of the shannon v golden circle jerk in this thread

 

[Consigliere]

No fake fan don't go on facts. I have been to games, my sister ran track at UM but I just call it by the facts and the facts are golden has a lot of work to do period...

Admit this is a troll man, my sister ran track at UM....great stuff.

 

[deleted3746]

Duke was ALWAYS coming to Miami. Donna could have been the coach, and he would have come.

Maybe, but AG pulled kids from schools your boy never recruited.

Lol YOU'RE SAYING Shannon's my boy because I pointed out Duke was ALWAYS coming? I don't give a **** about Shannon, he's WAY in the past. Ol boy washed out. AG SHOULD be pulling TOP kids from Dade/Broward schools. That's part of coaching at UM.

He is pulling top kids from S FL.

 

[jerzeycane]

jeez...grassy again

 

[Vb1085]

I have more connection to the U than you do but because I'm not wearing my al golden goggles I'm a troll, that's just laughable. Lets see if you will be at the spring game and real games or if you will just be on here kissing goldens balls lol.

 

[Consigliere]

I have more connection to the U than you do but because I'm not wearing my al golden goggles I'm a troll, that's just laughable. Lets see if you will be at the spring game and real games or if you will just be on here kissing goldens balls lol.

Troll I went to UM. I don't know why you gloat about your sister running track for them. That means less than nothing and makes you go further into Troll land.

 

[Vb1085]

Have you sat and talked to any players on this team, I have and that's a fact lol!!!

 

[Consigliere]

Have you sat and talked to any players on this team, I have and that's a fact lol!!!

What is that extra chromosome like?

 

[deleted3746]

Have you sat and talked to any players on this team, I have and that's a fact lol!!!

Lulz

 

[Cash]

Have you sat and talked to any players on this team, I have and that's a fact lol!!!

Why are you so angry man? Hang it up for the night & come back tomorrow with a cool head.

 

[miamimike]

Hey Cash any feedback from earlier? Your source was on flight and you had a call in. Good or bad.

 

[Cash]

Hey Cash any feedback from earlier? Your source was on flight and you had a call in. Good or bad.

Sent two text messages & not a **** thing... I'm guessing he's got nothing new too. I'm gonna play it as he's not coming until I hear otherwise

 

[lauderdaleballer]

I guess Al and Shannon are judged on different scales. Al can do no wrong and Shannon could do no right huh.

Al has had a history of making the right moves and building up a program in Temple, where college football had gone to die before he showed up, not to mention Al has had glowing reviews and support from the same former players who stood by Shannon at first. While Shannon on the other hand, was given a chance to fix the program he played for, he coached for, he learned from, and new exactly what it took to win here and failed miserably. Al has yet to show that he has made a bad move, now he is human and will make mistakes, but he hasn't given reason to worry. Shannon on the other hand was given an opportunity and failed to the very end. So yes there are different scales, and well earned scales based on history. Not sure what you are trying to insinuate

SN: Al can also say he put a player in the SB with Bernard Pierce doing work for the ravens. and he did that S*** at LOWLY TEMPLE. That's saying alot as Tommy Streeter is broke as well as Damien Berry. BOTH cane alum.

Too be fair Shannon can say he turned a wideout into a Super Bowl winning starting Corner back Shields(he made plays during his lone season at corner back)... VB is right, for some reason when all this was being said about Shannon some canes fans killed him... i mean there is no other coach in Dade more respected than Ice but now he's public enemy number 1... I have seen posters call him a racists with no basis to that at all... I mean we took BS articles that contradicted everything in it about RS neglecting schools and ate it up but now the most revered coach in Dade at the moment make some comments and we throw it out the window... Come on now that is a bit unfair... Not blaming Al at all but VP has a point...

And before anyone attempts to call me out on something, I be the first to say that I have been consistent with my point on high school relations... I said these coaches are egotistical fools... The complained when RS was here, they complained when Coker was and they did the same with Butch... why do we all assume that they would change now... I like Harris he has done a lot for his athletes... A lot of these young men would not be receiving a college degree if it wasn't for Ice... I don't agree with how he handled things but he has done more right than wrong in my book...

 

[miamimike]

Thanks. Hope Al can flip em but not feeling it. I think so much crap has surrounded us for so long we expect the worse. If something doesn't go our way it hits us all harder than it might otherwise. I am all in on Coach Golden. Complete trust n faith. Amazing how many fans don't realize what we have in him.

 

[Cash]

I'd agree except i'm not sure what VB's point is... This race card has been pulled for what reason? Because Golden is white & Randy is black? You might care but I sure as **** don't.

Fact is randy is a **** good DC, but he's a f'ing horrible HC. The roster management was horrible, the player development was horrible. Shields was one of a few who got by on pure talent. He didn't even know how to watch film when he got to Green Bay. These are facts. I backed Randy till it was down right obvious he was hurting the program.

Golden deserves the same. And by the way Ice f#cked up by going to Manny with this story before having all the facts & blowing this **** up.

Those are facts, no race card needed